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    Jim, I heard that

    there's a fire in SD Co. Hope you're not affected.

    That thing turned into a nightmare, but I saw on the radar

    that some rain has blown in. Hope you're well.
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    I got through mostly with an

    unplanned vacation. One of the fires (the Harris, named after the Harris Ranch) started about 18 miles West of me

    and got blown 50 miles West to the populated areas. Where I was, I didn't even see smoke until Thursday when the

    winds shifted to the East, then that was only from about 2:00 PM until about 6:00 PM. As soon as they indicated my

    area was threatened, my phone lit up with offers from friends to stay at their place. One of the people I work with

    had their parents lose their house in the fire. For me, the fires 4 years ago were worse, I was without power for 5

    days.

    The odd thing is, I live in a "fire prone" area with lots of brush, and Rancho Santa Fe and Fairbanks

    Ranch (considered the most affluent neighborhood in the US, Bill Gates has 2 houses there) is all golf courses and

    concrete, yet they burned in the Witch (creek) fire, while my neighborhood should have been the one to burn, in both

    fires (the Harris and 4 years ago, the Cedar fire). Go figure.
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    I glad to hear that you are

    ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    I glad

    to hear that you are ok.
    Ditto Jim, now clear that underbrush!

    Now that I think of if what, other than

    arsonists and lightning, are the main culprits in these huge fires? Have they been this bad forever? Are they

    worse now than historically?

    I can't imagine a fire like that, but I can imagine hurricanes. Since I've been

    in NC I've been through a Cat 3 and two Cat 2s. Nasty business. Think of -sustained- winds of 125 mph, gusting

    toward 150. Sitting by a window I watched the roof of my shop building (20x50) blow up into the air, fold in half,

    and land 20 ft from the window I was sitting at.

    I think your fires would scare me worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Ditto Jim,

    now clear that underbrush!
    It is cleared!

    Problem was that the 70 mph winds on Saturday and

    Sunday took all of the dead needles out of the pines and put a 6" layer all over my yard.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim View Post
    It is

    cleared!

    Problem was that the 70 mph winds on Saturday and Sunday took all of the dead needles out of the

    pines and put a 6" layer all over my yard.
    Think of it as mulch, no more mowing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Ditto

    Jim, now clear that underbrush!

    Now that I think of if what, other than arsonists and lightning, are the main

    culprits in these huge fires? Have they been this bad forever? Are they worse now than historically?

    I think

    your fires would scare me worse.
    I'm from California and many of my old friends ask me about being afraid

    of tornados. You can run away from them and they give you plenty of warning. Earthquakes, on the other hand, sneak

    up from out of nowhere and you can't hide from them. Two major quakes in my lifetime was plenty.

    While many

    people are attempting to blame global warming for the fiercer forest fires, the truth is that fire suppression is

    the main culprit. Fires are a naturally occuring way for nature to clear out the underbrush and all the dead stuff

    that accumulates in the forest. Our preventing this naturally occuring clean up has left the forests as huge

    tinderboxes full of fuel . In other words, we did it too ourselves once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Think of it

    as mulch, no more mowing!
    I was thinking more along the lines of "tinder".

    The latest numbers

    say that the area burned so far in just my county is 1/2 the area of state of Rhode Island, about 1/3 of our

    county.

    A lot of this area was burned just 4 years ago in the "Cedar" fire.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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