I think its different
from guys and girls.Guys go mainly on looks,girls go on looks too,but a lot of other things
I guess.
What is beauty?
Can anybody tell the definition? I don’t think so. Maybe you can say what is esthetic, but
those are two different things. As for some, beauty is one thing and for others different. I know some of my friends
really like fat girls, extra fat, but then I say it’s disgusting. There are no chances they could
be attractive to me no matter of the amount of copulins they are swimming nor how intelligent they are.
Do you
think same things are possible with unattractive, fat male too? Do you have similar experience for yours friends and
large girls?
I think its different
from guys and girls.Guys go mainly on looks,girls go on looks too,but a lot of other things
I guess.
Here is something...
My
girlfriend's ex-boyfriend would rag her how she has stretch marks and imperfections on her body. He even DEMANDED
that she get up an half hour early to do make-up and all that crap... !@#$ HIM!
Him and I are extremely alike in
the respect that we are highly observant and demand perfection. But, alas, there is a extreme difference on the
philosophy of beauty... his is obvious, mine, to me, is imperfection is the essence of beauty.
Without
imperfection what is perfection... without perfection what is imperfection.
Perfection is abnormal.
Imperfection is abnormal.
There is only a fine line to walk... you choose the direction.
-S
"The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!"
Wow, I just read my post... it
does not answer any of your questions...
let's see..
if there is not an attraction then plainly there is not
an attraction...
Everyone wants something different. Looks, brains, karma, money, happyness, security, ect. For
me, personally, what I want is far and few between... it's rare. For most people it is not 'rare'. For the rest
of us .... well... IDK what to type from here... .........
"The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!"
wow man..yes, yes it is...So somethings
really gives me aa idea that maybe just maybe our scent system could be really above visual
(depending)
I've known this young woman for about two years... we are the same age... we worked together and we
had a few no cloths encounters... getting to the point... she, I find is not attractive in the face.. (shallow,
yes)... she is not attractive in IQ... she is not 'dumb' but, we have different worldly perspectives and
observations.... she is a simple women while I am an overly complicated man... I have not talked to her in a
year... but every once and a great while she comes to the place I work.. to work.. and when I stand next to her I
get a half chub and want to jump her bones... I AVOID her... I don't want anything to do with her.. in fact I want
her sister.. (gross!) but... when I am near her the attraction is so incredible I come near to loosing my
cool...
My point is... attraction comes on a plethora of different levels and planes.... some are easy to
identify and some are not...
everyone has qualities and attribute that a potential mate will fall head over heels
for... the only thing, and which I find the most difficult... is finding it. do what you do... be who you are... and
never blow off and opportunity.
__ __ __
I like to call it a 'chemical attraction'...
<--- to
much beer for the night.,..
"The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!"
There's a big difference
between attraction and beauty...
I've meet girls I would say she's perfect and fun, sweet, jokes how I like it, a
little shy and a little game/flirty also..
BUT.. I couldn't get the physical attraction I NEED... Some of these
were big girls and it was too bad because I just CAN'T be with a big girl..
But I think women doesn't mainly go
for looks as I see many really hot girls with dorks and fat guys.. To women it's more the way you are and make them
feel..
If you aren't that big jerk like all the rest of us then she (most of them after all) doesn't care how you
look..
But there's also those girls that will walk away when she doesn't see the look she wants..
But in
general I think women go more for the feelings than looks.. If you doesn't give her that feeling of being safe,
having fun, feeling loved etc. than she will not care how hot you are..
Fx. I have a friend thats a model-like
hot and he can get girls for 1 week but a longer relationship he can't and it's because he get's them hot at
first when they see him, but after a week they realize he's not a charmboy and doesn't makle them feel that
way..
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
Well, I have to say based on
my experience that I don’t look like that on girls. Most of the couples I know when I look deeper I
usually see some material interest from the female side or they are with some total jerk and just a few of them that
are with someone because he is really nice to her. It doesn’t look to me that they like any idealistic sense
to be main in their love.
I have some friends that never had a girl? Why? Because they are educated? Because
they are nice? Because they are not jerks? See the point. Whenever I was looking any girl like she could be nice and
better for me to be nice I have never done anything. And I see a lot of jerks that have much more experience then
any of my educated or really nice friends. What those punks have that we don’t? Is it so called “self
confidence” based on their experience or what? Don’t think that all those nice looking girls with them
are not educated or smart. I was never able to understand that phenomenon smart nice looking girl with total jerk
who doesn’t have a penny in his pocket. Maybe some more experienced people here on this forum could give me an
explanation WHY. I was always admire middle aged coolness that I don’t have. BTW I’m 24.
Nevertheless I’m always trying to be somewhere in the middle all the time if it’s possible.
You do see pretty girls with
jerks a lot and you are right that it is the self confidence or the bad boy image. Nothing new about that at all.
Studies have shown that the bad boy is the one she wants to play with but the stable 'Nice Guy' is who she'll
want to marry and raise a family with.
We've been over this a number of times on this forum. Nice guy means a
lot of different things to a lot of different people. In my eyes there is a huge difference between a nice guy that
acts like a gentleman and the wimpy 'doormat' type that women take advantage of and who are forever stuck in the
LJBF zone. You can be nice to people without allowing them to take advantage of you and by demonstrating the self
confidence to tell a woman no, you win points. By not playing the bad boy or jerk you also can win points. And the
fact that you are different from both groups makes you interesting. I've used that approach all my life and have
been reasonably successful with women. No Cassanova here but have never lacked for an attractive female either.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
The age old proverb holds
true even today, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder." We all have our own different views on what constitutes
beauty... for me its the Nordic Stock, with long hair and the nice hour glass figure (although most women will get
this figure after childbirth).
As for the "Nice Guy" vs. Jerks debate. This has been raging on for quite a while
as Belgareth pointed out. I fall into the category of... Mr.Nice guy~ has money, nice/caring, but insecure. Part of
it is admitting that you are such a person. Over the course of this summer I have gone to great lengths to try to
change some of the basic characteristics that nice guy entails. Through it I came to realized that all of us have
insecurities, but we never focus on our strengths. Thats what I intend to do as I head back to grad.
school.
Believe me I know what your talking about... but it was much worst for me... I went from into LJBF zone
to confused zone (she wasn't sure what she wanted) to Avoid at all cost zone (awkward). Now all I have left is
myself...
I dont really have a problem with big fat girls just so long as they dont squash me or inhibit my
level of leverage control when it it their turn to come over on top for 15 minutes or
so.
If i start to get into breathing diffuculties as i am 70 kg
which is about 10.5 Stone, Well i have very good triceps and i can quickly disengage and toss them back on their
backs without wasting too much time.
And they also
enjoy having the hot little firebrand back on top keeping them under control.
No i for one dont mind fat girls at all, well to be more precise i dont mind any girl Just so
long as she is kissable.
Thats how it usually starts with me,
Attraction i mean, I usually just see a girl who i feel as if i really want to kiss her real bad and i just go for
her.
Sometimes i am genuinly suprised when the time comes that
they want more as it always seems to come around fast before i sometimes even contemplate the idea of extended love
making.
For me it always seems to start with a
kiss.
I will still entertain a woman who i think is not exactly
kissable, especially if they are intent on using me up and leaving me dehydrated
completly.
I really dont mind pleasing them and giving them the
best time of their lives.
And if they are somewhat unsure of
themselves because of a self image insecurity i will actually tell them that they are so sexy and just driving me
out of my mind, and then actions speak louder than words its true, and they always feel better for it.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
I am going to start a new thread next month and take a survey to see how old women may be before they
lose interest in sexual encounters.
And if anyone has experience in this area.
I think the highest i have been is around 60
years.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
Well, the most gorgeous woman
that I know personally - who happens to be a very good friend of mine for 20 years now - has a boyfriend who is not
exactly good looking and has some 20 pounds too much. So yeah, it's perfectly possible that a overweight guy with
(sub-)average looks can get a beautiful woman.
On the other hand - I can't imagine having sex or even a LTR
with a clearly overweight girl. I just can't imagine functioning with someone like this... But - I might be proven
wrong sometime in the future...
bb
It now seems that there is a bit of an epademic of overweight women around at the moment, some of
these gals are extremly beautifull women.
You will have to take one 4 a good test drive Sir Bubble and perhaps give us
your opinion.
It is clearly obvious that some girls who are grossly overweight can be unattractive, so they
probably miss out on the choices of hot guys.
I seen a woman yesterday, she looked about 9" taller than me and not fat, just
very pleasantly plumpish and oh she looked sooo sexy.
I am only
about 5ft 7" tall and i had a girlfriend once and she was a good 9" taller than me, it did not seem to bother her
that i was shorter.
She used to seek me out wherever i was for lovemaking.
I even moved house to live alone and get some
peace in a caravan park, it only took her several days to find me, but still after 20 years can not forget how
good she was.
I wonder what she is doing now.
But i have noticed that sometimes there is definately a set time and place for
an event or relationship to occur in our lives and when the second hand hits the mark neither hell nor high water
can stop the process from unfolding.
I know that we make our action, but sometimes i feel that there is an actual
force guiding me to stay fixed on a certain cource and not deviate.
There are forces at work in our lives that we
are not completly aware of and sometimes these forces effect our relationships with women, and no matter what else
pheromones power money or beauty, they have the power over any other factor or actions that we ourselves make
sometimes.
As it seems somethings are just meant to be or not to be.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
When thinking about it I
know a girl that is heavily build and she really really hot! And know other girls her size and just wants to look
away..
So I don't mind a little but not much...! Some of them are quite nice but depends again how much were
talking..
In fact I like my girls to have a little over the limit.. Skinny girls aren't really me.. Have to have
more than bones and a little over aren't all that bad but again it depends how it falls down from her..
Know
another girl I've been playing around with who used to be really fat but lost weight and is actually quite hot now,
but when I got her panties of..
EW! You know when they have a big bulb right over the puss and then got a normal
stomach.. That kinda thing really isn't me!
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
I am with WorkingMann on
his choice of women, a little more meat on the bones than half the near anorexic girls out there nowadays. Believe
me there is a girl I like quite a bit but one day I saw some blubber on the belly, she not what people call chubby
but shes... a little on the meaty side... It was a turn off but afterwards I felt ashame really because I am suppose
to like her for who she is and her body in general.
Anyone ever feel what I'm talking about?
I like a girl who has meat but
isn't actually fat. Women are supposed to have a certain amount of fat on their bodies. But I expect her to keep
herself in good physical condition. That means a normal body weight, not anorexic.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Can't say meaty or fat turns me
on. I like 'em slender but toned. More of a dancer body with long muscles rather than bulk. Don't care for dancer
feet--all beat to hell--but you can't have everything...
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
In my younger days i was a bit of a root rat and would stab just about anything in
a dress.
But i am a little bit more discerning now that i have matured a little, and i like to check them
out.
It has been mainly due to better luck than management in the past that i have never contracted any
serious social diseases.
I find that girls with big fat calves and fat ankles and or thick stocky necks tend to not
interest me.
I prefer Asian slimline models, even some black velvet is a turn on for me, especially if they
like plenty of loving.
I did get a good dose of CRABS once after having sex with a stunning Indian girl who was a heavy
drug addict.
I was wearing a pair of jeans that my best friend had loaned to me on a one off
occasion.
He
left the next week for Western Australia to go out fox shooting on the Nullabor Plains nearly 2000 miles away with
most of our gang.
There was no way i was going bush and cut myself off from my supply of women and
drugs.
Well
Jim ended up cursing me when he eventually put the jeans on and ended up miles from civilisation with a good dose of
CRABS ha ha. ( in the middle of the dessert )
He was scratching and scratching and he even soaked his scrotum and also the
old boy in diesel fuel ha ha But to no avail, as the Crabs are very persistant.
He tried just about everything to rid off the
infestation.
He never did find any relief to multiplication of
the CRABS for months until he ended up going to Perth W.A. and for $2.00 he got rid of the Crabs in about 2
days.
I am
so glad he had several months to cool of before he returned back to Queanbeyan, where i was at the time.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
lol, good one Terry. At
last I don't have stories like this to share but who knows maybe sometime this year...
some of you
know that my girlfriend and I are swingers. About 5 years ago we went, for the first time, to a swinger's party in
rural Maine. We spent about 2 hours on a dirt road and got there rather late one Saturday night. We were greeted
at the door by a young woman in a baby doll lingerie outfit who must have weighed 300+ pounds, all pure lard. She
proceeded to introduce us to the rest of the folks and every woman there was obese. The outfits they wore didn't
help matters. We had to leave fairly quickly, it was that bad. But, on the other hand, they were having sex with
each other and the guys there.
I've known guys that pursue only heavy-set women, I just don't get it
myself.
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
The key is whether someone
takes care of themselves.
I get turned off more by people who get grossed out just because someone is
overweight, or worse yet, because their friend dates someone who is. I admit, people who get easily grossed out and
disgusted by normal things in nature are a pet peeve.
Having said that, I was talking to a morbidly obese local
singer the other night -- very talented and interesting person, and she smelled literally like vomit. I was
physically repulsed by her presence, no matter what else I thought of her. A smell like that indicates profound
health problems that need to be addressed. Obviously I could never be close to a person like that.
But a
large person who is otherwise healthy and takes good care of themselves can be quite attractive and sexy for many
people.
For my own personal romantic life, slimmer is better. So many people are overweight these days, it can
be very frustrating trying to find a woman to be attracted to. It seems like 9 out of ten people are significantly
overweight any more. I try to be open minded, and could lose five or ten pounds myself, but there's a limit.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
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