Pheros feedback

[idesign]

Got my shipment of

Pheros today and have to applaud Bruce for again providing great service.

Thought that this new

thread would be a good place for Pheros buyers to post their impressions.

First impressions: Nothing less than

amazing. I've been smelling it on my wrist for over 3 hours now and every time its different. There's a

consistent musk note after the opening of fresh woods and spice, but not at all overpowering, and lots of other

things come through over time. Complex!

To be completely honest, the first 30-60 seconds after application there

was some subtle note I didn't like and thought, Oh No! Nothing strong, but a scent that didn't seem to fit. It

died very quickly, and its not uncommon for me to not like a fragrance fresh on my skin. Even EOs.

As it matured

I realized that I was experiencing a half-dozen of my favorite colognes all rolled into one, and even better because

there was none of the brash chemical assault and subsequent shallowness. Pheros is warm from the beginning and

keeps inviting you in.

Very well done Dr. I now know why Pheros has the reputation it does.

[DrSmellThis]

Thanks for your detailed

feedback, idesign. Your analysis is accurate, except for the praise, which is neither accurate nor innaccurate.



Frankly, I agree totally about the one annoying note. I know exactly what you mean, and spent countless hours over

months in damage control trying to subtract it out or disguise it, with only modest success. It was a batch, not a

formula, so you're stuck with it.

It came from a mistake in adding one ingredient -- just the slightest touch

-- that I never should have added. It was much worse at first, trust me; and I was very depressed until progress was

made to "heal it". It is part of the top note, so it does go away, like you said.

Oh well, lots of good things

have a flaw. The best I can say is that I managed to make it a minor aspect over time. Like you said.

The fact

that it smells different every time you smell it bucks every trend in contemporary perfuming, which tends toward

simple "consorts" that always smell the same. The professional "Nose" who smelled it had that as his primary

criticism. So it's kind of guerrilla perfume in that way.

Anyway, in order to have it be the same all the

time, you have to age every oil just the right amount of time, which means you have to be working for a multimillion

dollar international perfume corporation with a huge budget set aside for your particular product. A small detail.



Personally, I don't mind the kaleidoscope effect. Makes life more interesting; more organic. That's the way

life is; and the way people are too.

[idesign]

Personally I LOVE the

"kaleidoscope effect", and that's a great term for it. And its unpredictability always pleases.

The funny note

at the beginning is not that big a deal, and I hesitated to even mention it. You have to really pay attention at

just the right time to even catch it. Its so fleeting, and in no way detracts from the experience.

I like the

way the scent lingers like a memory. I've noticed this with EOs too. Even after it totally leaves the skin my

nose (or brain) registers the scent at random times. It happened this morning 2 or 3 times before I applied it for

the day. Does this make any sense?

Hope others will chime in. Whaddya think guys/gals?

[DrSmellThis]

I like

the way the scent lingers like a memory. I've noticed this with EOs too. Even after it totally leaves the skin my

nose (or brain) registers the scent at random times. It happened this morning 2 or 3 times before I applied it for

the day. Does this make any sense?

Yes. The reason you remember the smell so well is because of the analog

pheromones, which have corresponding places in the brain and olfactory system that have evolved to process them.



Your brain is already hard wired to process valerian root, sandalwood, almond, cumin, floral elements, benzoin,

and the musks; to name some examples. Other scents in Pheros, like real citrus and honey, are memorable

because they are processed like food.

This is why people often remark that it smells "familiar", and that they

remember vividly how it smells. The same can be said for synthetic lab pheromones, as recent research posted in this

forum suggested.

If your smell creates a lasting impression, hopefully you will too.

Commercial perfumes,

on the other hand, are made from tweaked petroleum derivatives and the like; often brand new chemicals that our

neurological/olfactory systems are not designed to process. They are going to register as strange rather than

familiar, and are going to be comparitively easy to forget.

[Guy101]

Well, I have not tried Pheros

before, but is it an oil base or what?

[DrSmellThis]

Well, I

have not tried Pheros before, but is it an oil base or what?

Alcohol and water.

[idesign]

Your

brain is already hard wired to process valerian root, sandalwood, almond, cumin, floral elements, benzoin, and the

musks; to name some examples. Other scents in Pheros, like real citrus and honey, are memorable because they

are processed like food.

Commercial perfumes, on the other hand, are made from tweaked petroleum derivatives

and the like; often brand new chemicals that our neurological/olfactory systems are not designed to process. They

are going to register as strange rather than familiar, and are going to be comparitively easy to

forget.

Thanks Doc, this makes perfect sense.

I've been reading that EOs have such complex molecular

structures that many (or even most) oils have not even been broken down completely. It would seem that all

the constituents of any natural scent would play a role in our perception, esp at subliminal levels.

To

isolate a particular compound for its pleasure factor would eliminate the whole, which is the most amazing part.

There are some commercial frags that I really like, but I don't remember them until I put them on again.



Before I hijack another thread, my own even! I will say that Pheros is more than just a great smelling scent.

Your comment about it being more "organic" and more "like people" is just right.

And its becoming addictive.

[CAtriathlete]

I got mine today and I'm

in heaven! I love the complexity and the way it evolves over time on my skin.

I've never been a fan of scents

that had such spice notes, but this truly rocks.

Bravo!

Now I may need to get some concentrate for the

future...

-CAt

[Tiger4]

When did you

order it? I preordered mine 21 Sept. and it still hasn't arrived yet.

Got

my shipment of Pheros today and have to applaud Bruce for again providing great service.

[WorkingMann]

Does it come in the bottle

shown in the picture with the cork or what does it come in?

[Gone]

Does it

come in the bottle shown in the picture with the cork or what does it come in?

I haven't seen the

pictures, but mine came in a little spherical bottle of clear glass, with a screw top. No label.

[WorkingMann]

I

haven't seen the pictures, but mine came in a little spherical bottle of clear glass, with a screw top. No

label.

Does it have a syringe or anything?

[Gorgar]

I got my first positive

non-solicited reaction from my wife today. I had to pick her up from work and drive her over to the doctor's office

this afternoon. Before I left I applied a liberal dose of Pheros. When I jumped in my Dodge I noticed a half used

packet of SOE in the ashtray from Friday. I added a very small amount to the back of my neck and the back of

each hand, maybe 3 drops total.

My wife hopped in and the first thing she said was "You smell good!" Funny thing

is that I've worn Pheros off and on for the past few weeks and she never said anything unless I asked if she liked

the scent.

Well, I'll call it a hit!

[idesign]

Good job on two counts! I wear

SoE/Pheros at least 3x/week during the day. Its a world beater mix for happy/friendly. C7 is too chatty for

work.

I wear Pheros alone and get compliments, but not like mixed with a -mone product. I don't know what

effect is being had on what, but they do work together very well.

For the nose, maybe the sharpness of the -mone

excites the calm of the Pheros, or Pheros wraps the -mones into a welcoming blanket. Either way, the result is

good, and repeatable.

Otherwise, what the Dr. said above makes sense. A natural scent designed for "sexy

universal" could play subtly in a thousand different ways when mixed with a -mone.

[Gorgar]

I have a question. Would it be

possible to add something to Pheros to keep it from separating? Would a drop of unscented dish washing detergent do

the trick or would it spoil the mix?

[idesign]

An emulsifier would blend the

two, but I remember reading that DrSmellThis decided against using it for some reason, probably adding an unnatural

element was undesirable.

He should weigh in on this, but personally I don't mind the settling. The few seconds

it takes to shake it up allows an anticipation of how good it will smell.

[DrSmellThis]

I have a

question. Would it be possible to add something to Pheros to keep it from separating? Would a drop of unscented dish

washing detergent do the trick or would it spoil the mix?

I'm hesitant to make a recommendation,

since I decided against experimenting with it.

I just shake the bottle a couple times. It's ugly, but

non-commercial things sometimes are.

[nbnbtc]

just got my Pheros. it seems

lighter than the old version i had, but still just as lovely. it is like wrapping myself up in a warm comfy

blanket.