Anyone over 30 in here? Ill tell you how an age management clinic made me 25 again.

**Mathias the OK** · 10-09-2007, 05:05 PM

Before I waste a whole lot on my story and how going to an

age management clinic and getting hormone replacement therapy has turned me into a 25 year old... stronger, faster,

healthier, I wanted to see if there we're a few folks on this board that were over 30 (You have to be over 30 to

get the therapy)

**Mtnjim** · 10-09-2007, 05:25 PM

There are a lot of people way

over 30 on this board.

**belgareth** · 10-09-2007, 05:38 PM

Yeah, a few of us are quite a

bit over 30. Glad to hear about it, so long as you aren't advertising or trying to sell something.

**gaf** · 10-11-2007, 04:48 PM

Holy crap, I just realised I'm

closer to 40 then 30.
Help!

**belgareth** · 10-11-2007, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by gaf

Holy crap, I

just realised I'm closer to 40 then 30.
Help!

So, if you round the number that makes you 40, right?

**gaf** · 10-12-2007, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by belgareth

So, if you

round the number that makes you 40, right?

Careful,
Them is fighting words in my part of the

world.
(for the record I'm 38)

**blind12** · 01-11-2008, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mathias the

OK;203946

Before I waste a whole lot on my story and how going to an age management clinic and getting hormone

replacement therapy has turned me into a 25 year old... stronger, faster, healthier, I wanted to see if there

we're a few folks on this board that were over 30 (You have to be over 30 to get the therapy)

Umm...

I wouldn't consider hormone replacement until sometime in the 50ies

Until then, hormone boosters,

aromatase inhibitors etc should do the job ?

**Chai Tea** · 01-12-2008, 11:42 AM

Last year, I was solicited by a

very charming physician and his marketing guy. The one with the sexy voice. For a program that had caught the

attention of the media. [I admit I had something to do with inviting them to contact me. . .]

The media had

interviewed a small group of people, all over 50, 60 & 70, who were saying just that: I feel 25 again, can exercise

harder, recover super-quickly, need less sleep, have more elasticity in my skin. . .and surely there was a

make-love-all-night testimonial, and maybe even one that had a rock for a metaphor. I don't remember.

The

physician owns an exclusive clinic that looks like a casino from the outside, and for 6k will give you an initial

blood panel and if (and only if) your levels of HGH and testosterone are borderline, or low, [conventionally these

decline with age, but I must add, not necessarily] then for 20k per year you can join their supplementation program.

Get the hormones, get the injections, get the nutritional support at no extra cost, and see the doctor drive his

Rolls Royce.

I might have tried it at a dollar 98. But I've been to the gym. Steroids are steroids. Of

course they make you lose fat and gain lean body mass. That's what the Arnold Classic is all about. Guys and gals

on the cover of Muscle and Fitness do not look the way they do because they drink a whey shake every day in addition

to their workouts. They just aren't talking about feeling 25 because they are busy working to look 25. Besides, I

have read that it's really uncomfortable to have to lose almost all your body fat if you are a competing

bodybuilder. It's an enormous stress on the body to lose almost all fat and glycogen storage. [I've heard some

bodybuilders binge pasta right before going on stage to give themselves a fluid boost, which makes the pumped

muscles appear even bigger.]

Runway models do not look anorexic because they are not

anorexic.

Digression alert: code red, get back to the subject

I cannot say that HGH and testos

wouldn't feel like a miracle, if one doesn't feel great as is.

If a man needs testosterone, then, to my

surprise, [and counterintuitive to me, too], supplementation [your family doctor can give you t-gel patches or

injections] can calm an anxiety prone man, when t-levels are compromised [by fat is my only observation]. Fat cells

produce estrogen. Fatter fat cells produce more estrogen than skinnier fat cells. So I've read. That's why

keeping your body fat percentage low "raises" your T-levels. Lose fat, gain muscle, lose estrogen. Ratio of T to E

goes up. Male or female, doesn't matter.

I'm a news junkie. Steroids are not just feel great

supplementation, when indicated. They are very controversial in pro- and amateur sports right now. And I bet they

will become controversial as a personal matter. I'm going to write that down on a little piece of paper here and

if it comes true I can prove I called it. If you have 20k to drop to feel 25, then you have 20k to drop to feel

25.

I understand steroids are dangerous. And I always hear the word "heart" associated with that claim. But

I don't know anything about the risks to the organs on super-hormone supplementation.

Who doesn't want to

have short, not unpleasant recovery and refractory?

But I can't even say I'd want to feel 25 again. And

whatever happens to men, many [I mean many] women go into horny turbo at perimenopause. And that ain't nothin' to

sneeze at.

. . .uh, so to speak.

With proper care, nourishment, compassion, a healthy inner life [at

what I have, to me ingeniously, heard called the 4-level-bio-body-suit: molecular, cellular, organ systems [the

brain especially], and the seen body and its related space,], I am so much happier and feel better at 50 than I ever

did at 25. No kidding.

My view.