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    That's true. The point is

    trust and when it comes to my well being I am not very trusting. Perhaps that's why I am in good health. Before

    I'd use any of those compounds I'd want to see some very firm scientific evidence. It took me months to convince

    myself that mones even worked and I wasn't ingesting them. Something I am going to put in my body is going to take

    a lot more convincing.

    Not to mention that blue skin just doesn't appeal to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    That's

    true. The point is trust and when it comes to my well being I am not very trusting. Perhaps that's why I am in good

    health. Before I'd use any of those compounds I'd want to see some very firm scientific evidence. It took me

    months to convince myself that mones even worked and I wasn't ingesting them. Something I am going to put in my

    body is going to take a lot more convincing.

    Not to mention that blue skin just doesn't appeal to

    me...
    I was trusting at one point long ago (far moreso out of desperation than gullibility) until I

    realized that a) remedies like this one don't necessarily work the same for everyone, b) many of them don't work

    at all, and c) some of them may actually be harmful. (Colloidal Silver was a major bust; I'm just thankful that it

    didn't turn me into the Incredible Hulk, although at this point I think I might just be angry enough for such a

    metamorphosis to occur.)

    The natural medicine industry is in many ways as corrupt as the drug industry (the

    major difference being that naturopaths, healers, etc. generally don't take insurance, so it really is "your money

    or your life").

    Anyway, I might try something like this IF someone could somehow prove to me that it worked.

    How they'd go about doing thus, I have no idea. All I know is, I've spent so much money on quacks and snake oil in

    recent years (only to end up the poorer and wiser) that I'd have to be beyond certain that a magic bullet like this

    was for real.
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    I respect the opinion of all who have posted on this thread, And i do sincerely appreciate the

    feedback on the subject.


    I realise the health and well being of the individual is important and it is in our individual

    hands regarding the choices that we make.




    It is a good thing we have the freedom to make the decisions and choose the

    paths that we persue in our quest for joyious health and well being.


    I am thankfull for the free will that we have

    and i wish all mankind the very best in the choices that they make here upon the Earth,

    And may all mankind obtain and enjoy the ultimate in good health that is possable.

    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Magnanimous post Terry, well

    done.

    I tend to err on the side of caution as well. I take half a handful of vitamins and supplements each day

    as a counterweight to my unhealthy lifestyle. Probably won't work though.

    Anyway, the things I do

    take are all pretty much mainstream, or at least well documented.

    Watch for side effects buddy, "blue" periods

    are overrated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Magnanimous post Terry, well done.

    I tend to err on the side of caution as well. I take

    half a handful of vitamins and supplements each day as a counterweight to my unhealthy lifestyle. Probably won't

    work though.

    Anyway, the things I do take are all pretty much mainstream, or at least well documented.



    Watch for side effects buddy, "blue" periods are overrated.
    Unhealthy

    lifestyle huh!

    Me too with my couple a cans of cola each week, and

    few servings of potato crisps.

    Not forgetting my peice of darkest

    chocolate daily.


    I take my B vit and fish oil and vit c each day, and erum a couple fingers of medicinal brandy

    when feeling faint on a very cold night,

    Thank goodness Mid

    Eastern coast Australia has predominantly mild weather.
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    I think good health is mostly a

    matter of moderation in all things. Obviously, you don't want to do things that will poison your body. Otherwise,

    simply using good sense and taking care of yourself is the best insurance of good health.

    Some examples would be

    stress and exercise. If you exercise regularly stress isn't an enemy. If you eat properly most of the time the

    occasional cheesseburger isn't going to hurt you. Most people hurt themselves and drastically shorten their lives

    by being couch potatoes and living on garbage foods. That's a recipe for an early grave. Personally speaking, I

    have every intention of being very late to my own funeral...say several decades? That is, if my mouth doesn't get

    me killed first.
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    We're all watching you Terry to see

    how this MM works out... YOU are our test subject, so if your avatar suddenly turns into a Smurf or something...



    Also, it's of note to see how current research is indicatiing that even those so-called "everyday" vitamin and

    other suppliments can cause more harm than good. Taking too much of a "good thing" can be as bad or worse than not

    enough (eg Vitamin A, E, and even D). I look to get as much as I can from normal foods. I do take a couple of

    standard multivitamin tabs each week (old fart formula) and some super B complex at least once a week (diabetic -

    the meds can screw up B12 for example) but that's it.

    And of course just because something is "natural"

    doesn't mean it's safe or good for you. Cyanide is "natural"...

    There was one gent over on a certain other

    forum who was dosing himself with a list of suppliments about a page long... I for one felt it was unwise, but...



    Sometimes the only way to find out it to try. As long as you also can accept the consequenses, good or ill.



    Whenever I try a suppliment (or pheromone) I usually start low and slow, ease the dosage up, watch carefully for

    side effects (or positive results), then also ease off when the test period is ending. No sudden starts or stops. So

    far so good. Never had a really bad reaction, but also notice I usually get little positive results from things

    I've tried. (Just finishing my Ginko Biloba test this month - can't say I noticed anything positive over the three

    month test period.)
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    Somewhere along the line I

    began to doubt anything that you cannot prove. It isn't just natural medicine, it includes flying suacers, global

    warming and bigfoot, to name a few. The louder and more hysterical the proponents get the more sceptical I get. You

    can't imagine the fun that causes here in the bible belt.

    What it all boils down too is my money and my

    decisions are tied to my natural scepticism. Let me see your proof, let me play with it and research it a while.

    I'll make up my own mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post



    What it all boils down too is my money and my decisions are tied to my natural scepticism. Let me see your proof,

    let me play with it and research it a while. I'll make up my own mind.
    Ahh, but skepticism reduces risk,

    which is valuable for a lively being. Perhaps a good "purging" is what you need!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes View Post

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    natural medicine industry is in many ways as corrupt as the drug industry





    Absolutely 100%

    correct. Health products, pheromone products and seduction materials can best be sold when people are desperate.

    Some products are reliable, but most people that sell these items are like sharks getting a sniff of blood in the

    water. There are so many people wanting to believe in miracles that these people make easy money. Too many folk want

    good health, sexual attractiveness etc. in a pill or a drop of liquid, and to hell with the hard work it takes to

    achieve even a chance at these things. Same with self-confidence, news flash-cannot get it from a bottle(either

    booze or mones). You might get a temporary lift from pheromones or alcohol, but soon the facade will come down.

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    Just wanted to get an update

    on your mms? Still using it?

    I ordered mms along with the citric acid , Should be in the mail this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY

    MEIR;213125
    Just wanted to get an update on your mms? Still using it?

    I ordered mms along with the citric acid ,

    Should be in the mail this week
    I use it as a detox or when i have a touch of food poisoning as

    it can be used sucessfully at around 12 drops as soon as the painfull effects of food poisioning are

    noticed.


    The citric acid used as the catalyst mix base can be

    obtained at just about any supermarket.


    Also apple cyder vinegar

    may be used as drops for the catalyst when the citric acid solution is not at hand.




    The MMS may be also used sucessfully as a maintence dose at around 3 or 4 drops per

    day.


    But if you have a specific ailment that has to be taken care

    of then go by the instructions in the Jim Humble book, or you can email me.




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    Thanks for the reply , I am

    going to try it because i have 2 problems that doctors can not help me with

    1ST is my teeth and gums hurt , but

    i have no cavities and every dentist ?doctor ive seen says there is nothing wrong with me>? odd right?

    Any ways

    i stumbled and found MMS buy accident , I love conspiracy and ufo related topics , One night i found a web site

    called project camelot

    Thats were i seen the video of him saying ""ive cured people from cancer and so on ,

    Pretty convincing video

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    I've had tooth/gum problems as well

    and some is traced to sinus problems oddly enough. Sinus infections (eg sinusitis) can really get my teeth hurting

    something fierce. May be linked to nerve pressure from swelling.
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    All i can say is if its such a

    miracle potion how come its not in the news or anywhere to be found. How come people with AIDS are not taking it???

    mmmm..... what are the side effects??? there is got to be a reason its not out there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmor View Post
    All i

    can say is if its such a miracle potion how come its not in the news or anywhere to be found. How come people with

    AIDS are not taking it??? mmmm..... what are the side effects??? there is got to be a reason its not out there

    yet.
    Perhaps if you read the free book by Jim Humble the MMS

    creator you may learn something.

    http://www.miraclemineral.org/part1.php
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    Chlorine dioxide is used to

    sterilize entire rooms. Seal off a room, pump a little inside and any living organism in the room will die. I would

    not purposely put Chlorine dioxide into my body for all the tea in China. I won't even drink tap water that hasn't

    been thoroughly filtered because of the chlorine compounds, not to mention the nasty chemicals they can produce by

    reacting with other chemicals in the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManStink View Post
    Chlorine dioxide is used to sterilize entire rooms. Seal off a room, pump a little inside

    and any living organism in the room will die. I would not purposely put Chlorine dioxide into my body for all the

    tea in China. I won't even drink tap water that hasn't been thoroughly filtered because of the chlorine compounds,

    not to mention the nasty chemicals they can produce by reacting with other chemicals in the

    water.
    Yes i agree as it has been proven that chlorine in drinking water

    creates at least three different carcinogenic compounds when it enters the body, but no sutch compounds have been

    found from chlorine dioxide.


    The American society of

    analytical chemists stated in 1999 that chlorine dioxide was the most powerfull "PATHOGEN" killer known to man.



    The other function that the chlorine dioxide does in

    the body, it tends to neutralize poisons.


    We believe

    that can be the only explanation why a malaria patient often goes from totally sick to totally well in less than

    four hours.


    The poisons that the maleria generates

    are nuetralized by the chlorine dioxide at the same time the parasites are

    killed.


    Chlorine dioxide is made in the body from

    "sodium chlorite" and it kills the hell out of

    diseases.


    You may drink filtered tap water but does

    your filter remove the memory effect of what was in the water, of course not, then go and do some more study on this

    subject and also do read and study the book written by Jim Humble regarding diseased conditions and "Sodium

    chlorite"

    ( it is not "Sodium Chloride" ) there is a

    big difference....
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    Don't forget many places also put

    flouride in your drinking water. Another chemical that by itself isn't nice.

    After many years of upset

    stomaches on a regular basis I experimented wtih using bottled spring water. Within a couple of weeks my discomfort

    vanished. When I mentioned this to some other local friends it turned out they (and their entire families) had

    discovered the same thing (although one was using "delivered" water and one was using a home filter). Our city water

    department still insists they meet the guidelines for "safe" water, but I have my doubts about those guidelines.



    "Dangerous" chemicals, when applied "correctly" can be beneficial (many prescription medications are poisons in a

    way, and known to be dangerous, if not fatal). However some are better than others, and as individuals may vary in

    how they react to those various chemicals, you have to monitor your own health closely. Universal flouridation and

    chlorination is an example of someone else deciding what and how much is good for you, and they could be very wrong.



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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    Yes i agree as it has been proven that chlorine in

    drinking water creates at least three different carcinogenic compounds when it enters the body, but no sutch

    compounds have been found from chlorine dioxide.


    The

    American society of analytical chemists stated in 1999 that chlorine dioxide was the most powerfull "PATHOGEN"

    killer known to man.


    The other function that the

    chlorine dioxide does in the body, it tends to neutralize

    poisons.


    We believe that can be the only explanation

    why a malaria patient often goes from totally sick to totally well in less than four

    hours.


    The poisons that the maleria generates are

    nuetralized by the chlorine dioxide at the same time the parasites are

    killed.


    Chlorine dioxide is made in the body from

    "sodium chlorite" and it kills the hell out of

    diseases.


    You may drink filtered tap water but does

    your filter remove the memory effect of what was in the water, of course not, then go and do some more study on this

    subject and also do read and study the book written by Jim Humble regarding diseased conditions and "Sodium

    chlorite"

    ( it is not "Sodium Chloride" ) there is a

    big difference....
    As someone who is a chemist (and I don't mean pharmacist) by

    profession, I am well aware of polyatomic ions and their names. As far as a "memory effect" of water if you show me

    where I can find info on this in a respected scientific journal (that means "New Scientist" is out), I will look

    into it, but everyone I have ever heard of talking about this was beyond crackpot.
    For the love of all things holy, no more bro science!

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