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    Agree with Rbt on the name Alex, but some women have that

    nickname, diminutive for Alexandra or Alexis.

    It seems that

    it is equal to the situation with the male name Alex in Russia. Here it is a half-jocular nickname for Alexander or

    Alexey.


    I've always appreciated the Russian custom of making

    the middle name a patronymic. Alexandrovna is both lovely and respectful.


    There was an Englishman in

    the Soviet Union who taught English. And his new Russian name became Richard Richardovich Dixon.



    Alex, I've made

    some assumptions, please correct me when I'm wrong.




    I mostly agree with you, Idesign, but I think that many in the West

    underestimate what happened in 90s in Russia.

    Yes, the US is a very

    liberal country. However, I know one thing about the US for sure. A friend of my father is a pensioner and he hadn’t

    worked a day in the US. But he has an apartment, medical care which in the SU had top communist bosses only and the

    like. During our capitalist reforms the old folks became just dirt under feet. As well as invalids and anybody who

    was not able to build capitalism with the nails and teeth.

    Also whole

    cites began to be controlled by gangsters. Posts of mayors or governors were just bought by them. So Putin in some

    sense just returned the country to more or less normal conditions. And since the citizens didn’t want to do anything

    everything was done by the Kremlin.

    And I wouldn’t say that Putin is

    trying to control me.


    There

    was a soviet joke. A guy comes to the office in a rumpled shirt and answers the boss to his question. I got up in

    the morning and switched on the TV set. It was a translation of the 24th meeting of the Communist party of the

    Soviet Union. Then I switched on radio. It was a translation of the 24th meeting of the Communist party of the

    Soviet Union. I didn’t even try to switch on an electric iron.




    There is nothing like this now. I read and write in the Net everything I

    want. Nobody blocks sites, moreover the government tries to computerize all the country. For $3-4 a month I can get

    70 channels including the CNN and Euronews through the telephone connection. Euronews are even broadcasted by an

    open standard channel with a translation in Russian. Nobody says me what I should watch – the CNN or Russian

    channels. The only thing Putin wants in return is that I wouldn’t interfere in his affairs too


    He is building capitalism and doesn’t want me hamper him. And it is OK

    by the majority of people since all his opponents proved that they cannot suggest anything better. On the contrary,

    everybody knows that they would just make things worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post


    There was an Englishman in the Soviet Union who taught

    English. And his new Russian name became Richard Richardovich Dixon.



    Dangerously close to an American politician. Using

    nicknames he would be "Tricky Dick Dickovich Nixon".



    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    I mostly agree with you, Idesign, but I think that many in the

    West underestimate what happened in 90s in Russia.

    Yes, the US is a very

    liberal country. However, I know one thing about the US for sure. A friend of my father is a pensioner and he

    hadn’t worked a day in the US. But he has an apartment, medical care which in the SU had top communist bosses

    only and the like. During our capitalist reforms the old folks became just dirt under feet. As well as invalids and

    anybody who was not able to build capitalism with the nails and teeth.


    Also whole cites began to be controlled by gangsters. Posts of mayors or

    governors were just bought by them. So Putin in some sense just returned the country to more or less normal

    conditions. And since the citizens didn’t want to do anything everything was done by the Kremlin.


    And I wouldn’t say that Putin is trying to control me.



    Understood. The parallels with the US are limited I know.

    Putin has a very different set of circumstances. Since there is no democratic tradition in Russia he must play his

    role as benevolent dictator. Interesting that you said "back to normal", it is reminiscent of Czarist Russia no?



    The oligarchy/mafia scheme was inevitable, as they were the only ones in place to fill the power/economic void

    left by a dead Soviet system. On the other hand, the Soviets had a cabal of powerful people who ran everything

    (aparatchiks), and many of them are the same characters operating in a different system. At least the

    Communist/totalitarian control is gone, along with the Glorious Meeting of the 24th Komsomol/Comintern/Commitetye

    Sovietskiye.

    The ones caught in the middle are the ones who had their life and spirit sucked out of them by the

    Soviet system, one might even say soul. All incentive was drained from a huge segment of population which is

    capable of turning Russia into a greater nation than it already is. Who knows how many generations it will take

    before the mentality of the "collective" leaves the minds of your people.



    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    There was a soviet joke. A guy comes to the office in a rumpled

    shirt and answers the boss to his question. I got up in the morning and switched on the TV set. It was a translation

    of the 24th meeting of the Communist party of the Soviet Union. Then I switched on radio. It was a translation of

    the 24th meeting of the Communist party of the Soviet Union. I didn’t even try to switch on an electric iron.



    Very funny! It reminds me of myself when I turn on the TV and

    hear most of the mainstream media gibberish which passes as "news". Fortunately for both of us, we have many

    alternatives to the old

    monopoly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alex157 View Post
    Nobody says me what I should watch – the CNN or Russian channels. The only thing Putin wants in return

    is that I wouldn’t interfere in his affairs too

    He is building

    capitalism and doesn’t want me hamper him. And it is OK by the majority of people since all his opponents

    proved that they cannot suggest anything better. On the contrary, everybody knows that they would just make things

    worse.
    By these comments I know that you are Russian! Welcome moi droog, we must drink

    together some day. Your pragmatic optimism is a trait which many can learn from.

    I'm genuinely curious Alex,

    how long and how far do you think Putin can rule this way? Where do you think the nature of politics is going? Do

    you think Russia needs a "Czar" like Putin or someone equally strong?

    Good discussion, thank you.
    Greg
    Last edited by idesign; 01-21-2008 at 10:26 PM.

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