To build sexual
tension,try TE or A7(I heard it works well as a pair bonder)
Hi,
Here's the situation. My wife feels like she love's me, but is no longer "in love" with me. She is not longer
attracted to me. I'm hoping that something from LS could help.
Please note that I said help and not fix. I've
already searched the forum for this topic, and I noticed a lot of "pheremones are not a fix, you need to address
what's really wrong, blah blah. Mones might only buy you some more time, but they won't cure anything.."
Trust
me, I am working on the other aspects. I'm doing a lot of personal work, research, and much more, so please try to
stick with my question (unless I really am missing something here). My sincerest Thanks,
Here goes..:
23 yr
old male (popular at work, really laid back, not an alpha)
5' 6"
140 lbs (i've lost some weight
recently..working on it)
My wife is 22
About 5' 9"
155lbs
We both work together (is there anything i should
use at work also?) Things have been less than excellant for a little under a year (having our first child may have
had a role). Married almost 3 yrs. She moved out about 3 weeks ago...
Last week went on a short vacation (nothing
changed, and we both agreed that wasn't why we were going). I used some Pherone M11, with no noticeable increase in
attraction. I tried different doses from dabs to drops from clothes to skin..when I got to three drops, she told me
she didn't like how I smelled. (i alternated between tommy bahama and Realm as covers) She seemed more comfortable
and talkative and I felt better, but who knows, it could have been just getting away and breathing in some mountain
air .
Anyway, I'm looking for a spark. Something that could maybe make her second guess whether or not she is
attracted to me. I feel like as long as she believes that she is not, she won't be as receptive to changes im
making... I think you get the picture.
I don't know if this is helpful at all, but she also likes to wear a
healthy dose of perfume. She's the girl that always smells good, and sometimes, you don't have to be very close to
notice it. (mostly perfumes, but often bath and body works)
Any help (or advice) is truly appreciated. Thank
you.
Last edited by nkotb; 09-18-2007 at 05:13 PM.
To build sexual
tension,try TE or A7(I heard it works well as a pair bonder)
Excellent! Scented or Unscented?
Any reccomendations for dosing? Thank you.
Anyone else?
My g/f still reacts favourably to 1 or 2 drops Alpha 7, with a good
spray of nice cologne.
I have the unscented Alpha 7 and it
smells absolutley delicious with its sexy smell.
It is my
number 1 favourite pheromone and now i have just run out waaaa waaaaaa, I have been wearing it nearly every day
alone and in mixes as it is a great mixer, this stuff just wears so well.
Thank goodness i have some Alpha 7 mixes stashed under my bed role.
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I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
Follow Terry's advice,he
is a very wise one.If you are trying the edge just search for recommended dosages as I am starting from scratch with
testing edge(got it from the newbie kit along with SPMO),SPMO just throws me off and doesn't seem to agree with
me.
I agree completely Terry. I had a great night out last weekend with A7. It
mixed so well with my chosen cover and the evening was so darned pleasant. No overt hits but every woman I talked
to exuded intimacy in both body and subtle verbal hints. I was with a date, and her responses were very positive.
nkotb, this is a shot in the
dark, but if you're intent on using mones to save a marriage you might try A1 (androstedienone) for its
trust/comfort vibe. However, you should know that effective use of mones requires experimentation and practice.
Genuine best wishes,
Greg
Thanks everyone for all the
helpful information. I'm thinking of ordering A7 and J.P. Gaultier cover scent. I was looking around for A1, but
all I could find was the pure mone in the kits/supplies section... I'm not sure if that's what you guys were
reffering to. If it is, then the $80 price tag will keep it on the wish list for now.
What's your age, A7 dosage,
and application points, ID?
And if anyone else peeps in that favors A7, what have you found to
be your sweet spot (drops)?
Thanks one, thanks all!
nkotb, whenever I wear heavy dosages
of TE:cologne 50:50 and two drops of A-1, I get lots of "What in the world is that cologne that you
wear!?!?!?" I always ask if I put on too much, and they say, "No, you smell good!" and I've gotten
"No, you smell good! Real good!" All seem to be around your ladies' age. You can probably pull that off
without the A-1 ... that Newbee package of musk and TE at 50:50 at three sprays does a number on young ones, too!
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Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
At 1 or 2 drops A7 is so sweet 4 me, funny thing though i have noticed something strange when i have
2 drops on the average type female up to a 5 or a 6 shows little real interest but for some reason the sixes to tens
like the more stunning sexier women are more easily out under the Alpha 7's spell.
I dont get it but thats the pattern that
seems to be emerging for me anyway.
Im not complaining though.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
I used all sorts of mone products
on my ex-wife--TE, NPA, C7, SOE, IMPI, , etc.--to no avail. Now she still cared for me but the fire was
pretty much out. Even with mones it seemed impossible to change her hardened perception of me. However, one mone did
actually work well on her--A-1. Didn't save the marriage but allowed us to hangout hours longer without fighting,
and helped put her in a better mood during her monthly punishment. So I had measured success but unfortunately it
didn't turn her into a hubby worshipping horndog. We're still friends and even take vacations together once in a
while.
The big thing that came of all this, 3.5 years later, is the mones that failed my marriage have proved
extremely useful in my social and romantic life. I use them almost daily. However they work best on strangers,
casual friends and new dates.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
A1 is
usually not for beginners. BUT.. in your case I say it's the best answer for your specific needs.
It's known as a
pair-bonder more than a "first-time" attractor.
I use it with my g/f and it works wonders and wonderfull romance.
Also, taking your age into account, I'd advice SOE and TE. I myself use EE (Edge Essentials *Arouser Blend...
which is basicly almost the very same thing as TE) & SOE unscented, and A1.
I'll refer you to a great post I
wrote a while ago as a reply to a newbie at your age (which just happens to also be my age - I'm also 23). That
post has a few very important links to read that let you know almost everything you need to know when starting out
with `mones. Just take into account that although I advised most of the people there not to try A1 right away - I
think for your specific case it's THE thing.
So, here is
The Link To That Post.
Also,
here's a link to a
thread that tells you a bit more about A1.
I use it myself and as I said - It's truly wonderfull.
For
your case again... You might indeed want to have Alpha-7 in your stock for those days you want to add some sexual
kick (or tension). Just be sure to first start small on the dosage as it is easier for us young guys to OD on `none
(which is the `mone in A7) - as we produce more of it naturally than the 30+ year olds. So figure out your dosage by
starting low and going up bit by bit `till you find what feels best.
You'll read more about this at The Minimalist
Manifesto (linked at the post I gave you above).
I find your cause very much worth it and I scincerily hope the
`mones will help you both out
As you said yourself - They're only there to give you an edge, so stay aware of
her reactions and make the best out of the opportunities you get. You'll do fine
to the
forums. And of course feel free to ask any questions you still have. There are many experienced people around here
with great will to help
Oh and remember that the right `mones for you depend on factors like your age, your
wifes' age, your personal `mone-signature, the humidity at your area etc. etc.
You'll find much more info about
this at the linked post above
I hope this helps... I haven't yet heared of a cause more justified
than this one. Tons of Good Luck!!
P.S.
Personally, I'd advise you a specific mix which I happen to
use almost daily. See the green text in this
post. Or simply read the whole post... for you I think it might be a usefull thing to do.
I advise you to use
that mix on an almost daily basis, and once in a while exchange the TE with Alpha-7 and take her out for a night
that can lead to sexual tension. Just to spice things out. Terry once mentioned that changing your `mone signature
once in a while can make the woman curious and give you the mystery edge... I think with your needs - you only need
to do that once in a while in a way that'll spice things up.. that way could be implemented very well with A7
So to conclude:
If you can afford it: Get The Beginner Special (ask to substitude the TE for EE
or just go with the TE... your choice), SOE (you have to choose for yourself if you want scented or
unscented), A1, and Alpha-7.
If you can't afford that many products, just go with The Beginner
Special and the SOE in my opinion. Or if that doesn't fit you, maybe go with some A1 and A7.
I hope I ain't
confusing you with all these options.
Keep us posted. and again mate: Good Luck!
Gegogi.. you use IMPI?
I
recently bought IMPI Original and haven't used it yet. Any chance you can tell us a bit about it?
I tested a bottle the other year,
so they may have tweaked it since then. It behaved similar to a weakened TE. Probably good for younger guys but I
need full strength. My main problem with IMPI is I didn't care for the scent, and that scent was difficult to
cover.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
The scent feels ok I
think. But ain't it suposed to be a new tech? How come you feel it's like weakened TE?
Once again, I'd like to thank you
all for all the responses. I'll let you know how it goes...
I ended up getting A7 and a bottle of cover scent.
After seeing all these posts though I might also pick up a beginner special and some A1....next paycheck.
A1 half
strength is ok too right? I just need to use twice as much?
Tenaciousblade, I really appreciate your posting.
It's especially comforting to get advice from someone my age.
I'll get to reading those links now...
I am facing a simlar problem as
the orginal poster and wanted to get some feedback.
My wife is 28 and I am 30. She suffers from depression
which does not make things any easier.
We live in Los Angeles (so you can guess the climate).
I had
ordered RM before I found the forum. THen after reading here I bought several products figuring that since I have
limited time to get the spark back that I should error on the side of caution.
So I also bought (thanks to this
thread) SOE, TE, A1 & A7.
Going to try tonight so wanted to get some mixing points.
I love the smell of RM
(everything just arrived). So I am wondering if I could do a RM, SOE, A1 mix? (as everything else is
unsecneted).
But like I said I have all of the above and limited time to try to get the spark back So I am
willing to do whatever it takes to save our marriage.
Anyway, great advice here so far, just looking for
something tailored to our ages and climate given the products that I ordered. So any advice such as how much to mix
(i'd rather mix on body then in a spray thing as I am not that skilled at measuring and what not lol) and what to
mix would be so greatly appreciated.
I know my problem is worse because depression is thrown into the mix and as
her psychiatrist told me, depressed people tend to push away people that mgiht make them happy, I know if we can at
least get a spark of intimacy back (derpression meds ahd a lot to do with it going away...) then we can work on
rebuilding. But without that spark I think she will just give up
So thanks in advance and I really do
appreciate it. Also thanks for being kind to the OP, I probably would have been afraid to post if not for the
posstive responses.
Rubio,
A resource that I am
finding to be helpful is divorcebusting.com
Obviously, you have a very unique situation, but you may find help
there. I have hired a coach, but even if you don't, their forum is worth checking out. Like love-scent there is a
ton of good info and experience over there to learn from. Good Luck.
Good luck indeed Rubio, wish you
the best.
Thinking about you and nkotb there's really no advice to be given that's different from pheromone
advice to anyone: start small, experiment and observe. There's a lot of good info in this thread and should be a
good starting point for you. You have great products, all of which I've used with success.
I disagree ever so
slightly with Gegogi in that I've had good success with mones and 2 former GFs. Of course that's different than a
marriage, and we were never estranged. I absolutely agree with him, and others, about A1. I've used it with TE
with good results and based on tips in this thread will use it with A7 in the future.
As with anyone starting out
its best to use products alone before mixing to evaluate effectiveness of each product. With mixes the
possibilities are endless, and you need to know how each one works on its own.
One favorite mix: 1 drop A1
spread on arms with 4" SoE on each wrist and 2" on neck and a drop of TE spread around. I like to put the TE where
she will pick it up when things become intimate. I've also had good results from this leaving out the SoE, but it
helps break the ice and get her chatty. I apply it and let it settle on my skin, then cover with cologne or EO.
I know this is going to
sound like a strange plan, but here it goes. Ask a male friend, that your wife has not met, to run across you two in
a bar or night club. Have him pick a fight with you for no reason. You know, "Hey you stepped on my foot" or "Why
did you bump into me?" Then you will stand up to him and end it with simple reasoning and no fighting. He will just
be scared of you for what he thinks you can do to him. Your wife will see how well you handle the situation and
think you are the Alpha Dog. I saw this plan in the movie "Enough" and it is thoroughly plausible. Just a last ditch
effort to try if all else fails with your wife.
Good luck,
Sweet Thing
Mobley! I
just now saw your post tucked in among the masses, sorry I didn't see it before. I'm 49 and, like you, terribly
handsome. I put a drop of A7 on my neck and another 1/2 drop on each wrist, covered it with La Nuit, a dark and
leathery cologne. It blended so well I'll repeat it, with maybe a touch of A1 or SoE. I've found A7 to be a
great standalone up to 2 drops total. I OD easily on -none.
Nice to make your acquaintance,
Greg
You must be kiddin`.Originally Posted by sweet
thing;203479
I mean feel free n` all but personally... I
really don't think that's such a great idea.
Did you ever tried such a thing with any success?
I tried a mix of SOE, A1 and A7
tonight.
Things were different, more friendly (laughing at my dumb jokes like when we first started dating), and
I feel like I should have thought of trying this a month ago... Took about 3 hours before this though.
So this
is something I am going to have to keep experimeting on.
I did read the cookbook but a lot of it is still
confusing to me.
Can RM be used with my SOE A1 A7 combo? Or is that going to make it risk an OD?
I
basiacly followed T-Blade's green text for SOE application, but I just but a drop of A1 on neck and A7 on wrist.
Not sure if I should try more.
Another odd thing though. I can't smell anything on any of the products I
bought (accept the cover scents when I finaly apply them). Which is odd because I have a really good nose. I
don't think there is anything wrong with them given the results, but is it possible I just can't smell it? or am
I just being way to conservative on my drop.
Last questions for tonight.
1. How long do you think this
application wouldl ast before needing more? (meaning should I be fine all night if I apply around 3pm?)
2. Do
you think that it would be wise to rinse at sleep then reapply before partner wakes up? THat way they wake up next
to smell and furthur associate it with you? (but waitting until early morning so no risk of OD)
THanks again
everyone. Trying to learn as much as I can so I won't be such a newb. But if anyone has ever tested RM with SOE
and what not please let me know, did a search and could not find the answer!
The fact that it works for me, doesn't
necessarily mean it's the exact mix-formula that'll work for you mate
If you feel you need more of a
specific `mone-product - I think it might be good for you to try it.
We each have our own natural-`mone-signature.
Mine is different than yours, and therefor, your best mix might not be the same as mine.
As you said - you should
do more experimenting
I hope this helps
There are people who don't seem to smell the `mones.
I also consider myself to have a very good nose, yet I barely smell the cat-piss odor that others sometimes describe
TE to have.
IMHO, the way to measure if you're application amounts are right for you, is by the results you get.
But bare in mind that it might take time for the results to be conclusive... here again, come the trial & experiment
into play
I've never tried RM; and I don't really know how to answer the other two questions you've asked
I never even thought about what you've asked in the second question.
As for the first one... I
think it's a personal thing. I mean I'm not sure but... I usually just refresh on instinct; that is, if I
even refresh at all... which I usually don't find any need to.
I hope that with more people replying to this
question - you'll get a better idea of how to look at it
By all means do change your pheromone signature every week when hangin with steady partner or g/f as
it prevents them from becoming acclimatised to it and the changes are always perceived and it adds mystery and
excitement to the equation.
Keep using your Alpha 7 amounts if they are working fine, just remember when you add a drop of
Rogue Male into the A7+ SOE formula then cut back on the A7 by an equivelent drop amount so as to keep you
Androstenone amounts on target.
For a good 8 hour window of action i will usualy wear something like say 2 or 3 dr A7 + SOE x
9 drops = about 1+1/2 gel/ pks SOE.
When the girl is in bed waiting for me i will swipe a little AE gel above my top lip and when
it comes around to kissin time the girls go mad for it, ha ha i virtually have to hold them back when the ravaging
she devil comes out in their wild wanton lust,,, OHHH So good to tease, i love to slowly kiss tease whilst they are
bouncing me over the universe AHHH Sooo good great. . . . What a life.....
Warning Pheromones will get you wasted.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
Don't worry about not smelling the
mones , I can't smell any until I'm od'ed to the max and about to start a fight with the local bikey gang for the
fun of it.... But on the other hand I can smell a smoker at 100 paces and love sniffing woman when they walk past on
the street wearing perfume. (umm , maybe I should keep that to myself?) In short , I have a great nose for scents
but can't smell any pheromones.
early 40's white male or or
Have two more questions:
1. Is
a1 the stuff called alphatest 101 on the site? Or did I buy the wrong thing?
2. When you say to go ahead and
change my scent, is just changing the A7 to RM every week back and forth enough?
Yes, also try and alternate the fragrances if you have any that she
likes, like altering the products is a big help, and you may be able to use less product when in close and intimate
setting with someone whome is already attracted to you as in having the fish in the bag.
A little pheromone say an Xcite wipe or a SOE gel/pkt can really enhance lovemaking when
spread on participating bodys and add a new exciting depth to lovemaking.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
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