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    Default Anyone over 30 in here? Ill tell you how an age management clinic made me 25 again.

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    Before I waste a whole lot on my story and how going to an

    age management clinic and getting hormone replacement therapy has turned me into a 25 year old... stronger, faster,

    healthier, I wanted to see if there we're a few folks on this board that were over 30 (You have to be over 30 to

    get the therapy)
    Women will never be equal to men until they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer gut, and still think they are sexy.

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    There are a lot of people way

    over
    30 on this board.
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    Yeah, a few of us are quite a

    bit over 30. Glad to hear about it, so long as you aren't advertising or trying to sell something.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Holy crap, I just realised I'm

    closer to 40 then 30.
    Help!
    early 40's white male or or

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaf View Post
    Holy crap, I

    just realised I'm closer to 40 then 30.
    Help!
    So, if you round the number that makes you 40, right?
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    So, if you

    round the number that makes you 40, right?
    Careful,
    Them is fighting words in my part of the

    world.
    (for the record I'm 38)
    early 40's white male or or

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    By extending the same

    argument, you could round my age to 100. Don't let a silly number bother you. It doesn't make all that much

    difference if you take care of yourself.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Don't let a

    silly number bother you. It doesn't make all that much difference if you take care of

    yourself.
    Exactly.

    I can still shake my booty and feed myself without a straw so I'm

    happy!
    early 40's white male or or

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    I think I hit my peak physically in

    my early 50s. I'm 57 now and still feeling great, but not quite as strong as when I was a few years ago. Anyway,

    when I was in my 40s I didn't consider myself any older (or more mature probably) than anyone of any age I might

    have run into. Lots of exercise, good food, stuff like that helps.
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    Over 30? What's 30, I forget.

    . .?

    Ditto about numbers. I am just as confused and fascinated as I was at 20, but I'm having a lot more

    absolute pleasure being it.

    I get younger as I get older in numbers. I suspect, also, that this is

    immaturity out of the closet.

    But if I hang out with anyone, it's with middle aged juvenile delinquents

    who like a good laugh, don't feel guilty about much anymore, don't "communicate our feelings," don't blame our

    parents for anything, think the Beatles' Let It Be is a church hymn, live for double entendres [but don't have a

    clue what "entendre" is], share stupid porn phone downloads, are highly intelligent but committed to hiding it in

    order to pass at bowling alleys and taverns, have children and stepchildren who fail to launch, enjoy sex fully, are

    loyal, wear seatbelts, don't take themselves too seriously, no longer have a clue about who to vote fore, and a

    bunch of other stuff I can't remember right now. . .

    As for me, I'm stuck in a Fellini satire [the old

    Kirosawa] and often simply stare into space for a moment wondering if anyone is about to yell "cut." They never

    do.

    Oh, and Our Wonderful House is called: How I Came to Live In an Archeological Dig. It's wonderfully

    alive with all the people I love who have danced in my kitchen, left hidden gifts, worked their art, threw a nerf

    brick at an NFL referee, drank too much beer or whisky, not drank enough beer or whisky, searched for that scrap of

    paper with my screen names and passwords for sites I don't remember being on, are paranoid that someone will

    discover that the screen names are me, sang songs, hugged seriously, butt bumped, picked up the phone and spent

    150$US buying the Flower Power CD collection during an infomercial, watched the cat barf up a hairball during

    breakfast coffee, laughed until we cried all summer at the next door dog going dog-wild wanting to taste sticks,

    shoes, beer, peanut butter, bananas, your cell phone, watched 347 documentaries on the History channel on Hitler, or

    done 87 loads of laundry until we had to buy a new dryer [hi, Mom!].

    And, note I didn't even mention the

    sex. That would just be TMI.

    For this purely amazing life I gave up living in Houston and Atlanta where

    there is great food and great music. And moved to Erie PA.

    Oh, sorry. . .just a moment of reverie. I

    don't seriously think any soul is interested in hearing anything about me. But I'm a good listener until it comes

    to descriptions of physical ailments, stories about dogs or grandchildren, cookie recipes, or the latest colonoscopy

    preparation procedures.

    See what you have to look forward to? Did I mention the sex is

    great?


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    You don't want to hear about my

    corny corns? I thought you'd be a good member here....

    I do like your emphasis on sex and beer.

    Chuckle...

    I'm stuck between an "8 1/2" cafe and a "Ran" mask. Cut, cut... CUT! But wait, open your eyes and there are

    cherry blossoms covering your path.

    Don't be fooled anyone, 50 is the new 50, and there's no archaeologically

    better place to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathias the

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    Before I waste a whole lot on my story and how going to an age management clinic and getting hormone

    replacement therapy has turned me into a 25 year old... stronger, faster, healthier, I wanted to see if there

    we're a few folks on this board that were over 30 (You have to be over 30 to get the therapy)
    Umm...

    I wouldn't consider hormone replacement until sometime in the 50ies
    Until then, hormone boosters,

    aromatase inhibitors etc should do the job ?

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    Last year, I was solicited by a

    very charming physician and his marketing guy. The one with the sexy voice. For a program that had caught the

    attention of the media. [I admit I had something to do with inviting them to contact me. . .]

    The media had

    interviewed a small group of people, all over 50, 60 & 70, who were saying just that: I feel 25 again, can exercise

    harder, recover super-quickly, need less sleep, have more elasticity in my skin. . .and surely there was a

    make-love-all-night testimonial, and maybe even one that had a rock for a metaphor. I don't remember.

    The

    physician owns an exclusive clinic that looks like a casino from the outside, and for 6k will give you an initial

    blood panel and if (and only if) your levels of HGH and testosterone are borderline, or low, [conventionally these

    decline with age, but I must add, not necessarily] then for 20k per year you can join their supplementation program.

    Get the hormones, get the injections, get the nutritional support at no extra cost, and see the doctor drive his

    Rolls Royce.

    I might have tried it at a dollar 98. But I've been to the gym. Steroids are steroids. Of

    course they make you lose fat and gain lean body mass. That's what the Arnold Classic is all about. Guys and gals

    on the cover of Muscle and Fitness do not look the way they do because they drink a whey shake every day in addition

    to their workouts. They just aren't talking about feeling 25 because they are busy working to look 25. Besides, I

    have read that it's really uncomfortable to have to lose almost all your body fat if you are a competing

    bodybuilder. It's an enormous stress on the body to lose almost all fat and glycogen storage. [I've heard some

    bodybuilders binge pasta right before going on stage to give themselves a fluid boost, which makes the pumped

    muscles appear even bigger.]

    Runway models do not look anorexic because they are not

    anorexic.

    Digression alert: code red, get back to the subject

    I cannot say that HGH and testos

    wouldn't feel like a miracle, if one doesn't feel great as is.

    If a man needs testosterone, then, to my

    surprise, [and counterintuitive to me, too], supplementation [your family doctor can give you t-gel patches or

    injections] can calm an anxiety prone man, when t-levels are compromised [by fat is my only observation]. Fat cells

    produce estrogen. Fatter fat cells produce more estrogen than skinnier fat cells. So I've read. That's why

    keeping your body fat percentage low "raises" your T-levels. Lose fat, gain muscle, lose estrogen. Ratio of T to E

    goes up. Male or female, doesn't matter.

    I'm a news junkie. Steroids are not just feel great

    supplementation, when indicated. They are very controversial in pro- and amateur sports right now. And I bet they

    will become controversial as a personal matter. I'm going to write that down on a little piece of paper here and

    if it comes true I can prove I called it. If you have 20k to drop to feel 25, then you have 20k to drop to feel

    25.

    I understand steroids are dangerous. And I always hear the word "heart" associated with that claim. But

    I don't know anything about the risks to the organs on super-hormone supplementation.

    Who doesn't want to

    have short, not unpleasant recovery and refractory?

    But I can't even say I'd want to feel 25 again. And

    whatever happens to men, many [I mean many] women go into horny turbo at perimenopause. And that ain't nothin' to

    sneeze at. . . .uh, so to speak.

    With proper care, nourishment, compassion, a healthy inner life [at

    what I have, to me ingeniously, heard called the 4-level-bio-body-suit: molecular, cellular, organ systems [the

    brain especially], and the seen body and its related space,], I am so much happier and feel better at 50 than I ever

    did at 25. No kidding.

    My view.

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