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    I suppose i like anyone initially gets peeved off when we find a thread or post has been

    deleated by Belgareth who must have his hands full at times with the decisions he has to make in the business of

    moderating the forum.


    The good thing is that the forum has not

    turned into a circus rabble and we can be thankfull for the good old fashioned common sense that does prevail and

    makes this a forum that is credable in its intelligent structure whereupon a man of interlect may post up to the

    standard of their full potential .


    I have also been one that

    has at times been guilty of a knee jerk reaction in ciitising the decisions Belgareth has made in moderating some of

    my threads and posts and here by apologise for my bad mouthing him after some personal moderation has taken place of

    my posts ect.


    I realise that he has a big responsability in

    the processes of filtering decisions and deserves the support that we can afford him in these sometimes diffucult

    decissions he has to make as i feel he is a person who would be only too willing to offer personal help and

    encouragement for those in their time of need.


    And i hope you

    may accept my apology for past badmouthing, and also realise when calm is restored there is no personal grudge

    retained with you in mind.


    And appreciate the time and work

    that you put in. terry0400-40
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    Thanks Terry.

    Please

    understand where I am coming from. You weren't here when various users decided that they could blindly attack

    anybody they didn't like and could disrupt every thread with useless babble so nobody could actually talk seriously

    about pheromones. Before that, there were no real rules except the golden one. Unfortunately, some people do not

    follow the golden rule and we ended up making a bunch of rules that I don't personally like to enforce. I am doing

    the job of moderator as a favor to Bruce, not because I want to be a dictator or even especially like it.

    You

    have no idea how many restrictions I have on me as compared to another user. Because I have this silly damned title

    I cannot say what I want more often than not, otherwise people will be whining about my being unfair and heavy

    handed and Hitler on steroids and all that happy BS. Yes, I do read comments made about me elsewhere. If you look at

    what I really do and consider the source of those statements you may eventually realize who the real bullshitters

    are.

    Actually, I own a business that demands a lot of me, have a wife, my own children and grandchildren and a

    life of my own. What I do here, as a volunteer, is something I try to plug in between all my other responsibilities,

    often either before most people get out of bed in the morning or after they are long asleep. And I try very hard to

    enforce the rules both fairly and exactly as the behavoir of forum members have caused us to write them. There is

    not a single rule here that I enforce that was not the direct result of something some member did. Those are often

    the same ones who whine and complain about the unfairness of it in other places.

    I am easy to contact. And those

    who have contacted me in a reasonable manner have found that I am willing to listen and often to change my position,

    to reverse myself. Those who attack me don't ever get me to change my mind but those who can act like a rational

    adult get a fair hearing. I know that I am human and make mistakes. Hell! I have no idea about moderating a forum

    and am learning the job as I go along.

    Just for fun, imagine that in some public place somebody said the same

    things to you that you said to me. What would you have done? No grudges, no hard feelings, OK? But the next time you

    have a problem with something you think I did, instead of attacking me or complaining about it in other venues, try

    talking to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Thanks Terry.

    Please understand where I am coming from. You weren't here when various

    users decided that they could blindly attack anybody they didn't like and could disrupt every thread with useless

    babble so nobody could actually talk seriously about pheromones. Before that, there were no real rules except the

    golden one. Unfortunately, some people do not follow the golden rule and we ended up making a bunch of rules that I

    don't personally like to enforce. I am doing the job of moderator as a favor to Bruce, not because I want to be a

    dictator or even especially like it.

    You have no idea how many restrictions I have on me as compared to another

    user. Because I have this silly damned title I cannot say what I want more often than not, otherwise people will be

    whining about my being unfair and heavy handed and Hitler on steroids and all that happy BS. Yes, I do read comments

    made about me elsewhere. If you look at what I really do and consider the source of those statements you may

    eventually realize who the real bullshitters are.

    Actually, I own a business that demands a lot of me, have a

    wife, my own children and grandchildren and a life of my own. What I do here, as a volunteer, is something I try to

    plug in between all my other responsibilities, often either before most people get out of bed in the morning or

    after they are long asleep. And I try very hard to enforce the rules both fairly and exactly as the behavoir of

    forum members have caused us to write them. There is not a single rule here that I enforce that was not the direct

    result of something some member did. Those are often the same ones who whine and complain about the unfairness of it

    in other places.

    I am easy to contact. And those who have contacted me in a reasonable manner have found that I

    am willing to listen and often to change my position, to reverse myself. Those who attack me don't ever get me to

    change my mind but those who can act like a rational adult get a fair hearing. I know that I am human and make

    mistakes. Hell! I have no idea about moderating a forum and am learning the job as I go along.

    Just for fun,

    imagine that in some public place somebody said the same things to you that you said to me. What would you have

    done? No grudges, no hard feelings, OK? But the next time you have a problem with something you think I did, instead

    of attacking me or complaining about it in other venues, try talking to me.
    Sure Fairs fair I can see where you are at and understand that your not a bad bloke

    really.

    Especially considering some of the cheek you have taken

    from me over the last 18 or so months, on occasions.


    I think you may agree that i have improved a

    little up to this day, and now i have had another bump in my comprehension and understanding I can perceive that you

    really dont have an ego problem as much as some others that at times get into discussions of a heated nature with

    you.


    I have

    actually taken the time and studied some of the confrontations that you have been involved in and can see that you

    are just trying to do your job.


    So you really must have a whole lot of patience to continually have to state your case on so

    many occasions when confronted, I bet you must really get sick of having to repeat yourself time and time again so

    as people know where you are coming from.




    If it was me i would end up telling people to like it or lump it

    lol.


    Next

    time i get sommat scrubbed i will go and do some breathing exercises and have a happy meal and then press the buzzer

    and say Hi wats up doc...........









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    Don't get me wrong. I have an

    ego roughly the size of Michigan but it has very little to do with moderating this forum. You might also notice that

    I rarely post and almost never talk about my results. I do alright but am not interested in bragging.

    Yeah, you

    have improved. You still have to understand that I have a job that I promised to do. I am going to do the best at it

    that I can, regardless of who likes it. It does kind of fit into the like it or tough shit catagory but I like to be

    a little more polite about it. In the end though, I am going to do the job I agreed to do regardless of who

    likes me or who doesn't. Without trying to insult anybody, the opinion of people that will probably never meet me

    means absolutely nothing but my opinion of myself and keeping my word means a lot.

    You mention patience. That's

    kind of a yes and a no. I did raise three willful and hard-headed daughters and managed to not strangle any of them

    so I can honestly say I have learned some patience. As for repeating myself, I guess that comes from raising kids

    too. Bill Cosby does a great routine about assigning numbers to the answers.
    "Dad, can I..."
    "Number 7"
    "but

    Dad..."
    "Number 4"
    I only wish I had thought of it about 18 years sooner.

    I guess the best I can say is that

    if everybody would read the rules thread and follow the few requirements posted there I would be out of work. It

    wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.

    Like I said, no hard feelings. Let's just go on from here.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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