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    Hello, I

    am brand new to the forum as well as mones in general (with a whole 4 days under my belt ). Despite this I have

    been lurking and reading for a number of months now. Anyway, onto business...

    I see many people refer to

    applying a certain fraction of a gel pack (ex: 1/4th of a gel pack). Also, I see posters use "inches" when they

    speak (write, I should say) of their dosages.

    I recently bought a SOE roll-top bottle. So, naturally, I am

    inclined to calibrate dosages in terms of inches. Therefore I am left wondering how many "inches" are in a gel

    pack, so to speak. Any thoughts?

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    You can do some homework and

    figure it out yourself... a roll-top bottle of SOE contains 10ml and each packet contians 1ml. Divide and mark the

    amount of liquid in the roll-top bottle into 10 even ticks. This should give you an idea of how much a ml of SOE

    is... Using the bottle, roll out SOE on your arm until you use up 1ml from the bottle. Measure this out and that

    should tell you how many inches each packet contains.

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    You are correct sir. But, I

    would prefer not to utterly waste a whole ml of SOE, even for the sake of science. This is why I simply asked if

    anyone else happened to know how many inches are in one ml.

    What is more, before you tell me to empty my SOE

    bottle and fill it back up with water in order to "experiment," why don't you "do some homework and figure it out

    yourself." That way, there is no need for me to reinvent the wheel. Savvy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureKill View Post
    You are

    correct sir. But, I would prefer not to utterly waste a whole ml of SOE, even for the sake of science. This is

    why I simply asked if anyone else happened to know how many inches are in one ml.

    What is more, before you tell

    me to empty my SOE bottle and fill it back up with water in order to "experiment," why don't you "do some homework

    and figure it out yourself." That way, there is no need for me to reinvent the wheel. Savvy?
    I remember

    reading here someone did this calculation and figured it out, probably Terry or Oscar. It might take some time but

    you could do a search if its important to you.

    Or, you could transfer the contents of the roll-top bottle into

    a dropper bottle and make your calculations based on drops. Drops per ml by stated concentration etc. The trouble

    is some products are unknown in term of -mone content. I'll assume you've read the

    Pherolibrary.

    http://pherolibrary.com/

    Not much help I know, but I'm not one to get too technical

    with application. There's just too much we don't know and experimenting is half the fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureKill View Post
    You are

    correct sir. But, I would prefer not to utterly waste a whole ml of SOE, even for the sake of science. This is

    why I simply asked if anyone else happened to know how many inches are in one ml.

    What is more, before

    you tell me to empty my SOE bottle and fill it back up with water in order to "experiment," why don't you "do some

    homework and figure it out yourself." That way, there is no need for me to reinvent the wheel.

    Savvy?
    Since SOE isn't very expensive, I would do the experiment myself if i actually wanted to know

    how many inches equal a packet or a ml but i don't really care... i was just giving you a simple way of doing it

    yourself.

    I actually have a half bottle of SOE that i could do this with since i much prefer C7 and NPA but

    because i don't like the tone of your response, i would rather throw the bottle away than help you further.

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    Futurekill it should be

    in the pherolibrary and be chill out,we don't bite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikdogg View Post
    Since

    SOE isn't very expensive, I would do the experiment myself if i actually wanted to know how many inches equal a

    packet or a ml but i don't really care... i was just giving you a simple way of doing it yourself.

    I actually

    have a half bottle of SOE that i could do this with since i much prefer C7 and NPA but because i don't like the

    tone of your response, i would rather throw the bottle away than help you further.
    You completely missed

    the point of my last post. I was not asking you to do anything. I was pointing out that if you knew the

    answer to my question, it would have been reasonable to actually answer my question Obviously you did not

    have the information I sought, though it would have perfectly sufficient to say so. Also, I suggest that you not

    throw away half a bottle of SOE (or anything for that matter) just on my account, as that would be foolish.

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    Iaskalotof?'s, thank you sir. I will definitely check that out.

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    No problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureKill View Post
    You completely missed the point of my last post. I was not asking you to do

    anything. I was pointing out that if you knew the answer to my question, it would have been reasonable to actually

    answer my question Obviously you did not have the information I sought, though it would have perfectly

    sufficient to say so. Also, I suggest that you not throw away half a bottle of SOE (or anything for that matter)

    just on my account, as that would be foolish.

    to Iaskalotof?'s, thank you sir. I will definitely check that

    out.
    Hi, No two people will ever get the exact same measurements when

    measuring drops because of differences in atmospheric pressures, temperatures,which all relate to the viscosity of

    the product to be measured. ( do not use water when working out pheromone measurements and quantities

    )


    I have done the calculations several times with measuring

    inches and drops from various new SOE rollertop bottles.


    Ie one

    drop of SOE will roll out to 5" on average.

    385 dr x 5" = 1925"

    per bottle = 62 gel/pks.


    SOE x 1 dr = 10.38mcg Androstenole +

    2.59mcg Androsterone = 12.98 total mcg per drop.


    6.6 dr = 64mcg

    aNOL + 16 mcg aRONE =80 mcg this is = to one SOE gel/pkt.


    SOE

    bottle contains total of 500 mcg pheromones per ml which = 400 mcg Anol + 100 mcg Arone.



    SOE bottle full = 5000mcg/10mL pheromones = 5mg./10

    mL

    = 4 mg aNOL + 1mg aRONE./10 mL

    SOE gel/pkt contains ( .08 mg ) = 80 mcg pheromones per 1 mL pkt = 64 mcg aNOL + 16 mcg aRONE

    per pkt


    Divide 5000 mcg bottle by 80 mcg pkt will give you

    around 62 gel/pks in relation to the bottle.


    When a SOE bottle

    is new it is advisable to wet the roller ball with product and stand the bottle upright and then proceed to roll a

    clean thumb or palm back and forth over the roller to get it freed up so as to deliver the correct flow rate of

    pheromones because the ball can sometimes at first be a little stuck up due to inactivity.



    Around 30"

    = 1 gel/pkt
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    Thank you very much, that is

    exactly what I was wondering. That makes sense too, I seem to recall several posts wherein a person wrote about

    using 1/4 of a gel pack. According to your astute calculations that is about 6", which also seems fairly

    common. So, thank you again terry.

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    You can do some homework

    and figure it out yourself... a roll-top bottle of SOE contains 10ml and each packet contians 1ml. Divide and mark

    the amount of liquid in the roll-top bottle into 10 even ticks.
    This won't work. The mone concentration

    in the roll-on is higher than the gel pack. Also, the gels come in 2 different sizes...
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureKill View Post
    Thank you very much, that is exactly what I was wondering. That makes sense too, I seem to

    recall several posts wherein a person wrote about using 1/4 of a gel pack. According to your astute calculations

    that is about 6", which also seems fairly common. So, thank you again terry.
    I have also used 1/4 or 1/3 gel/pkt in a more inclosed or intimate setting with excellent results

    like even a car.


    If going to a club or even out for a full day or to a dance i usually apply a full gel/pkt

    .


    Because of

    my age my best and favourite mix is 1 drop Alpha 7 + 30" SOE as this mix works for me giving its share of

    consistant hits and paying its keep.




    Even the best mix will not go and give hits every single time as there are many

    other factors that come in to play on any given window of opportunity.


    There have been times that an application of

    TE or AE have provided wonderfull over the top hits for me that would never have happened without pheromones , that

    much you can be shure of, but dont expect it each and every day,


    It eventually over time works out that you

    develope your own favourite products and mixes what works for you and then every few days cycle your applications so

    as not to become stale and if you are pheromoned then you will see pheromones working for you in varying degrees

    from fantastic to fair but you have to be armed to get the best edge pheromone wise.


    And over time you may with patience and

    use become a pheromone artist with skills to frame every occasion social or sexual, as its all good fun, and very

    entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi View Post
    This

    won't work. The mone concentration in the roll-on is higher than the gel pack. Also, the gels come in 2 different

    sizes...
    Yes good reconing Big G,

    Shure the old SOE gels came in with .13 mg

    pheromones and the new ones that are sold now on L-S contain standard .08mg.


    There may be other distributors selling some

    of their old stock packs in the larger size of .13mg but all the new fresh SOE gel/pks are now being manufactured

    to the standard smaller and less expensive .08mg size. the same as other L-S gel/pkt products.
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