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    Lightbulb Newbie mones field testing

    First post,

    but have been lurking for a bit reading the great threads and the phero library.

    As the £ to $ exchange

    rate was so favourable last week (even with paypals exchange rate) I decided to place some orders with LS which has

    resulted in my stash being as follows:
    Alpha A314
    Alpha-7 (Unscented)
    APC
    Edge (Unscented)


    Liquid Trust
    NPA
    Perception Gel Packs (came free with my orders)
    Primal Instinct (Unscented)
    Pheros


    Rogue Male
    Scent of Eros
    SOE gel packs (as part of the newbie kit)

    I received the main part of

    my stash yesterday 5th Nov 2007 (first order on 1st Nov 2007) the only thing still to come is Pheros should be here

    either tomorrow or Thursday.

    My goal for using mones is to improve my "game" (with women) by putting myself

    in unplanned but more importantly in unexpected interactions. So that when I'm on the pull as they say here in the

    UK I'll be in a much better position because of all the unexpected baptisms of fire I've willingly but

    unexpectedly been put in, plus a hell of a lot more natural – at least that's the current plan.

    It

    would be good if I could have it all now, which is unlikely to happen so I'm doing the next best thing which is (in

    my mind) to fail fast. The more I fail the more likely I'll have success.

    Anyway I've been working on my

    inner game (mind set, beliefs etc.) since April this year (2007) and it's paying off. So I think it's a good time

    to work on some outer game areas, saying that I do subscribe to the idea that all game is inner game - I'm just

    going to go about it in a belt and braces sort of way.

    A good example of my belt and braces sort of way is

    the 20 Euro that I keep in my wallet; I can't relay spend it here in the UK (there are shops that accept Euros but

    their mainly where tourists are located) and I can't say that I don't have any money because I do, if I do I'm

    lying to myself and my mind knows that I have money in my wallet.

    Before this little mind hack and the inner

    game work I was starting to have problems with my cash flow. Since April it's been fine and I'm now earning double

    what I was making in April without changing employers.

    Legal disclaimer for the mind hack above: your mileage

    may/will very.


    A little about me:

    Age: 24 (will be 25 next May)

    Hight: 5'7” - Last

    time I was measured for my ID card

    Weight: 17.5 stones just over 110kg or 242 pounds (down from 19 stones

    about 120kg or 264 pounds in the past few months with very little doing on my part - mainly inner game).
    It's

    been said that I take after my great grandfather on my fathers side who was a very well built farmer at the turn of

    the last century (early 1900's). I could probably lose a couple more stones in flab but after that it would be

    muscle. I'm doing so body weight calisthenics to speed up the flab loss (but building up sloly).

    Diet:

    Portuguese - think mediterranean + fusion, but far better (at least within my family, farther and mother being ex

    head chefs at a number of places in London).

    Looks: If I toned up I could maybe get into GQ (inner game

    typing here). Being serious - on a scale of 1 to 10 were 1 is being brutally beaten with the ugly bat (not stick)

    and 10 being say GQ looks I'd say I'm a 7 (6 easy). But I'm biased.

    Job: Sys admin at an undisclosed

    university, on a daily basis I come into contact with lots of people with a large portion being women (all different

    ages).

    Method of travel: I mainly walk or take the bus (public transport) which should be

    interesting.

    What I ware: Trousers (usually black), In the summer I some times ware shorts. Short sleeve

    shirts (unless I'm wearing a suite in which case it's a long sleeved shirt) I also ware a white v neck T-shirt

    under my shirts. I colour coordinated my foot ware to match my shirt be it trainers or shoes, if I cant I

    coordinated with my trousers. I also colour coordinated I keep it simple and match colour.



    On to my

    field testing plan.

    I plan on testing each product over a 2 week period (each being tested for 2 weeks before

    moving to the next one) and posting my results on here. I was going to start off with NPA but put that off until I

    get a good covering scent.

    I start my field tests with SOE today (6th of Nov 2007), what I did and the

    results for today as as follows:

    Put on at about 6:20 am using the SOE roll-top bottle - 6" on each forearm

    (=12"), 1” or so behind both ears (=2") which was then spread around neck and face what was left on hands was

    placed on the forearms. Total = 14" of SOE

    By mid day the SOE scent was starting to fade from

    forearms.

    By 4 pm no noticeable SOE scent left but forearms started to smell a little musty.

    No hits,

    none that I would consider out of the ordinary still too early to tell.
    Last edited by liquidg; 11-13-2007 at 12:27 PM. Reason: Added what I ware
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    Thumbs up Day 2

    Same amount as yesterday,

    but this time I didn't cover the whole of my forearms just the lower side (the part which faces the body when the

    arms are by your side).

    The scent lasted longer, in fact I can still smell a tiny amount of the SOE scent a

    full 12 hours after I applied it on my forearms. Looks like the smaller the area I spread the SOE over the longer it

    lasts on me.

    1 definite hit - on the way home from work a few stops before I was going to get off at, the

    woman sitting next to me (eastern European - late 20s early 30s) turns round towards me and started to ask me if I

    knew the name of a movie. I think that was what she had asked me.

    She started to describe a scene where there

    were these wild animals on an island eating rotting meat. When she said that I started thinking she was about to

    tell me I smelt of rotten meet, she continued describing the film to which I replied that I didn't know, then she

    said "don't you know star wars".

    By that point I was totally confused and started to think she was one

    sandwich short of a pick nick. Luckily the bus pulled up at my stop and I made a quick escape.

    Earlier in

    the day (10ish) while at the help desk where I work I caught one of the users I've helped before giving me the

    once over with her eyes while playing with her hair, when she noticed I was looking at her she quickly looked

    away.
    When you compete with others you discover your weaknesses. When you compete with yourself you find your strengths.
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    Welcome to the forum liquidg,

    looking forward to more of your reports. That's quite a stash you've built up there, you should have no trouble

    dialing in the hits, esp since you're willing to experiment methodically.

    Seems like you already attracted some

    attention. Be ready with a quick smile when you catch them staring.

    Cover scents: All mones have a scent, some

    more than others. Make sure you don't go out smelling like stale armpit. Personally I cover Everything. You'll

    love Pheros, it works well with everything you have.

    Best luck and keep reporting.

    Forgot to mention, the best

    places to apply are on the pulse points. In cold weather this amounts to neck and wrists. Some like to apply to

    clothing and hair, but I've not tried this, preferring to let the mones interact with body chems. I may try it now

    that its colder.
    Last edited by idesign; 11-07-2007 at 05:46 PM. Reason: addendum

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    Smile

    Idesign, thanks

    for the words of
    encouragement. And yes they do get a smile, but since

    starting my inner game work I more or less always have a smile on my face.




    I’m planning to get samples of the following cover scents to try them out before testing the mones

    that need covering:


    Armani Acqua Di Gio
    Armani Code (a.k.a

    black code)

    Davidoff Cool Water
    Jean Paul

    Gaultier Le Male

    Issey Miyake L'eau D'Issey Homme

    If anyone

    has any suggestions for other scents to try please post your suggestions. Especially if their essential oils (and

    where to get them) as I would like to field test oils as well.


    Also I have just recently

    stopped using antiperspirant after finding out about their contents and am looking to replace my under arm roll on

    deodorant with something more natural - be it essential oil/s or an Active Enzyme deodorant or something

    else.


    If anyone has any suggestions (especially if you live in the UK) please post, also

    can you include where you get it. Thanks.


    Should have included this in my original post:

    I wash every morning and shave (wet – mach 3 razor) every other day.

    Having said that I’m

    looking at getting a Braun 9595 Pulsonic Shaver or going back to using Wilkinsons Sword razors. Although the thought

    of using a
    Cut Throat Razor has crossed my mind a couple of times.
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    Lightbulb Day 3 part 1:

    I

    decided to change the amount and how I applied SOE. The reason being that on Thursdays and Fridays I start about an

    hour and a half later than on Monday to Wednesday, and I work in a different department.




    What this means is that I travel to work during the main part of the morning rush hour. The

    route I take (same as Mon to Wed just an hour later) on Thursdays and Fridays tends to fill up with mostly women

    (most in their 20s to 30s) and secondary school (high school) girls.




    SOE Application:

    Applied at about 7:20 am.



    2 X 6” on inside of forearms + 1 X 6” on the other side of the

    forearm.

    Total on each forearm = 18”
    Total on both forearms =

    36”


    Behind each ear and going down to the neck = 2”


    For a total of 4” applied behind ears.

    1.5” between

    sideburn area and ear = total of 3”


    1 X 6” roll horizontally

    across the front of the neck just below where the Adams apple area would be.




    Total SOE = 49”

    Note that the SOE was not rubbed or

    spread, just left to dry where it was applied.

    The reason for this is that on day 2 I

    spread the SOE to just the inner side of the forearm and the SOE scent lasted almost 12 hours on me only starting to

    fade by 3pm. Where as on day 1 I spread the SOE all over my forearms and the scent started to fade by

    midday.
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    Post Day 3 part 2

    As I

    was leaving the house I decided to put a 1” roll on the back of each hand as the majority of the SOE I had on would

    be inside my jacket. Plus it would give good coverage when I move my hands.


    I get on

    before the first major stop on my journey where lots of people get on and off. With that in mind I stood for half my

    journey on purpose (until Waterloo the next major stop on my bus route), I located myself in the buggy/standing area

    with my back against the window and the wall of the stairs going to the top level on my right. This is an area where

    I would be surrounded by lots of people and this morning was no different.


    Right in

    front of me were 2 women, the one to my right was say mid to late 20s the one to my left was in her 30s. A couple of

    stops later another woman in her early 30s, stood right next to me on my left.


    As the

    bus got closer to the stop where the schools girls get off they each took it in turns to look at me.




    While the one in front of me to my left kept looking at me every so often, there was no reason for it

    a she wasn’t facing in my direction. She also started to unbutton her coat not that the bus was warm.




    A Couple of stops before Waterloo a seat became available at the back of the bus and she grab the

    seat.


    As the bus was pulling up to the Waterloo stop the one in front of me to my right

    turned round to look out the window, look back then kept looking back at me until she got off.




    After half the people on the bus got off I made my way to the back of the bus and found my self a seat

    which happened to be opposite the woman in her mid to late 20s. As people started to get on I found my self in a

    position which is coming to be quite frequent (which is the reason I added that I travel by bus in my first post).



    At the back of the bus that I was on there is 2 rows of 4 seats split in to 2 sets

    which face each other with a walk way separating the seats. Along the back of the bus is a single row of 5 seas

    which is at a right angle to the previously mention seats.


    When the bus left Waterloo

    there were 2 women to my left the 5 seats along the back of the bus was full with woman and all the seats on the

    opposite row was also full with just women. The funny thing was that all the men happened to be standing at the

    front of the bus and as you came towards the back it was just women and me.


    The row

    along the back was mainly mid 20s to early 30s, on the row opposite (apart from the mid to late 20s I talk about

    earlier) were late 30s to 40s and to my right I think the same but I wasn’t paying that much attention when I went

    to sit down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liquidg View Post
    I

    I’m planning to get samples of the

    following cover scents to try them out before testing the mones that need covering:




    Armani Acqua Di Gio
    Armani Code (a.k.a black code)


    Davidoff Cool Water
    Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male


    Issey Miyake L'eau D'Issey Homme

    If anyone has any suggestions for

    other scents to try please post your suggestions. Especially if their essential oils (and where to get them) as I

    would like to field test oils as well.

    The fragrances you mention are indeed very popular

    right now, which could work for you or against you, or just be neutral since everyone else is weaing it.

    They are

    all very very light, and mostly citrusy and summery, with no lasting power. L'eau D'Issey is almost just alcohol

    and water with a splash of chemical scent.

    But preferences are preferences, and many people like these. Armani

    Code is not bad.

    Since I saw that you dropped some funds on the pheromones, I'll suggest some favorites of mine,

    which you won't find outside of Harrod's or online.

    Rabanne La Nuit - not expensive but great for the mones,

    esp with A7 and A1, one of my favorites. Hard to find except online. Sex on wheels with the above mix.

    Bvlgari

    Black - simply unique, if you wanna be, nightwear only.

    Ormonde Jayne Man - maybe something more suited to your

    style, day or night, and they have a great sample program. They're on Bond Street in London.

    Serge Lutens -

    Arabie, Musc Kublai Khan, Cuir Mauresque, Cedre. Be careful, some of his scents are average at best.

    The scents

    mentioned above are simply some favorites, among others. They are heavier that the ones you mentioned. They do a

    great job with the mones though. And its not likely you'll smell them on anyone else.

    Order samples

    here:
    http://www.perfumebay.com/index.html
    http://theperfumedcourt.com/
    http://www.orm<br /> <br /> ondeja...rfume-shop.php

    As for the naturals, my only worthwhile experience is with Pheros. Other

    naturals I've tried are not up to par.

    Check out the Aloeswood thread for more info. I do cover with single, or

    layered natural oils and it works great.
    Last edited by idesign; 11-09-2007 at 06:59 PM. Reason: adding stuff

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    Smile Day 4 and day 5

    I'll do a full

    post of day 4 (Friday) and day 5 (today, Saturday) tomorrow as I don't have must time at the moment.

    But

    briefly on day 4 a possibility of at least 2 hits just going to work and 2 hits at work with one being really major

    - mimicking of my movements, getting really close to me, only wanting to deal with me.

    Day 5 - tagged along

    with my mother and sister who were going to Oxford Street (London) to do some shopping - probably some hits but we

    had so much fun that I wasn't taking any notice like I should have.
    When you compete with others you discover your weaknesses. When you compete with yourself you find your strengths.
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