Pheromones for attracting college girls
Im relatively new to all this. Ive been lurking for a little bit and finally felt i needed to ask some
questions. From the posts Ive read it seems most people are older or are trying to attract a different age woman
than me.
That brings me to my information. Im 18 (mainly white) and am going to be starting college and want to in
general improve my image and have more success with the ladies. Ive been looking a bit at some of DeAngelo's stuff,
and have been going to the gym on and off for over a year. i am a relatively quiet kid the first few days up to
maybe a week around new people (especially girls). though after that i can be very social and talkative. But this
doesn't matter as much becuase first impressions are very important, and i don't want to come off as the shy,
quiet loser type. I think pheromones can probably help me with this, if i project a confident image which i should
be able to do.
I also want to attract girls/women from the age of 18 to say 21.
So i am interested in pheromones
for pretty much sexual/sexual-chatty hits as sexual and sexual-chatty hits from girls will raise respect from males
as well as other females. I do not want to come off as gay to anyone so i think im going to use probably at least
one spray of some product with a decent amount of none per day.
I currently have about 1/2 a bottle of edge
left. I have had a few hits, one major (almost DIHL id say), all the others not. (i'd been using 2 sprays of edge
from the Pocket atomizer) I also tried some perception gels (no solid hits; used about 3/4 packet each time) and
chikara gels(no hits; used 3/4 packet usually) and SPMO with the Edge(which i don't like the smell of, but i got a
the really good hit from with edge). I really disliked the way chikara smelled (smells exactly like every other guy
as its the same as Axe Kilo), and i have plenty of good cologne for attracting girls my age (victoria's secret VS1,
magnetism, 212, Envy, and others). becuase of this im looking for an unscented product or very lightly scented
product.
I was thinking of possibly getting SOE unscented and one other product and am not looking to spend
more than a bit over one bill, maybe 150 max.
What are you're suggestions for what I should get?
What amounts
of the products would you use in a classroom/close-quarters situation? a party/club situation?
If i could pull
from just having a girl walk by me at a club or party, that would be awesome. Ive read some reports of that from
some of the pros. How much of which products are recommended to get these reactions from young(18-21yo) girls? (i
know these reactions are few and far between)
thanks for all of your help
If you were getting hits from
TE, SoE might not be worthwhile. TE is mostly -none and SoE has no -none in it. I think you should either stay with
TE/NPA or try AE or A7. SoE mixed with TE might be worthwhile as well but not straight SoE in your case.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Actually, I would definitely
recommend SOE. It really helps with social freedom because it gets everyone chatting! Oh and I would also get the
scented version, just because I love the scent!
Your first couple of days and weeks are very important, but an
incredible journey!
When I have more time and have collected my thoughts I'll post some non-pheromonal advice
to help you make as big a splash as possible.
thanks for the replies.
CptK, I look forward to reading your collected thoughts.
About the SOE scent though does it blend well
with other colognes? I sandalwood scents ive smelled in the past have been a bit overpowering and older smelling
than i want. Also, im going to college in the south (US) so i thought the scent may be too overpowering in the heat.
I have a few more questions
Am i correct in thinking oils are better than alcohols in the heat?
belgareth
do you think A7 or AE would be better in combination with SOE?
Would be a worthwhile phero to get or is
SOE/TE more effective?
A7 seems to have a greater -none concentration than AE and needs to beOriginally Posted by College_Man
covered. It would be better than AE to mix with SoE. AE or A7, either one would be a good stand alone to test first.
My suggestion would be to try AE first as a stand alone.
I've been using the AQ uscented for several months now
and seeing great results. Got another excellent hit from a cute young checker at the grocery store this afternoon. I
do cover it as it stinks.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
thanks for the replies.
CptK, I look forward to reading your collected thoughts
About the SOE scent though does it blend well with other colognes? I sandalwood scents ive smelled in the past
have been a bit overpowering and older smelling than i want. Also, im going to college in the south (US) so i
thought the scent may be too overpowering in the heat.
I have a few more questions
Am i correct in thinking
oils are better than alcohols in the heat?
belgareth do you think A7 or AE would be better in combination with
SOE?
Would be a worthwhile phero to get or is SOE/TE more effective?
Oil has a slower
evaporation time so it lasts longer in the heat where alcohol based mones evaporate much faster..
So I would also
go with oil mones basically and as Bel says.. I can only recommend AE and Soe..
AE have given me great results and
the smell.. Ohhh I LOVE it
But always try these products as standalone first for 2-3 weeks without mixing to
see what ratios works for you, and what they does for you.. And after 3 weeks you know what this product gives you
(social results, sexual, respect or anything else) and which ratios works best for you and when you OD on this
product..
And when you have done this for both AE alone and Soe alone you can consider.. Do you want to mix the
results you have seen..
Fx. Soe gives friendly and chatty results and AE gives more flirty and sexual results.. If
you mix the two you can end up being friendly with a sexual edge..
And then when mixing these you have to test
again as this mixing can cause you need lot more AE or SOE then else or different ratios of the two products than
before..
Good luck with the testing
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
just a quick note, I'm on my
way out: SOE smells great according to a LOT of girls. What the scent combines with will be a matter for
experimentation. Oh and its a sweet-ish musky smell rather that sandalwood.
So this is what i'm
planning to get at the moment.
SOE - I found an SOE gel and im going to see if I like the scent on my next
occasion to use soe.
AE Gels - AE seems to be the best standalone so i figured it would be the best if I had it
portable. also i want to test out the scent.
Chikara Unscented - seems to work well for young guys, but didn't
like the scent. I might not get this, depends on if i have enough money.
A7 - probably gonna need another none
product since im getting all of these friendly mones.
Xcite Wipes - seems like a good portable product.
Unfortunately for your testing,
I find that SOE gels do not smell the same as the roll on.
Ok these are some of my thoughts RE non-pheromonal
advice (by the way, some people might comment that this is a little militant and anal, but this is how to get the
best results. If you want less than that, thats ok too):
1. First impression is very important. That is,
when someone first sees you, whatever image, style, personality, confidence, value, interesting-ness etc. that they
see will play a massive role in deciding whether they find you attractive or not.
In practical terms, this means
that you have to look cool...all of the time. You have to look comfortable in social situations, around guys and
especially around girls. A very important thing to bear in mind is that social proof is VERY powerful; girls will be
constantly trying to assess the following about you:
a) "DOES THIS GUY SOCIALISE WITH AND CONSISTANTLY
PULL/DATE/SLEEP WITH ATTRACTIVE GIRLS LIKE ME". This is probably the most important one.
b) "What do other guys
think of this guy?" Leaders of men generally get the girls.
It also helps a lot of you are generally seen to be a
fun guy, always having fun and making other guys and girls have fun around you. Although not in some kind of circus
act way, your not doing it to impress anyone.
2. Your first INTERACTION is even more important!! Again,
the "does this guy get girls like me" thing comes up. Think about the kinds of things you say around girls you could
easily get, and things you say around your guy mates. Be comfortable, be adventurous with what you say. Do not
decide her value as a person based on her looks, if she has to be her best self to make you smile or even engage her
properly in a conversation she will respect you for it, and she will even feel better being around you for it. Think
about a bratty kid, very easily impressed by you and laughs at anything. Notice how you respect your friends and
adults in general MORE for having to work just that little bit harder for attention and acknowledgement, and that
you feel more rewarded for getting it. It's exactly the same for girls when it comes to guys.
If you can make
these two points go really well with most girls, you will be a very sort after guy.
Ok, so I've given you a
goal, but how do you tick those boxes? Weeeellll, there is no easy way. The ONLY way to to it is to practice...a
lot. But luckily, practicing is as simple as talking to a lot of girls you find attractive with these points in mind
until it becomes natural. Guess what happens then? You've already become a guy who socialises with attractive
girls, and HOPEFULLY, you will also become very comfortable*** around them which will lead to attraction.
You
should also make sure hygiene and your personal style and dress sense is good. When I say good, I don't mean the
kind of style and clothes that girls will necessarily say they LIKE, I mean the types of styles and clothes that
guys have/wear who girls actually sleep with. Period.
Classic example of this: A friend of mine changed his hair
style in a big way a couple of months ago, when I asked why he said that he asked some girls that he knew and they
said they liked it like that when he had it that way before. Now, this guy has not exactly grown up as a player, and
I know he didn't sleep with any of these girls and they probably didn't find him attractive or have him in their
imaginary "yes" pile. They knew him as just being a friend, so gave him style advice based on that perspective. I'm
not saying that he couldn't have gotten the right answers from those girls, but he didn't.
Practice telling
fun, interesting stories (hint: topics might include fun, interesting and notable things). If these stories happen
to cast you in a favourable light (although NOT as their main theme) then all the better!
*** If you are
comfortable around attractive girls, the resulting behaviour is VERY obvious, at least to them. You make fun of them
for being silly, if they do or say something you don't agree with then you disagree or walk away. You speak more
naturally and carry yourself with less tension. You are genuinely interested in their conversation instead of
wondering if they like you or what you can get from them, and you will be judging them socially just like anyone who
isn't visually stunning. Talking to attractive girls should not be a big deal to you. If you are comfortable with
attractive girls, it's basically subcomunicating that they can be comfortable with you. It means that if they pay
you some attention or even hint that they are interested that it will not be a big deal for you and that you won't
go all WEIRD and CREEPY (too very scary words if you're a girl, think stalker and potential rapist).
Ok thats
all for now!
Please ask questions if ANYTHING is unclear; no doubt I made no sense at times. Just because it
makes sense in my head I can't expect it instantly make sense to anyone else, and there is no point in me writing
it if you don't understand.
Wow CK! That's a great
piece. Thanks for reminding all of us that context is important and mones never stand alone-- and you did it with
such actionable detail as well.
It's funny, because I've been thinking about tongue-in-cheek pick up lines
that go with each mone product:
PI:
"Don't I look familiar? I'm the guy who will knock out any man who ever
harrasses you."
TE:
"Need a lift? I'll give you the ride of your life!"
SOE:
"Hi there, want to talk
about how you are feeling today?"
A1:
"Forget that Midol. Come here and have a good cry on my shoulder."
Okay, I'm no humor writer, but you get the drift. I welcome any other "guaranteed" pick up lines that work with
particular mones.
-CAt
CK I know this you've just
told.. But always wondered about something..:
you go to a private party and you really impress the girls and guys..
All thinks you're funny and a great guy.. Suddenly you feel the chicks starts to like you and look at you in a
different way.. You like it and just enjoy.. Don't go all weird over it and just keeps the work going..
Then you
get drunk and starts being stupid..
Fx. tries to kiss one of the girls you know "did" like you.. She
refuses..
Have you now blown it?
or will she just refuse because you're embarrassing when you're that
drunk..?
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
WorkingMann,
It depends on
what you did to embarrass your self! However if you do stupid things that aren't cool, and come off as a little
weird and dorky then that will put most girls off (unless you somehow frame what you do as cool...I don't
know).
However, the her cooling off may only be temporary as long as you play it right when you next see the
girl. Although its kind of hard to be more specific without knowing more about your situation, there could be other
stuff going on too.
Cptkipling good notes
there...
Pheromones will only get your foot in the door. I find them only effective on first impressions. If
you have them then, you'll know it and everytime you meet up you are wearing them, they will be yours.
However,
this success with women needs to come from a place inside of you. It's who you are. I've done experiments where I
wore a bunch of SOE and had girls touchy feely and all over me but I acted like a complete dick and they were soooo
turned off. Basically, pheros will keep them around you longer and allow more mess ups than usual. If shes extremely
hot usually you get 1 strike but lets say after some Chikara its usually 3. It's really good when you meet girl to
just start talking to them and making them feel comfortable with you. This way, she will have enough time to whiff
the pheromones. Walk aways are powerful too... where you talk for 5-10 mins, walk away and shes off that pheros
"high" and then when you come back... BOOM right back in again. Do this once or twice more and you'll
understand.
I love pheros because they really open up the doors for women to see your personality. Women just want
to feel comfortable, sexy, and safe around a man and thats what pheros accomplish right off the bat.
Thanks
Nice post. If you think of any pick-up/seduction/start-of-a-relationship-with -a-girl/etc.
as a series of steps, it's like pheros make those steps easier and you get more chances if you mess up slightly.
But I agree, the most important thing a person can do in this, or any, field is to develop themselves. Call it inner
game, whatever, but working from the inside out and becoming a "better" person is a FAR more effective method.
thanks for all of your
advices, Esp CptKipling.
Anyway, so im gonna be meeting some of the people going to my college over the weekend,
and was wondering what you all thought would be good to wear. Right now im thinking a dab of TE behind each ear and
some combo of SOE and/or Chikara as that is what i have.
Ive been testing over the past few days.
A few day
ago, Im pretty sure I OD'd on the none as i was on a train sitting accross (facing her apprx 4 ft away) from a
beautiful girl, and i started talking about the book she was reading w/ my friend, but she didn't even look up once
(pretty sure she heard). probably was intimidated/thought i smelled. I probably should have opened as someone
naturally having that much none would have. My bad. But anyway, that may have been an OD and my personality isn't
really opening in situations like that so i should probably reduct the amount. I was wearing a full pack of
perception(have seen no results) as well so i thought the nol would lessen the OD effects of TE but i don't think
it did cuz of that stupid water/polymer matrix crap.
In another experiment the day before, I tried 2 dabs, and
saw no results except for a lady being quite nice, and then asking me to hold her place in line, after i cut in
front of her in line at a chemists (i think). that day I also wore a half pack of SOE in addition to the TE. seemed
to work. That day i didn't OD, so im thinking 2 dabs (one behind each ear) for the event.
The fact that its an
alcohol may be a problem as well, its summer here and quite hot, but the locations im going to are AC'd so the TE
alcohol is probably burning up pretty fast outside. I'm also taking some stimulants (MAN Scorch), as well as a free
test booster which may help with none output, so should i even use none?
So right now im deciding between using
TE, Chikara and SOE (or a combo) and how much. In my mind i combined the smell of Escada Magnetism w/ the smell of
Chikara and think itll come out nicely, so I shouldn't have a problem with that.
before when i stated i didn't
have results w/ chikara, i really didn't give it a full test and was with mostly guys, not girls, and one guy did
give me some sign of respect (don't remeber what it was) I was not expecting. Ill be trying Chikara tomorrow as
well probably (im gonna try one full pack alone) and see how that goes. if it goes well i may use 2 dabs TE, 1/2-3/4
pack SOE, and 1/2 pack Chikara.
in a completely unrelated topic, I like the scent of the SOE gel packs as its
almost unscented imo, can you explain the difference with it and the roll-on?
No need for the TE, Chikara has you covered there. SOE gel pack scents are the only way to go,
the roll on smells a lot diff and it smells like a perfume. Chikara is great 2-3 sprays on the chest and SOE is
great on the inside of your arms and on your neck.
How many sprays of Chikara
equals a gel pack?
Ill probably spread somewhere between 1/2 pack and a full pack of SOE on my arms and
something equivalent to 2 sprays of Chikara on my neck. Sounds good. Maybe 1 dab of TE? I think C7 may not be enough
on its own for me.
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