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    I respect the opinion of all who have posted on this thread, And i do sincerely appreciate the

    feedback on the subject.


    I realise the health and well being of the individual is important and it is in our individual

    hands regarding the choices that we make.




    It is a good thing we have the freedom to make the decisions and choose the

    paths that we persue in our quest for joyious health and well being.


    I am thankfull for the free will that we have

    and i wish all mankind the very best in the choices that they make here upon the Earth,

    And may all mankind obtain and enjoy the ultimate in good health that is possable.

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    Somewhere along the line I

    began to doubt anything that you cannot prove. It isn't just natural medicine, it includes flying suacers, global

    warming and bigfoot, to name a few. The louder and more hysterical the proponents get the more sceptical I get. You

    can't imagine the fun that causes here in the bible belt.

    What it all boils down too is my money and my

    decisions are tied to my natural scepticism. Let me see your proof, let me play with it and research it a while.

    I'll make up my own mind.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Magnanimous post Terry, well

    done.

    I tend to err on the side of caution as well. I take half a handful of vitamins and supplements each day

    as a counterweight to my unhealthy lifestyle. Probably won't work though.

    Anyway, the things I do

    take are all pretty much mainstream, or at least well documented.

    Watch for side effects buddy, "blue" periods

    are overrated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post



    What it all boils down too is my money and my decisions are tied to my natural scepticism. Let me see your proof,

    let me play with it and research it a while. I'll make up my own mind.
    Ahh, but skepticism reduces risk,

    which is valuable for a lively being. Perhaps a good "purging" is what you need!


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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Magnanimous post Terry, well done.

    I tend to err on the side of caution as well. I take

    half a handful of vitamins and supplements each day as a counterweight to my unhealthy lifestyle. Probably won't

    work though.

    Anyway, the things I do take are all pretty much mainstream, or at least well documented.



    Watch for side effects buddy, "blue" periods are overrated.
    Unhealthy

    lifestyle huh!

    Me too with my couple a cans of cola each week, and

    few servings of potato crisps.

    Not forgetting my peice of darkest

    chocolate daily.


    I take my B vit and fish oil and vit c each day, and erum a couple fingers of medicinal brandy

    when feeling faint on a very cold night,

    Thank goodness Mid

    Eastern coast Australia has predominantly mild weather.
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    I think good health is mostly a

    matter of moderation in all things. Obviously, you don't want to do things that will poison your body. Otherwise,

    simply using good sense and taking care of yourself is the best insurance of good health.

    Some examples would be

    stress and exercise. If you exercise regularly stress isn't an enemy. If you eat properly most of the time the

    occasional cheesseburger isn't going to hurt you. Most people hurt themselves and drastically shorten their lives

    by being couch potatoes and living on garbage foods. That's a recipe for an early grave. Personally speaking, I

    have every intention of being very late to my own funeral...say several decades? That is, if my mouth doesn't get

    me killed first.
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    We're all watching you Terry to see

    how this MM works out... YOU are our test subject, so if your avatar suddenly turns into a Smurf or something...



    Also, it's of note to see how current research is indicatiing that even those so-called "everyday" vitamin and

    other suppliments can cause more harm than good. Taking too much of a "good thing" can be as bad or worse than not

    enough (eg Vitamin A, E, and even D). I look to get as much as I can from normal foods. I do take a couple of

    standard multivitamin tabs each week (old fart formula) and some super B complex at least once a week (diabetic -

    the meds can screw up B12 for example) but that's it.

    And of course just because something is "natural"

    doesn't mean it's safe or good for you. Cyanide is "natural"...

    There was one gent over on a certain other

    forum who was dosing himself with a list of suppliments about a page long... I for one felt it was unwise, but...



    Sometimes the only way to find out it to try. As long as you also can accept the consequenses, good or ill.



    Whenever I try a suppliment (or pheromone) I usually start low and slow, ease the dosage up, watch carefully for

    side effects (or positive results), then also ease off when the test period is ending. No sudden starts or stops. So

    far so good. Never had a really bad reaction, but also notice I usually get little positive results from things

    I've tried. (Just finishing my Ginko Biloba test this month - can't say I noticed anything positive over the three

    month test period.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    We're

    all watching you Terry to see how this MM works out... YOU are our test subject, so if your avatar suddenly turns

    into a Smurf or something...

    Also, it's of note to see how current research is indicatiing that even those

    so-called "everyday" vitamin and other suppliments can cause more harm than good. Taking too much of a "good thing"

    can be as bad or worse than not enough (eg Vitamin A, E, and even D). I look to get as much as I can from normal

    foods. I do take a couple of standard multivitamin tabs each week (old fart formula) and some super B complex at

    least once a week (diabetic - the meds can screw up B12 for example) but that's it.

    And of course just because

    something is "natural" doesn't mean it's safe or good for you. Cyanide is "natural"...

    There was one gent over

    on a certain other forum who was dosing himself with a list of suppliments about a page long... I for one felt it

    was unwise, but...

    Sometimes the only way to find out it to try. As long as you also can accept the

    consequenses, good or ill.

    Whenever I try a suppliment (or pheromone) I usually start low and slow, ease the

    dosage up, watch carefully for side effects (or positive results), then also ease off when the test period is

    ending. No sudden starts or stops. So far so good. Never had a really bad reaction, but also notice I usually get

    little positive results from things I've tried. (Just finishing my Ginko Biloba test this month - can't say I

    noticed anything positive over the three month test period.)
    I agree RBT,

    There is nothing to rival wholesome foods especially those grown from soil that has not been re used over and over

    and has been depleated in minerals ect.




    I also remember the dude on the other forum and the huge list of supplements he

    was consuming at the time.

    I hope he is still

    kicking.


    Good luck with the pheromones good buddy, Id be interested to see what good mixes are on your menu

    at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    I agree RBT, There is nothing to rival wholesome foods

    especially those grown from soil that has not been re used over and over and has been depleated in minerals

    ect.


    I also remember the dude on the other forum and the huge

    list of supplements he was consuming at the time.

    I hope he is

    still kicking.


    Good luck with the pheromones good buddy, Id be

    interested to see what good mixes are on your menu at the moment.
    I may have

    to check the OP forum to see if he is still posting. I recall he gave up on that one huge list after his

    relationship with his health advisor hit a bump, and he went on to something else. Don't remember the details.



    At the moment I am playing around with some of the old "classics" like Lure and Yes! just to see what they are all

    about. Chikara is still one of my regular staples. There are a few of the P series from the OP that I am playing

    with too that seem to work. Nothing much else at the moment. Other things in the way.
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    I may

    have to check the OP forum to see if he is still posting. I recall he gave up on that one huge list after his

    relationship with his health advisor hit a bump, and he went on to something else. Don't remember the details.



    At the moment I am playing around with some of the old "classics" like Lure and Yes! just to see what they are all

    about. Chikara is still one of my regular staples. There are a few of the P series from the OP that I am playing

    with too that seem to work. Nothing much else at the moment. Other things in the way.
    Speaking of old classics and i have some assorted bottles Lure, APC, PPA, M11 and Sex Attractant

    acaologne :- the last one smells like concentrated coconut fragrance and when applied it can not be missed for a

    mile at least lol, Well they are all sittin around on the dresser gathering dust, with some

    others.

    Still have come C7 left in the safe as well as many

    others, U know the story so many pheromones so little time.


    I have some full 10 ml mixes of A7, NPA, +

    P74, with added Rone that have been sittin for years, and others that i may have to wait around and test out before

    i reach my old age ha ha. I"m gettin there, faster by the minute
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes View Post

    The

    natural medicine industry is in many ways as corrupt as the drug industry





    Absolutely 100%

    correct. Health products, pheromone products and seduction materials can best be sold when people are desperate.

    Some products are reliable, but most people that sell these items are like sharks getting a sniff of blood in the

    water. There are so many people wanting to believe in miracles that these people make easy money. Too many folk want

    good health, sexual attractiveness etc. in a pill or a drop of liquid, and to hell with the hard work it takes to

    achieve even a chance at these things. Same with self-confidence, news flash-cannot get it from a bottle(either

    booze or mones). You might get a temporary lift from pheromones or alcohol, but soon the facade will come down.

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    Just wanted to get an update

    on your mms? Still using it?

    I ordered mms along with the citric acid , Should be in the mail this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY

    MEIR;213125
    Just wanted to get an update on your mms? Still using it?

    I ordered mms along with the citric acid ,

    Should be in the mail this week
    I use it as a detox or when i have a touch of food poisoning as

    it can be used sucessfully at around 12 drops as soon as the painfull effects of food poisioning are

    noticed.


    The citric acid used as the catalyst mix base can be

    obtained at just about any supermarket.


    Also apple cyder vinegar

    may be used as drops for the catalyst when the citric acid solution is not at hand.




    The MMS may be also used sucessfully as a maintence dose at around 3 or 4 drops per

    day.


    But if you have a specific ailment that has to be taken care

    of then go by the instructions in the Jim Humble book, or you can email me.




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    Thanks for the reply , I am

    going to try it because i have 2 problems that doctors can not help me with

    1ST is my teeth and gums hurt , but

    i have no cavities and every dentist ?doctor ive seen says there is nothing wrong with me>? odd right?

    Any ways

    i stumbled and found MMS buy accident , I love conspiracy and ufo related topics , One night i found a web site

    called project camelot

    Thats were i seen the video of him saying ""ive cured people from cancer and so on ,

    Pretty convincing video

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    I've had tooth/gum problems as well

    and some is traced to sinus problems oddly enough. Sinus infections (eg sinusitis) can really get my teeth hurting

    something fierce. May be linked to nerve pressure from swelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt View Post
    I've had

    tooth/gum problems as well and some is traced to sinus problems oddly enough. Sinus infections (eg sinusitis) can

    really get my teeth hurting something fierce. May be linked to nerve pressure from

    swelling.
    Consuming raw nuts is good prevention and maintence for sinus, also taking

    concentrated propolis drops.


    If there is a local and painfull

    sinus infection in the forehead and below the eyes and nose area then hold a wet wrung out and steaming hot face

    washer over the area about 1/2 dozen times, it is good to wear rubber gloves as the heat burns the hands, but this

    can get rid off it.


    If you have to resort to anti biotics then

    most sinus are very resistant to them, and the BEST combination to take is Flagyl 200 mg and Dalacin C 150 mg caps,

    usually one cource will wipe and dry out any sinus infection.


    I

    also sufered sinus infections for 30 years but for the last few years i have kept it at at bay, thank goodness,

    because i know how painfull and discomforting it can be.
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    One of the things on my To Do list

    for this new year is to do some more investigation concerning my sinus problems, including traditional MD

    (Otolaryngologist, or ENT specialist which is easier to spell...) and other "natural" treatments. I'm pretty much

    sure my sinus problems prevent me from getting any "self effects" from pheromones. Which may not be a bad thing as I

    don't have to sweat any of the possible negative affects from say A-1. Plus as the problems seem to be somewhere in

    my "inner sinuses" and not in my nose it could point to where the pheromone receptor sites (if any) in humans

    reside.
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    WOW you guys are on the

    right track , For the last year or so I have had a stuffy nose slash congestion

    Its kind of like a cold that

    never went away ... I went to my nose ear specialist in nuburyport MA , AND they did a allergy test showing a was

    allergic to all kinds of stuff . including dust mites etc .......

    So i started getting shots every week for 8

    months with no change in my condition , ALSO bought a kirby vacum $2,000 dollars (not cheap) and got rid of all the

    dust mites in my bed . still no change

    So know my teeth throb and im always stuffy , and my throat is swolen

    sometimes (from what the doctor said)

    Still have not really diognosed or cured my condition , thats why after

    seeing the mms video I thought i found something that might cure it

    By the way , Ive been stripping lead paint

    off of homes for the past 10 years , I restore / paint homes

    Thanks for the info so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY

    MEIR;213139
    WOW you guys are on the right track , For the last year or so I have had a stuffy nose slash

    congestion

    Its kind of like a cold that never went away ... I went to my nose ear specialist in nuburyport MA ,

    AND they did a allergy test showing a was allergic to all kinds of stuff . including dust mites etc .......

    So i

    started getting shots every week for 8 months with no change in my condition , ALSO bought a kirby vacum $2,000

    dollars (not cheap) and got rid of all the dust mites in my bed . still no change

    So know my teeth throb and im

    always stuffy , and my throat is swolen sometimes (from what the doctor said)

    Still have not really diognosed or

    cured my condition , thats why after seeing the mms video I thought i found something that might cure it

    By the

    way , Ive been stripping lead paint off of homes for the past 10 years , I restore / paint homes

    Thanks for the

    info so far
    Keep us posted Billy.... meantime we will stay in tune for intelligence

    from the force.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8

    Here is the entire video where he claims it cures aids

    and cancer etc ... pretty amazing if you beleive him

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY

    MEIR;213142
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8

    Here is the entire video where he claims it

    cures aids and cancer etc ... pretty amazing if you beleive him
    I know that the MMS is

    legit, no doubts.
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    Well so far its not going so

    good , I started out with one drop , and increased it by 1 drop a day

    Im up to 14 drops of mms and 70 drops of

    the citric acid , From day one i have felt horrible , headaches ,belly ache etc

    How long should i take mms at

    the 15 drop level? I think for 1 or 2 weeks?

    take care

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY

    MEIR;213538
    Well so far its not going so good , I started out with one drop , and increased it by 1 drop a day



    Im up to 14 drops of mms and 70 drops of the citric acid , From day one i have felt horrible , headaches ,belly

    ache etc

    How long should i take mms at the 15 drop level? I think for 1 or 2 weeks?

    take

    care
    I worked up to the 25 drop level as that is the required amount

    for major disease to be wiped out ect.

    It is not

    very pleasant and if the sickness and many foul stools caused by the clensing process is too intense 4 you to endure

    then back off a little till the cleansing symptoms subside and then resume.

    The body does acumulate a fair amount of toxic matter over the years and it is not

    pleasant i know when it is realeased.

    Also i realise

    that when the number of drops MMS get high there is a bad alkaline taste left in the mouth and most food tastes

    foul.

    You must be sure that you are not consuming

    any ascorbic acid ( vit C ) when you are taking the MMS.

    And be aware that vitamin c is used as a preservative in many foods and also as a

    preservative in apple juice and many other juices, so be very carefull to check what you are consuming as the

    inclusion of Vit C ( ascorbic acid ) will detract from the results of the MMS in a BIG

    way.


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    I appreciate the reply back

    .... I have talked to alot of people regarding mms, and they all say not to go over 15 drops?

    It even says it on

    the bottle , start with 1 or 2 drops , work your way to 15 drops ....... IT does not say its bad to go over 15 drops

    , It just does not say anything OTHER than reah 15 drops twice a day

    Also i only found one company that makes a

    pure apple juice , i called them up and they said our juice is made from pure apples . Just curious what did you mix

    it with?

    And how long did you take mms at max dose? and did it cure your condidtion? sorry for all the

    questions

    I just want to get rid of MY condition

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY MEIR View Post
    I

    appreciate the reply back .... I have talked to alot of people regarding mms, and they all say not to go over 15

    drops?

    It even says it on the bottle , start with 1 or 2 drops , work your way to 15 drops ....... IT does not

    say its bad to go over 15 drops , It just does not say anything OTHER than reah 15 drops twice a day

    Also i only

    found one company that makes a pure apple juice , i called them up and they said our juice is made from pure apples

    . Just curious what did you mix it with?

    And how long did you take mms at max dose? and did it cure your

    condidtion? sorry for all the questions

    I just want to get rid of MY condition
    The most comprehensive advice and directions are found in the Jim Humble

    handbook.

    I know that hepatitis patients start

    taking increasing the drops the drops until they can take 30 drops twice a day without nausea, they will then check

    negative to hepatitis of all kinds, see chapter 8 Page 9.


    You will probably see

    results when you have worked up to 15 dr twice a day without experiencing

    nausea.


    Nausea and putrid stools ect are just signs that the body is still undergoing

    cleansing.


    Oh yes i did take my MMS in a glass of water only each

    time.


    Without having to resort to finding time to do my own juicing, I discovered that just

    about all pure apple juices in the store did contain ascorbic acid as a preservative, some manufacturers also do not

    mention this.


    But the taking of any vit C ( ASCORBIC ACID ) will detract from the MMS results by up to

    %75, that is why is is crucial to make sure and check averything that is drunk and or consumed does not have any vit

    c added into it.

    I have a friend who is a

    naturepathic practicioner he is about 70 yo and has saved countless lives and much disease with his knowledge, and i

    will try and contact him for advise 4 your sinus re the MMS use.

    He is a little hard to contact at times as he travels Australia wide giving lectures at

    seminars, treating patients, and ever learning and refreshing his qualifications, his wife is also skilled in

    Chinese herbal medicine and also Scaler healing, she is Chinese.

    You may email me terry0400-40@hotmail.com



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    All i can say is if its such a

    miracle potion how come its not in the news or anywhere to be found. How come people with AIDS are not taking it???

    mmmm..... what are the side effects??? there is got to be a reason its not out there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmor View Post
    All i

    can say is if its such a miracle potion how come its not in the news or anywhere to be found. How come people with

    AIDS are not taking it??? mmmm..... what are the side effects??? there is got to be a reason its not out there

    yet.
    Perhaps if you read the free book by Jim Humble the MMS

    creator you may learn something.

    http://www.miraclemineral.org/part1.php
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    Chlorine dioxide is used to

    sterilize entire rooms. Seal off a room, pump a little inside and any living organism in the room will die. I would

    not purposely put Chlorine dioxide into my body for all the tea in China. I won't even drink tap water that hasn't

    been thoroughly filtered because of the chlorine compounds, not to mention the nasty chemicals they can produce by

    reacting with other chemicals in the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManStink View Post
    Chlorine dioxide is used to sterilize entire rooms. Seal off a room, pump a little inside

    and any living organism in the room will die. I would not purposely put Chlorine dioxide into my body for all the

    tea in China. I won't even drink tap water that hasn't been thoroughly filtered because of the chlorine compounds,

    not to mention the nasty chemicals they can produce by reacting with other chemicals in the

    water.
    Yes i agree as it has been proven that chlorine in drinking water

    creates at least three different carcinogenic compounds when it enters the body, but no sutch compounds have been

    found from chlorine dioxide.


    The American society of

    analytical chemists stated in 1999 that chlorine dioxide was the most powerfull "PATHOGEN" killer known to man.



    The other function that the chlorine dioxide does in

    the body, it tends to neutralize poisons.


    We believe

    that can be the only explanation why a malaria patient often goes from totally sick to totally well in less than

    four hours.


    The poisons that the maleria generates

    are nuetralized by the chlorine dioxide at the same time the parasites are

    killed.


    Chlorine dioxide is made in the body from

    "sodium chlorite" and it kills the hell out of

    diseases.


    You may drink filtered tap water but does

    your filter remove the memory effect of what was in the water, of course not, then go and do some more study on this

    subject and also do read and study the book written by Jim Humble regarding diseased conditions and "Sodium

    chlorite"

    ( it is not "Sodium Chloride" ) there is a

    big difference....
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Don't forget many places also put

    flouride in your drinking water. Another chemical that by itself isn't nice.

    After many years of upset

    stomaches on a regular basis I experimented wtih using bottled spring water. Within a couple of weeks my discomfort

    vanished. When I mentioned this to some other local friends it turned out they (and their entire families) had

    discovered the same thing (although one was using "delivered" water and one was using a home filter). Our city water

    department still insists they meet the guidelines for "safe" water, but I have my doubts about those guidelines.



    "Dangerous" chemicals, when applied "correctly" can be beneficial (many prescription medications are poisons in a

    way, and known to be dangerous, if not fatal). However some are better than others, and as individuals may vary in

    how they react to those various chemicals, you have to monitor your own health closely. Universal flouridation and

    chlorination is an example of someone else deciding what and how much is good for you, and they could be very wrong.



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