I'm not sure if you were referring to me as the "other" one of the
two, but I never had psychiatric conditions, I was just on drugs ...big difference
Yeah, I remember I was
so paranoid from PI...I hadn't used it in 2 weeks, and I was thinking that when I was driving that people in their
cars 100ft away could smell me! LOL. I was insane (at the time).
Since returning to mones (and being drug-free),
I barely even notice ODs. The whole "OD" concept is in your head. You can't "OD" on something that most people
can't even smell. The OD is mostly your own perception of what you think is happening, so you act congruently to
that. Then your subsequent actions are what cause others to act awkwardly around you. It has nothing to do with the
pheromones, you've just yourself become ultra-aware of your surroundings. You're noticing things that were already
there before, you just didn't see them before because you weren't ultra-aware or sensitive of your
environment.
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Even though I frequent the other site's forum more than this one (only because
they are more active), I will say this: some of the people on that forum are a little over the top in their belief
of pheromones. Even though most people are genuinely posting their experience and it's mostly honest, there are
sometimes when I wonder if a user is just another userID of the admin or something. Some of the 'stories' are
blown out of proportion and exaggerated. Don't believe everything you read on there, I would venture to say some
poster there are full of shit (maybe getting paid to post?).
And then you read stuff like that, and stuff about
ODs, thinking that pheromones are just sooo powerful. It's not so, but your belief system changes because of what
you read, whether you consciously believe it or not, your body is now aware of the possibility. So when you are
super-aware of the body-language of others and notice the slightest awkward behavior, your mind connects the dots
where there may not even be any relation.
The fact is, you want to believe it's the pheromones, so that's what
you are seeing. What you see is based on what you believe, and when you see what you believe, it concretes those
beliefs furthers, and you get stuck in this crazy cycle.
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I mean, Sublime, I know what you
think you're going through. It's real to you, but it's really not real. And when others try to convince you
that it's not real, you'll think they're lying to you. Yeah, it sucks. But listen, I suspect part of this could
be that you are probably somewhat of an introvert. I have a hunch, because that's one of my natural tendencies, to
'stay in my own head' and over-analyze things I see.
What you need to do is get out of your head. This is by
far the best thing you can do, and it's how I got over my issue. You have a fear that has nothing to do with
pheromones. I don't know the root of the fear, only you know it. But that's what is driving all of this. You
have to get out of your head and be social with people everywhere you go. Ignore all body language, just talk to
people. When you are somewhere - anywhere - don't allow your mind to pre-occupy with thoughts. Focus on what is
outside of yourself, on other people, things, and objects. If you are having a conversation, focus all your
attention on the other person. Don't try to figure out what they may be thinking about you. Let go of the result,
enjoy the process. Be in the moment. You mentioned that you stopped meditating and exercising...don't you think
this could have something to do with the way you're feeling? Yes, maybe you initially stopped those because of the
pheromones, but not doing those for 1-2 weeks can definitely make you feel significantly different.
Just let go
of all these thoughts. It's easier than you think. You're over complicating things, and don't listen to the
people on that other forum who talk about ozonators and all that bullshit. When I was going through a similar thing
as you, I would shower 4-5 times a day. I would scrub my skin with benzoyl peroxide and nioxin shampoo until my
skin was red. I tried every possible 'solution' out there. It's all bullshit. The best thing that rids you of
androstenone is a little time. And not weeks, just 24-48hrs is enough time. Like I said this is coming from me, a
guy who used to think people could smell me from inside their cars 100ft away. I had family over and thought they
were all avoiding me. I skipped so many classes that I even failed a class. It wasn't because of the pheromones.
It was all me. So take responsibility for what's going on in your head. You haven't once mentioned if you're on
drugs, or taking lots of caffeine or what, but maybe you don't want to share that information. I would bet $1000
that you are on something, whether it's drugs, caffeine, or a prescription, or you have some form of social
anxiety. There is no way the pheromones have anything to do with this.
With all that said, I wish you the best
of luck. You can pull through this.
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