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    yes,

    number 1 and number 2 needs take priority over all else!
    I have also learned that one should

    take those free sample packets of tissue that stores hand out as promotional giveaways cuz there ain't no TP in the

    public restrooms...
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    This discussion is very

    illuminating for us westerners too. Its all-important to pay attention to and recognize the behavior around us.

    This is something I've had to learn.

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    My SoE is the scented one and

    gives me a dizzy lighthead. I will try increasing the dose as you suggested.

    Oh well, no TP in the public

    restrooms. It's a fact that I learned the easy way

    "hey, do you have a tp?". I replied, "sorry, I don't

    have one".

    I would suggest to use the restroom in dpt store and try not to go to the one in train station.

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    ah no tp in restrooms, I

    totally forgot about that one lol.

    kevio I recommend that you get the unscented soe so you can up the dosage

    without having to worry about the scent. (and apply it on back of your neck and arms if you feel dizzy)

    I used

    scented soe when I was working in a Japanese restaurant and all the waitresses could detect soe's scent when I had

    it on. they didn't dislike the smell or anything but I didn't want to give people a reason to suspect I might to

    wearing 'something'.

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    Thanks for the advice. I will do

    just that. Btw, how was the reactions from those waitresses?

    Today, I tried a double sized dose plus 4 dabs of

    Edge. And applied a packet of SoE after 5 hours of first application.

    But no unusual results occurred except the

    mood lifting. However, I understand that it can be the placebo effect.

    Special note: no reaction from my ex-gf as

    well.... *sigh*

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    as far as the reactions

    from the waitresses go, soe didn't really enter into the picture much cuz just for one I couldn't use it too much

    in a restaurant setting. (no strong scents allowed or it'll interfere with customer's appetite or the smell of the

    food)

    and two, me and the waitresses were already working closely together and talk quite a bit so there was no

    need to use -nol products to 'open them up' so to speak.

    besides, Edge and NPA alone was enough to get me some

    of the best hits I ever experienced. this is why I rank it so high on the product list, in my opinion no other

    product even comes close in terms of raw sexual hits. (and many users agree too)

    my first day working in the

    restaurant, still in training period and the supervisor - a 29 tall and slim sexy Japanese lady, slapped my ass and

    took me to the back of the storage room and wanted me to massage her shoulders.

    most of the waitresses were

    Japanese, some Thai and some Chinese. I got hits from ALL of them. no kidding here, ALL of them. young, old,

    middle age, engaged, had bfs, married, didn't matter, they all freaking loved me. (it helped there were only a

    couple of male employees working there, 3 to 1 female to male ratio)


    my manager liked me so much she gave me a

    $6 raise in my wage in the first 2 month. (big deal back then)
    everytime I worked, I got hugs and touches from

    the waitresses and they invited me to their house parties and whatnot. there was this one Thai waitress studying

    for her masters who had REALLY nice breats for an Asian girl(c cup) and the first day I worked with her she grabbed

    my arm with both her hands like she would with a bf and I could feel her boobs squeezing the back of my arm.



    sometimes if I talk with a particular waitress too long the other waitresses would come up to me later and

    indirectly ask me if I liked her or something. other times I'd come into work with a hickie on my neck from my gf

    and that always sent the waitresses into a frenzy. they'd ask to look at the hickie and then after seeing it, run

    away screaming like a groupie girl at a concert.

    a couple of the waitresses actually called me up on their own to

    ask me out on a date, this only happened twice tho.

    all this from Edge sandlewood and NPA alone. soe wasn't

    released by LS till later.

    Edge/NPA is the KING, hands down.

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    That's some nice experiences you

    have there. I'm now rather blue seeing my ex's hanging out with another guy and treats me like a stranger.

    Damn...

    Anyway, I'll try the Edge and NPA and experiment with my classmates. (It might upset the 'boss' but

    hey, that's ok)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post
    That's some nice experiences you have there. I'm now rather blue seeing my ex's hanging out

    with another guy and treats me like a stranger. Damn...

    Anyway, I'll try the Edge and NPA and experiment with my

    classmates. (It might upset the 'boss' but hey, that's ok)
    hey I feel you bro. sry you feel down.

    you know how the saying goes... 'the best way to get over a girl is to get another one.'

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    Isn't combining Edge and NPA

    redundant? I thought Edge was just less potent NPA. Am I

    wrong?
    Last edited by Tester123; 12-08-2011 at 05:21 PM.

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    yes your right. they are

    exactly the same thing. but for some reason I get better results when I combine them. like I said, it's probably

    just in my head, but I got such huge hits from the 1st time I tried Edge that I didn't want to stop using it just

    cuz there's NPA, so I use both. =)

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    I had a little accident with NPA

    as I tried to get a "drop" from that tiny hole. It just poured out - now 2/3 left. So I applied all of them on my

    exposed areas. Covered it with Edge and another pack of Edge after 6 hours.

    Honestly, I cannot figure out any

    positive result at all. People were just normal. My Chinese classmate was talkative as usual. The Taiwanese lady

    also seemed no different. No ODd on me or the others. I admit that I have been feeling out of place all the day

    though. Really numb-brain...

    Especially of all, no reaction from my ex's.... heck, we work in the same place and

    I have to meet with her anyway.

    What should I do? I still like her but I am no good anymore.

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    you really need to use a

    truckload of -nol products like soe or instant openess/honesty to get good visible results from casual

    acquaintances, NPA alone is not enough.

    I'm surprised you didn't see any OD reactions from so much

    NPA.


    and I think you might want to avoid seeing your ex for a while if you can and let yourself mourn and heal,

    if your too hung up on one girl you won't be able to see much hits cuz you'll come off as desperate and

    unattractive to other girls, they can pick this up about a man really well.

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    I had only a hot shower without

    scrubbing out those mones. Today, I put 6 dabs more Edge and 2 rolls of SoE from ear to ear and reapplied 1 packet

    after 6 hours.

    I felt lightheaded. Not thinking of anything. Too light... Is this the effect of nol?

    No

    effects seen today and/or I need to learn more. But hey I got a lot of EYE CONTACTS when I accidentally got on Woman

    Only train bogey.

    To you guys who are coming to Japan and expect to buy things here. Bring it from your country,

    it's too expensive here. 10k yen for a (fake)leather jacket - about 90 something usd. Good leather jacket will cost

    you 90k yen+.

    Btw, I went to Osaka to take an experiment.

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    you can try applying soe

    behind yr ear and neck and 1 spray of te on spray. cover with yr cologne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post
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    To you

    guys who are coming to Japan and expect to buy things here. Bring it from your country, it's too expensive here.

    10k yen for a (fake)leather jacket - about 90 something usd. Good leather jacket will cost you 90k yen+.


    I would only plan on buying things that I can't get or find otherwise here in the US. Plus my

    physical size would prevent me from finding anything that fit me over there anyway. Except maybe sumo outfits...
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    isn't osaka the business

    district with whole bunch of salaryman walking around?


    I think you'd probably get better feedback if you test

    the mones in shibuya. much more opportunities.

    ear to ear soe is not enough, when I used to apply it, it was

    always the entire 2 arms, chest plus neck. unscented of course, otherwise I'd faint from the smell.

    another

    super important point, this is typically the difference between success and failure with mones, you MUST consciously

    make an effort to behave attractively - even if it's just smiling often, keeping a pleasant air and attitude about

    you and being approachable, it makes a huge difference. if your upset or frustrated that you aren't noticing any

    hits (or pining for your ex!) the mones will exaggerate those feelings to those around you and make things even

    worse.

    I assume you have googled 'the other place', go to their forum and check out the my thread about

    "pheromone cloud stealing and AMOG-alpha male of the group". lots of good input form other users and you can get an

    idea just how important it is to 'act the part'. cuz if you don't, someone else will.

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    Hi, LT. I already read that topic.

    It is indeed interesting.

    Not that Osaka is only a business district but also a huge shopping place. They have

    people with exotic minds and beside, I live near that place. Shibuya is truly a place do to experiment but it's

    just too far.

    I'll do some more experiment and see the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post
    Hi,

    LT. I already read that topic. It is indeed interesting.

    Not that Osaka is only a business district but also a

    huge shopping place. They have people with exotic minds and beside, I live near that place. Shibuya is truly a place

    do to experiment but it's just too far.

    I'll do some more experiment and see the results.
    yeah I

    just noticed you had the 'I still like her' thread up there too. see how everybody from both forums are telling

    you to let her go? maybe there's some truth in it eh?

    what's exotic minds of the people in osaka?

    they are really smart or think outside the box or something? I remember most of the best comedians are from

    osaka.

    did you order unscented chikara yet? you should definitely test that one in shibuya.

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    There are too many types of people

    in that place. Like a city with everything. But I bet that Tokyo is a lot merrier.
    However, I am told by local

    people here that Tokyo has more serious atmosphere.

    Yea, it's not that painful anymore when I think to myself

    what guarantee do I have that she will not do that again. She's cute, well-educated, luxurious in courtesy , fun

    and good rational sense. BUT AS LONG AS I LIVE. There's a chance that I'll meet someone like her

    again.

    I'm 6 year younger than her but her appearance is not far from early 20s.

    Sorry, I had ordered

    something else and ran out of yen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post
    There are

    too many types of people in that place. Like a city with everything. But I bet that Tokyo is a lot merrier.


    However, I am told by local people here that Tokyo has more serious atmosphere.

    Yea, it's not that painful

    anymore when I think to myself what guarantee do I have that she will not do that again. She's cute, well-educated,

    luxurious in courtesy , fun and good rational sense. BUT AS LONG AS I LIVE. There's a chance that I'll meet

    someone like her again.

    I'm 6 year younger than her but her appearance is not far from early 20s.

    Sorry, I

    had ordered something else and ran out of yen.
    Gdluck and all the best. SOE/TE should be yr best combo


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    Default I adore Asian males. Do they detect mones worn on a non-asian woman?

    I always fall for Asian males. All kinds too. I like the tall Korean men

    with their high cheek bones. I like the dark golden skintone of the Chinese males. I love the facial symetry of

    Japanese men. I even fell for a Mongolian just because he was from Mongolia. How could I resist fantasies involving

    snow, mountains and his cute behind to keep me warm during a storm.

    Over time I have managed to get about

    two asian men to turn their heads in my direction and speak. It took a long time. I am talking half a year. Now one

    of those guys could be classified as the president of my fan club and we exchange gifts at Christmas.

    I

    want to know if mones work on Asian men. I don't want to slap some on and wonder if they think that I am a stink

    bomb.

    Any advice from the Asian males on this thread would be great.

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    Advices from LT should be more

    useful than mine. But from what I experienced. Most Caucasian females smell good already. I think it's about DNA

    matching process.

    Personal preference plays a big part but eventually it's about personality. I like people of

    same nationality but dated many lovely aussies. (ratio 1:20, lol)

    My country siblings are too annoying

    sometime. IMO. They want me to figure out how and what they think while telling me nothing and pretend everything is

    normal when something is wrong. This is the (almost)opposite when comes to western culture. I find that

    attractive.

    As far as mones concern, SoE smells good but stings my nose, Edge is not overbearing. I only use

    these two at the moment so I can't tell you more, sorry.


    PS. Come to Japan and be a star! You would be

    surprise how many JP dudes want to date foreigners.... Even want to date my ex's

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    not as familiar with

    female pheromone products, but afaik the really effective ones(that female users rave about) are:

    EOW- essence of

    women, pure copulins, SMELLS REALLY NASTY even at the tiniest dosage and needs to be covered with with a decent

    cover scent, but effective like there's no mayana.

    from 'the other place'
    Instant Sexiness - uber attention

    getter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post


    PS. Come to Japan and be a star! You would be surprise how many JP dudes want to date

    foreigners.... Even want to date my ex's

    kev, there aren't too many non-Asian (Caucasian or

    otherwise) women walking around in Japan is there? I don't remember seeing a single one when I was over there

    several years ago. I can imagine they'd be quite the hot commodity if they do go over there, celebrity status

    easy. =)

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    Oh~ Yeah~ I don't

    reckon seeing many foreigners here. Even a good amount, the ratio is still not high. If you speak Japanese, don't

    try to make your accent perfect. Trust me. It's a signature you can subtlely tell them, "I'm not from around

    here". Be gentle, talk sweet and show heaps of respect. My senpei does just that and he's always busy...

    LT.

    Which state you're living in? So you're finishing your major in JP in next 2 years?

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    good tip, I remember Bruce

    mentioning that they won't find you as 'exotic' if you spoke perfect Japanese. that shouldn't be a prob cuz

    I'm way past the prime age for language learning, messing up the accent should be a walk in a the park LOL.

    I'm

    in north cal, yup, if everything goes well I'll be done in 2 years. will first do an exchange program, most likely

    a short summer one so I don't have to pay too much double rent.

    are you going to language school there

    right now? or some other vocational college?

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    yes. I'm a language student.

    it's kind of a requirement if i want to go to the uni here.

    I put on 1 pack of Chikara today. It smelled sweet

    vanilla and too feminine but I got a lot of arm contacts with a Japanese lady at culture exchange program. Her

    pupils were rather dilated. I thought it should be a hit but I wasn't sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post
    yes. I'm

    a language student. it's kind of a requirement if i want to go to the uni here.

    I put on 1 pack of Chikara

    today. It smelled sweet vanilla and too feminine but I got a lot of arm contacts with a Japanese lady at culture

    exchange program. Her pupils were rather dilated. I thought it should be a hit but I wasn't sure.
    which

    body part u apply on?

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    Well... Is that a hit?
    I applied

    it mainly behind my ears and then my jaw.

    We were in the office so it was hardly because of lack of light. But it

    was dark outside. So I am not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevio View Post
    yes.

    I'm a language student. it's kind of a requirement if i want to go to the uni here.

    I put on 1 pack of Chikara

    today. It smelled sweet vanilla and too feminine but I got a lot of arm contacts with a Japanese lady at culture

    exchange program. Her pupils were rather dilated. I thought it should be a hit but I wasn't sure.


    I

    have long ago learned the wisdom to always "assume" and "act as if" when it comes to hits and mones.

    when in

    doubt, always assume it's a hit. since these things are usually quite subtle there's really no way to

    confirm or deny it except comparison with your own past experiences. blatant, in-your-face hits do occur, but often

    not on their own, you will always need to behave correctly and be friendly and inviting and the girls will open up

    to you without much resistance.

    (which is why I LOVE to OD like there's no mayana so I leave no room for 2nd

    guessing, the product either works or don't)

    pupil dialation and arm contacts are definitely IOIs.

    chikara

    doesn't seem to work well on its own, remember to use it with Edge/NPA and soe (lots of it) combo.

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