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    Exclamation Attracting My Wife - Help!

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    Hi,



    Here's the situation. My wife feels like she love's me, but is no longer "in love" with me. She is not longer

    attracted to me. I'm hoping that something from LS could help.

    Please note that I said help and not fix. I've

    already searched the forum for this topic, and I noticed a lot of "pheremones are not a fix, you need to address

    what's really wrong, blah blah. Mones might only buy you some more time, but they won't cure anything.."

    Trust

    me, I am working on the other aspects. I'm doing a lot of personal work, research, and much more, so please try to

    stick with my question (unless I really am missing something here). My sincerest Thanks,

    Here goes..:

    23 yr

    old male (popular at work, really laid back, not an alpha)
    5' 6"
    140 lbs (i've lost some weight

    recently..working on it)
    My wife is 22
    About 5' 9"
    155lbs

    We both work together (is there anything i should

    use at work also?) Things have been less than excellant for a little under a year (having our first child may have

    had a role). Married almost 3 yrs. She moved out about 3 weeks ago...

    Last week went on a short vacation (nothing

    changed, and we both agreed that wasn't why we were going). I used some Pherone M11, with no noticeable increase in

    attraction. I tried different doses from dabs to drops from clothes to skin..when I got to three drops, she told me

    she didn't like how I smelled. (i alternated between tommy bahama and Realm as covers) She seemed more comfortable

    and talkative and I felt better, but who knows, it could have been just getting away and breathing in some mountain

    air .

    Anyway, I'm looking for a spark. Something that could maybe make her second guess whether or not she is

    attracted to me. I feel like as long as she believes that she is not, she won't be as receptive to changes im

    making... I think you get the picture.

    I don't know if this is helpful at all, but she also likes to wear a

    healthy dose of perfume. She's the girl that always smells good, and sometimes, you don't have to be very close to

    notice it. (mostly perfumes, but often bath and body works)

    Any help (or advice) is truly appreciated. Thank

    you.
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    To build sexual

    tension,try TE or A7(I heard it works well as a pair bonder)

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    Excellent! Scented or Unscented?

    Any reccomendations for dosing? Thank you.

    Anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkotb View Post
    Excellent! Scented or Unscented? Any reccomendations for dosing? Thank you.

    Anyone

    else?
    My g/f still reacts favourably to 1 or 2 drops Alpha 7, with a good

    spray of nice cologne.


    I have the unscented Alpha 7 and it

    smells absolutley delicious with its sexy smell.


    It is my

    number 1 favourite pheromone and now i have just run out waaaa waaaaaa, I have been wearing it nearly every day

    alone and in mixes as it is a great mixer, this stuff just wears so well.


    Thank goodness i have some Alpha 7 mixes stashed under my bed role.
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    Follow Terry's advice,he

    is a very wise one.If you are trying the edge just search for recommended dosages as I am starting from scratch with

    testing edge(got it from the newbie kit along with SPMO),SPMO just throws me off and doesn't seem to agree with

    me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    My g/f still reacts favourably to 1 or 2 drops Alpha

    7, with a good spray of nice cologne.


    I have the unscented

    Alpha 7 and it smells absolutley delicious with its sexy smell.


    It is my number 1 favourite pheromone and now i have just run out waaaa waaaaaa, I have been

    wearing it nearly every day alone and in mixes as it is a great mixer, this stuff just wears so well.



    Thank goodness i have some Alpha 7 mixes stashed under my bed

    role.
    I agree completely Terry. I had a great night out last weekend with A7. It

    mixed so well with my chosen cover and the evening was so darned pleasant. No overt hits but every woman I talked

    to exuded intimacy in both body and subtle verbal hints. I was with a date, and her responses were very positive.


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    nkotb, this is a shot in the

    dark, but if you're intent on using mones to save a marriage you might try A1 (androstedienone) for its

    trust/comfort vibe. However, you should know that effective use of mones requires experimentation and practice.



    Genuine best wishes,
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    nkotb, this is a shot in the dark, but if you're intent on using mones

    to save a marriage you might try A1 (androstedienone) for its trust/comfort vibe. However, you should know that

    effective use of mones requires experimentation and practice.

    Genuine best wishes,
    Greg
    If there is is hint of magic in the air then Alpha 7 is sure to bring it to the surface, And

    with a twinkle of Androstedienone added she will be purring like a kitten. ( sex kitten )
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    If there is is hint of magic in the air then Alpha 7

    is sure to bring it to the surface, And with a twinkle of Androstedienone added she will be purring like a kitten. (

    sex kitten )
    I couldn't agree more: A1 for creating comfort, A7 for sexual chemistry.



    That's my favorite combo when I'm with my g/f-- it works every time.

    -CAt

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    Thanks everyone for all the

    helpful information. I'm thinking of ordering A7 and J.P. Gaultier cover scent. I was looking around for A1, but

    all I could find was the pure mone in the kits/supplies section... I'm not sure if that's what you guys were

    reffering to. If it is, then the $80 price tag will keep it on the wish list for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    I agree

    completely Terry. I had a great night out last weekend with A7. It mixed so well with my chosen cover and the

    evening was so darned pleasant. No overt hits but every woman I talked to exuded intimacy in both body and subtle

    verbal hints. I was with a date, and her responses were very positive.
    What's your age, A7 dosage,

    and application points, ID?

    And if anyone else peeps in that favors A7, what have you found to

    be your sweet spot (drops)?

    Thanks one, thanks all!

    nkotb, whenever I wear heavy dosages

    of TE:cologne 50:50 and two drops of A-1, I get lots of "What in the world is that cologne that you

    wear!?!?!?"
    I always ask if I put on too much, and they say, "No, you smell good!" and I've gotten

    "No, you smell good! Real good!" All seem to be around your ladies' age. You can probably pull that off

    without the A-1 ... that Newbee package of musk and TE at 50:50 at three sprays does a number on young ones, too!

    vbmenu_register("postmenu_203132", true);
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    At 1 or 2 drops A7 is so sweet 4 me, funny thing though i have noticed something strange when i have

    2 drops on the average type female up to a 5 or a 6 shows little real interest but for some reason the sixes to tens

    like the more stunning sexier women are more easily out under the Alpha 7's spell.


    I dont get it but thats the pattern that

    seems to be emerging for me anyway.


    Im not complaining though.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    I used all sorts of mone products

    on my ex-wife--TE, NPA, C7, SOE, IMPI, , etc.--to no avail. Now she still cared for me but the fire was

    pretty much out. Even with mones it seemed impossible to change her hardened perception of me. However, one mone did

    actually work well on her--A-1. Didn't save the marriage but allowed us to hangout hours longer without fighting,

    and helped put her in a better mood during her monthly punishment. So I had measured success but unfortunately it

    didn't turn her into a hubby worshipping horndog. We're still friends and even take vacations together once in a

    while.

    The big thing that came of all this, 3.5 years later, is the mones that failed my marriage have proved

    extremely useful in my social and romantic life. I use them almost daily. However they work best on strangers,

    casual friends and new dates.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Thumbs up The best cause ever.

    A1 is

    usually not for beginners. BUT.. in your case I say it's the best answer for your specific needs.
    It's known as a

    pair-bonder more than a "first-time" attractor.
    I use it with my g/f and it works wonders and wonderfull romance.



    Also, taking your age into account, I'd advice SOE and TE. I myself use EE (Edge Essentials *Arouser Blend...

    which is basicly almost the very same thing as TE) & SOE unscented, and A1.

    I'll refer you to a great post I

    wrote a while ago as a reply to a newbie at your age (which just happens to also be my age - I'm also 23). That

    post has a few very important links to read that let you know almost everything you need to know when starting out

    with `mones. Just take into account that although I advised most of the people there not to try A1 right away - I

    think for your specific case it's THE thing.

    So, here is

    The Link To That Post.

    Also,

    here's a link to a

    thread that tells you a bit more about A1
    .
    I use it myself and as I said - It's truly wonderfull.

    For

    your case again... You might indeed want to have Alpha-7 in your stock for those days you want to add some sexual

    kick (or tension). Just be sure to first start small on the dosage as it is easier for us young guys to OD on `none

    (which is the `mone in A7) - as we produce more of it naturally than the 30+ year olds. So figure out your dosage by

    starting low and going up bit by bit `till you find what feels best.
    You'll read more about this at The Minimalist

    Manifesto (linked at the post I gave you above).

    I find your cause very much worth it and I scincerily hope the

    `mones will help you both out
    As you said yourself - They're only there to give you an edge, so stay aware of

    her reactions and make the best out of the opportunities you get. You'll do fine

    to the

    forums. And of course feel free to ask any questions you still have. There are many experienced people around here

    with great will to help

    Oh and remember that the right `mones for you depend on factors like your age, your

    wifes' age, your personal `mone-signature, the humidity at your area etc. etc.
    You'll find much more info about

    this at the linked post above

    I hope this helps... I haven't yet heared of a cause more justified

    than this one. Tons of Good Luck!!



    P.S.
    Personally, I'd advise you a specific mix which I happen to

    use almost daily. See the green text in this

    post
    . Or simply read the whole post... for you I think it might be a usefull thing to do.
    I advise you to use

    that mix on an almost daily basis, and once in a while exchange the TE with Alpha-7 and take her out for a night

    that can lead to sexual tension. Just to spice things out. Terry once mentioned that changing your `mone signature

    once in a while can make the woman curious and give you the mystery edge... I think with your needs - you only need

    to do that once in a while in a way that'll spice things up.. that way could be implemented very well with A7



    So to conclude:
    If you can afford it: Get The Beginner Special (ask to substitude the TE for EE

    or just go with the TE... your choice), SOE (you have to choose for yourself if you want scented or

    unscented), A1, and Alpha-7.
    If you can't afford that many products, just go with The Beginner

    Special and the SOE in my opinion. Or if that doesn't fit you, maybe go with some A1 and A7.
    I hope I ain't

    confusing you with all these options.
    Keep us posted. and again mate: Good Luck!

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    Gegogi.. you use IMPI?
    I

    recently bought IMPI Original and haven't used it yet. Any chance you can tell us a bit about it?

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    I tested a bottle the other year,

    so they may have tweaked it since then. It behaved similar to a weakened TE. Probably good for younger guys but I

    need full strength. My main problem with IMPI is I didn't care for the scent, and that scent was difficult to

    cover.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    The scent feels ok I

    think. But ain't it suposed to be a new tech? How come you feel it's like weakened TE?

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    Once again, I'd like to thank you

    all for all the responses. I'll let you know how it goes...

    I ended up getting A7 and a bottle of cover scent.

    After seeing all these posts though I might also pick up a beginner special and some A1....next paycheck.

    A1 half

    strength is ok too right? I just need to use twice as much?

    Tenaciousblade, I really appreciate your posting.

    It's especially comforting to get advice from someone my age.
    I'll get to reading those links now...

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    I am facing a simlar problem as

    the orginal poster and wanted to get some feedback.

    My wife is 28 and I am 30. She suffers from depression

    which does not make things any easier.

    We live in Los Angeles (so you can guess the climate).

    I had

    ordered RM before I found the forum. THen after reading here I bought several products figuring that since I have

    limited time to get the spark back that I should error on the side of caution.

    So I also bought (thanks to this

    thread) SOE, TE, A1 & A7.

    Going to try tonight so wanted to get some mixing points.

    I love the smell of RM

    (everything just arrived). So I am wondering if I could do a RM, SOE, A1 mix? (as everything else is

    unsecneted).

    But like I said I have all of the above and limited time to try to get the spark back So I am

    willing to do whatever it takes to save our marriage.

    Anyway, great advice here so far, just looking for

    something tailored to our ages and climate given the products that I ordered. So any advice such as how much to mix

    (i'd rather mix on body then in a spray thing as I am not that skilled at measuring and what not lol) and what to

    mix would be so greatly appreciated.

    I know my problem is worse because depression is thrown into the mix and as

    her psychiatrist told me, depressed people tend to push away people that mgiht make them happy, I know if we can at

    least get a spark of intimacy back (derpression meds ahd a lot to do with it going away...) then we can work on

    rebuilding. But without that spark I think she will just give up

    So thanks in advance and I really do

    appreciate it. Also thanks for being kind to the OP, I probably would have been afraid to post if not for the

    posstive responses.

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    Rubio,

    A resource that I am

    finding to be helpful is divorcebusting.com
    Obviously, you have a very unique situation, but you may find help

    there. I have hired a coach, but even if you don't, their forum is worth checking out. Like love-scent there is a

    ton of good info and experience over there to learn from. Good Luck.

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    Good luck indeed Rubio, wish you

    the best.

    Thinking about you and nkotb there's really no advice to be given that's different from pheromone

    advice to anyone: start small, experiment and observe. There's a lot of good info in this thread and should be a

    good starting point for you. You have great products, all of which I've used with success.

    I disagree ever so

    slightly with Gegogi in that I've had good success with mones and 2 former GFs. Of course that's different than a

    marriage, and we were never estranged. I absolutely agree with him, and others, about A1. I've used it with TE

    with good results and based on tips in this thread will use it with A7 in the future.

    As with anyone starting out

    its best to use products alone before mixing to evaluate effectiveness of each product. With mixes the

    possibilities are endless, and you need to know how each one works on its own.

    One favorite mix: 1 drop A1

    spread on arms with 4" SoE on each wrist and 2" on neck and a drop of TE spread around. I like to put the TE where

    she will pick it up when things become intimate. I've also had good results from this leaving out the SoE, but it

    helps break the ice and get her chatty. I apply it and let it settle on my skin, then cover with cologne or EO.

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    I know this is going to

    sound like a strange plan, but here it goes. Ask a male friend, that your wife has not met, to run across you two in

    a bar or night club. Have him pick a fight with you for no reason. You know, "Hey you stepped on my foot" or "Why

    did you bump into me?" Then you will stand up to him and end it with simple reasoning and no fighting. He will just

    be scared of you for what he thinks you can do to him. Your wife will see how well you handle the situation and

    think you are the Alpha Dog. I saw this plan in the movie "Enough" and it is thoroughly plausible. Just a last ditch

    effort to try if all else fails with your wife.

    Good luck,

    Sweet Thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57 View Post
    What's

    your age, A7 dosage, and application points, ID?

    And if anyone else peeps in that favors A7,

    what have you found to be your sweet spot (drops)?

    Thanks one, thanks all!
    Mobley! I

    just now saw your post tucked in among the masses, sorry I didn't see it before. I'm 49 and, like you, terribly

    handsome. I put a drop of A7 on my neck and another 1/2 drop on each wrist, covered it with La Nuit, a dark and

    leathery cologne. It blended so well I'll repeat it, with maybe a touch of A1 or SoE. I've found A7 to be a

    great standalone up to 2 drops total. I OD easily on -none.

    Nice to make your acquaintance,
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet

    thing;203479
    I know this is going to sound like a strange plan, but here it goes. Ask a male friend, that your wife

    has not met, to run across you two in a bar or night club. Have him pick a fight with you for no reason. You know,

    "Hey you stepped on my foot" or "Why did you bump into me?" Then you will stand up to him and end it with simple

    reasoning and no fighting. He will just be scared of you for what he thinks you can do to him. Your wife will see

    how well you handle the situation and think you are the Alpha Dog. I saw this plan in the movie "Enough" and it is

    thoroughly plausible.
    You must be kiddin`.
    I mean feel free n` all but personally... I

    really don't think that's such a great idea.
    Did you ever tried such a thing with any success?

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    I tried a mix of SOE, A1 and A7

    tonight.

    Things were different, more friendly (laughing at my dumb jokes like when we first started dating), and

    I feel like I should have thought of trying this a month ago... Took about 3 hours before this though.

    So this

    is something I am going to have to keep experimeting on.

    I did read the cookbook but a lot of it is still

    confusing to me.

    Can RM be used with my SOE A1 A7 combo? Or is that going to make it risk an OD?

    I

    basiacly followed T-Blade's green text for SOE application, but I just but a drop of A1 on neck and A7 on wrist.

    Not sure if I should try more.


    Another odd thing though. I can't smell anything on any of the products I

    bought (accept the cover scents when I finaly apply them). Which is odd because I have a really good nose. I

    don't think there is anything wrong with them given the results, but is it possible I just can't smell it? or am

    I just being way to conservative on my drop.


    Last questions for tonight.

    1. How long do you think this

    application wouldl ast before needing more? (meaning should I be fine all night if I apply around 3pm?)

    2. Do

    you think that it would be wise to rinse at sleep then reapply before partner wakes up? THat way they wake up next

    to smell and furthur associate it with you? (but waitting until early morning so no risk of OD)


    THanks again

    everyone. Trying to learn as much as I can so I won't be such a newb. But if anyone has ever tested RM with SOE

    and what not please let me know, did a search and could not find the answer!

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    Exclamation Each of us and his own best mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubio View Post
    I basiacly followed T-Blade's green text for SOE application, but I just but a

    drop of A1 on neck and A7 on wrist. Not sure if I should try more.
    The fact that it works for me, doesn't

    necessarily mean it's the exact mix-formula that'll work for you mate
    If you feel you need more of a

    specific `mone-product - I think it might be good for you to try it.
    We each have our own natural-`mone-signature.

    Mine is different than yours, and therefor, your best mix might not be the same as mine.
    As you said - you should

    do more experimenting

    I hope this helps


    There are people who don't seem to smell the `mones.

    I also consider myself to have a very good nose, yet I barely smell the cat-piss odor that others sometimes describe

    TE to have.
    IMHO, the way to measure if you're application amounts are right for you, is by the results you get.

    But bare in mind that it might take time for the results to be conclusive... here again, come the trial & experiment

    into play

    I've never tried RM; and I don't really know how to answer the other two questions you've asked


    I never even thought about what you've asked in the second question.
    As for the first one... I

    think it's a personal thing. I mean I'm not sure but... I usually just refresh on instinct; that is, if I

    even refresh at all... which I usually don't find any need to.
    I hope that with more people replying to this

    question - you'll get a better idea of how to look at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubio View Post
    I tried

    a mix of SOE, A1 and A7 tonight.

    Things were different, more friendly (laughing at my dumb jokes like when we

    first started dating), and I feel like I should have thought of trying this a month ago... Took about 3 hours before

    this though.

    So this is something I am going to have to keep experimeting on.

    I did read the cookbook but a

    lot of it is still confusing to me.

    Can RM be used with my SOE A1 A7 combo? Or is that going to make it risk an

    OD?

    I basiacly followed T-Blade's green text for SOE application, but I just but a drop of A1 on neck and A7 on

    wrist. Not sure if I should try more.


    Another odd thing though. I can't smell anything on any of the

    products I bought (accept the cover scents when I finaly apply them). Which is odd because I have a really good

    nose. I don't think there is anything wrong with them given the results, but is it possible I just can't smell it?

    or am I just being way to conservative on my drop.


    Last questions for tonight.

    1. How long do you think

    this application wouldl ast before needing more? (meaning should I be fine all night if I apply around 3pm?)

    2.

    Do you think that it would be wise to rinse at sleep then reapply before partner wakes up? THat way they wake up

    next to smell and furthur associate it with you? (but waitting until early morning so no risk of OD)


    THanks

    again everyone. Trying to learn as much as I can so I won't be such a newb. But if anyone has ever tested RM with

    SOE and what not please let me know, did a search and could not find the answer!
    By all means do change your pheromone signature every week when hangin with steady partner or g/f as

    it prevents them from becoming acclimatised to it and the changes are always perceived and it adds mystery and

    excitement to the equation.


    Keep using your Alpha 7 amounts if they are working fine, just remember when you add a drop of

    Rogue Male into the A7+ SOE formula then cut back on the A7 by an equivelent drop amount so as to keep you

    Androstenone amounts on target.


    For a good 8 hour window of action i will usualy wear something like say 2 or 3 dr A7 + SOE x

    9 drops = about 1+1/2 gel/ pks SOE.


    When the girl is in bed waiting for me i will swipe a little AE gel above my top lip and when

    it comes around to kissin time the girls go mad for it, ha ha i virtually have to hold them back when the ravaging

    she devil comes out in their wild wanton lust,,, OHHH So good to tease, i love to slowly kiss tease whilst they are

    bouncing me over the universe AHHH Sooo good great. . . . What a life.....


    Warning Pheromones will get you wasted.

    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Don't worry about not smelling the

    mones , I can't smell any until I'm od'ed to the max and about to start a fight with the local bikey gang for the

    fun of it.... But on the other hand I can smell a smoker at 100 paces and love sniffing woman when they walk past on

    the street wearing perfume. (umm , maybe I should keep that to myself?) In short , I have a great nose for scents

    but can't smell any pheromones.
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    Have two more questions:

    1. Is

    a1 the stuff called alphatest 101 on the site? Or did I buy the wrong thing?

    2. When you say to go ahead and

    change my scent, is just changing the A7 to RM every week back and forth enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubio View Post
    Have

    two more questions:

    1. Is a1 the stuff called alphatest 101 on the site? Or did I buy the wrong thing?

    2.

    When you say to go ahead and change my scent, is just changing the A7 to RM every week back and forth

    enough?
    Yes, also try and alternate the fragrances if you have any that she

    likes, like altering the products is a big help, and you may be able to use less product when in close and intimate

    setting with someone whome is already attracted to you as in having the fish in the bag.

    A little pheromone say an Xcite wipe or a SOE gel/pkt can really enhance lovemaking when

    spread on participating bodys and add a new exciting depth to lovemaking.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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