Question from a Newbie ...

[ShyAsianGuy26]

WIZ on the 3mls I added to

Pherlure, it does get women to be more pleasant around you... its not much.

3mls diluted up to 30mls of Pherlure

or 3:27 in terms of mix. I can tell you now that two Asian chicks that I hang out with told me that I smell like

sweat with that on. They're just friends, not my type, but obviously they smelled something over the strong scent

of pherlure... the good NPA lol.

More testing will be needed since I am rather new with -mones. Don't want to

waste it at work right now b/c it would be a waste of money.

[WiZ83]

Quite a few people told me

that Asians are kind of sensitive to -none, as it would mostly turn them off.

As for last night's result, it was

kind of disappointing. No hits, no chicks. Nothing ... Sad ... I tried to hit on a pretty hot Hispanic lady, but

she ignored me whole night ...

Anyway, I'm gonna sleep with the pheromones on, without shower. I usually

shower before I sleep, but I want see what kind of experience I get, as in dreams, coz I read some people having

weird dreams/nightmares. Just wanna experience it.

[ShyAsianGuy26]

I can tell you that it is

a turn off for Asian women for their men to smell like -none or at least for the ones that I hang out with.

Caucasians on the other hang are another story... lol my favorite being the typical nordic look... as in blond hair,

blue eyes and hour glass figure (which will come in time).

Anyway, I am trying to improve myself this summer.

Asians are usually light build... so work out a little more. But most importantly practice your personality which

from what I understand is the most important when trying to put -mones to work.

From an dating standpoint....

women are after

1. Intelligence= more money
2. Kindness <--they say they want this but marry jerks and after

being abused they divorce them.
3. Power= more ops in life
4. Money= to support their life style

What type of

girl are you looking for? One-night stand? short-term? long-term?

All these factors play into what you should do.

[WiZ83]

At the moment, I'm looking

for any type that comes into my life. Then I'll figure it from there. I won't get married any time soon, but if

the right one comes by, I might consider that.

And by the way, I woke up this morning, without any dreams, except

a boner (morning erection), which doesn't happen often, but maybe it's just a coincidence?

[WorkingMann]

Test again to check.. Always

do this to see if your result was a coincidence or a real result.. Do the same when testing products.. Test the one

same product and ratio for about a week and then you can come with an conclusion..

[ShyAsianGuy26]

I would say just a

coincidence... lol I deliberately left all the -none on from when I OD'd. The only thing I got was it stunk up my

whole bed for the next few nights until I could air it out.

I think -mones are suppose to intensify your dreams

and such.

Well I hope you have luck on your escapades. Keep us posted.

[ShyAsianGuy26]

But then again... Test and

test again. Who knows you might experience the genuine thing.

[WiZ83]

I've still got a bunch

left, so I'm gonna keep testing. Hope I don't run out any time soon ...

[WiZ83]

Wore the same stuff

yesterday to work, no results.

[WiZ83]

Went to the strip joint yesterday

with a couple of friends, as it was 2-for-1 Tuesday (Buy 1 get 1 Free Lap Dance), used the same combination

again.

I think it did worked out a little bit. I got 1 private lap dance, paid $25, was supposed to get for 2

songs, then she told me she'd give me another song for free, since I'm sweet. So I paid $25 for 3 songs.

The

others, I don't know, there were lots of strippers coming by, sitting on my lap, trying to get me to buy a lap

dance, but they do that to almost everyone at the strip joint. It was really crowded there.

[WiZ83]

Updates:

I've been

getting a couple of hits, with 1 drop of NAP, 2 Spray of Chikara, 12-24 inch of SoE only on my wrists, never apply

any on my neck. But these only work at office, during lunch.

But none of them worked at bars/nightclubs. Never

got any hits at all at the bars/clubs.

I've tried Perception and SoE Gel Pack, and they never seemed to work.

Any suggestions on how to use them? I apply the whole pack before I go clubbing, spread them over wrists, behind

hears, and neck, and never got anything out of it.

[terry0400-40]

Updates:

I've been getting a couple of hits, with 1 drop of NAP, 2

Spray of Chikara, 12-24 inch of SoE only on my wrists, never apply any on my neck. But these only work at office,

during lunch.

But none of them worked at bars/nightclubs. Never got any hits at all at the

bars/clubs.

I've tried Perception and SoE Gel Pack, and they never seemed to work. Any suggestions

on how to use them? I apply the whole pack before I go clubbing, spread them over wrists, behind hears, and neck,

and never got anything out of it.

Re SOE, 24" is about the same

amount of Pheromone content as a new 3/4 Gel/ pkt.

If i decide to go to a club i use about 1+1/2

gel/pkt SOE.

The last time i visited China Town and sat around inside the mall after having applied Dab of NPA

and 40" SOE i had some wonderfull and very flirty positive encounters with more than a few Asian

girls.

And

later on when i was walking beside my girl she just came straight out and said "You have that sexy smell

again"

I

will be again visiting China Town for my herbal supplies and i am going to wear 40" SOE and one spray Chikara, see

how it goes, ill post up and let you know.



To be certain i have had much more success with SOE when i have patted a good

amount of aftershave into my mix.

I think it helps with the diffusion, i really do.
Especially in cold weather or cool conditions.

I also find warm weather is an added bonus in

distributing the pheromones.

[WiZ83]

I'm going to a local club

tonight, which is hosting a Red and White Independence Day part. I guess I'll try 1 drop NPA, 2 spray chikara, and

48" SoE ? What ya recommend? Since I haven't got a hit at clubs as of yet, should I increase the dose of

NPA/Chikara?

[terry0400-40]

I'm

going to a local club tonight, which is hosting a Red and White Independence Day part. I guess I'll try 1 drop NPA,

2 spray chikara, and 48" SoE ? What ya recommend? Since I haven't got a hit at clubs as of yet, should I increase

the dose of NPA/Chikara?

I would not increase the Chikara as i think 2 sprays

is easily enough of that one.

I find that if i put a decent amount of aftershave on with my SOE appliocation it always seems to

be more effective in diffusing the pheromones even over a long period of time.

[WiZ83]

1 Drop NPA, 2 Spray Chikara,

48 inch of SoE, didn't work at the club.

I'm still failing to find the perfect mix for clubs.

[WorkingMann]

Tried these products out as

single ones and see what ratios work for what product..?
Then it's easier to mix more products..

[Kong]

My only positive time at a club I

had about maybe 10" of SoE on my neck and then used Phelure as a cover scent. Other than that I've had little luck

with mones. I'm a smaller/younger guy but should I apply more? I also have a bottle of C7 that is rarely used.

[WiZ83]

NPA can be tried alone? Coz the

smell itself is horrible.

[WiZ83]

Oh by the way, I'm taking a

flight to Hong Kong tomorrow on a business trip, will be there for 3 days, then I will be going back to Malaysia and

chill out for 2 weeks before returning to Rochester, MN.

Anyone got any good mix recommendation for some

mile-high-club?

[graniteking]

Hi - just

posting to this thread because I have a similar story. I started with pheremones the first time with Andros back in

the 90s... Big waste of money - never did anything for me.
Then - a few months back, bought Pherlure... not really

any solid "HIT" - although it is possible it affected one woman I ended up visiting the next day (didn't get

anywhere- but she was vietnamese, in her 50s)

About me:
Caucasian, 37, average build
5'10 and about 230

lbs

I started weight training about November, so am in decent shape - and have been ballroom dancing since about

October.

Today I picked up my starter pack from here - what I got:

The newbie kit - with TE and base
SOE

packs
Perception packs
Chikara

and also got a couple of Edge gel packs

my first experience... came home at

lunch and mixed the edge and base together, not a lot of it... sprayed once and went back to work.

No dramatic

anything - had a girl open up a bit, but I am one who can usually get that anyway. So I don't think it was that

that caused it.

So - since I work at two different offices, went to the other one and on way sprayed once more

with TE. I think that helped a bit - a girl came up to talk to another one at work, and was in my space. I have

danced with this girl, so we have been comfortable together, but not that close at work.

Then just got a

friendlier attitude from the other girls there - although that COULD be partly attributed to it being Friday.

I

went from there to get a massage - cute girl there, and I payed her an hour massage (I have an injury to my

shoulder, she is helping loosen the muscles there) but she ended up going over that by about 15 minutes- plus was

overall with her around 90 minutes, even though I was slated to be there 60. She was very open and talkative, more

so than the last time she gave me a massage. Don't know for sure - but it is possible that it was affected by the

mones.

Then - went to buy a cover scent - had no cologne, so bought some Drakkar - put that on and maybe a bit

overkill, but I want to see what can happen - so two sprays of Chikara too. We will see how it goes when I get to

the dance tonight.

I will keep you posted on it... I do still have the pherlure, thought it may be interesting

to mix with others and seeif any different effects...

But tonight - what it comes down to:

2 sprays of TE

(residual from earllier)
2 sprays of Chikara
Drakkar cover scent

We will see if it is an OD or not

[graniteking]

Ok - I think that was

inconclusive.

I danced - a lot - and every time I didn't dance I had a girl grab me to dance... but that isn't

unusual... I know a lot of these women and they like to dance with me.

I think I may have had a hit or two

though - one girl I didn't know, kept checking me out... and a few people seemed friendlier than usual - but that

could be me not being there for a couple of weeks recovering from an injury too.... Will have to keep trying,

tomorrow am going to try in a new setting, with people who I don't really know. Haven't decided yet what to wear

though.

[belgareth]

Wear exactly what you did this

last time. By consistantly using the same item under different conditions you will get a better idea if it works for

you. Once you do that you can start tweaking it to make the effect more of what you want.

[graniteking]

I will do that - I do

have a couple of other questions...

First - the newbie kit includes a mix with scent and the edge- the edge

doesn't have a dropper but the other one doesn't. I didn't use the dropper adding the edge, just the scent base-

I may not have exactly 1:1 on it. My assumption is that I don't want to use that dropper in the edge, because I

don't want to contaminate the contents of either bottle. For those who mix, do you just pick up droppers somewhere

and use it or what?

Second - what is this everyone is talking about in inches of scent... ?

Woke up this

morning and I can definitely smell the mone's after everything else has worn off - smells kind of strong. I am

going to try scrubbing hard to make sure as much is off as possible. I read something about buildup being a possible

issue. Any thoughts on that one?

And my plan for the week, based on your post here, is:

2 sprays of TE
2

sprays of chikara
cover scent (drakkar)

I will keep it updated here on anything new from it

UPDATE



went out yesterday - was an open-air festival, did a couple of dance lessons.
Nothing I can with certainty

attribute to the mones- I danced with one girl, who was friendly... but that is already my experience with dance. No

noticable glances from anyone along the day... I had stopped into my office and seen a couple of girls there, but

nothing out of the usual.

A little later, went swimming with a friend, and afterwards reapplied, since it had

been several hours since I had put them on. This friend is a girl who I have in the past been VERY close to but I

didn't see anything unusual from her either, even though spent a few hours together.

So where I am at today- I

think I will try one more time today, and one tomorrow. If nothing, I will change it around a bit and see what else

I can do. I have a bunch of perception packs, and may try those starting on Tuesday. With the mix I am using, I want

to find out on one particular girl if it affects her (late 20s, hispanic, very very pretty ) before I move to

another mone.

Update - has now been four days since I got the mones...

Yesterday didn't go out, but have a

friend who lives next door, so figured I would try again and see if she noticed anything. Didn't see any results, 2

sprays of chikara and 2 of TE.

Today, wore 2 and 2 again, went to work, didn't really see any results. Came

home for lunch, refreshed the chikara with 2 shots more... then saw the girl I mentioned. She came by for a couple

of minutes, but I think I OD'd because she wouldn't look at me and seemed kind of uncomfortable.

Tomorrow am

debating whether to try SOE or Perception... I read a lot from people that they think perception is bogus - but

others swear by it. I will update again to see what I can come up with from it all. I plan on wearing whichever one

for the rest of the week to see what happens there... then go to whichever of those two I don't do first.... then

probably start into chikara or TE alone and see where it is. I will try and run for at least 4 days straight before

I change, just so I can see what happens with that particular mone. While I haven't had great results yet, I am

sure that the mix is out there somewhere for me, just need to find it

UPDATE

First day of Perception -

and I was kind of surprised. I have read a LOT of reviews on here saying perception is useless - so didn't really

expect much. I got a set of packets when I ordered my original kit, so I have 9 packets of it.

My experience:

went in to work after 1/2 packet - liked that it has virtually no smell.

1. A girl at work, who rarely says

more than hello, but only after I talk first - said hi while I wasn't even looking at her. May not sound like much,

but I have worked with her a year, and the most I ever got from her was if she needs a favor or something - she

didn't. I took that as a minor hit.
I came home for lunch, having that only as my experience, and decided to use

the rest of the packet. I know I didn't really need a refresher, since I have read how this one lasts for hours and

hours... but figured I would boost it to a full gel pack.
A couple of surprising things then:

2. The girl I

mentioned previously in this post (the one who I think I od'd with yesterday) - who is my neighbor, on very close

terms... but hasn't really been talking to me much for a month or two. She started a little bit of flirting -

nothing major, and not TOO out of her norm... but then she started talking - ALOT. I have talked to her a lot - in

fact have been more than friends with her - but we haven't been as much talking since we decided to not have the

benefits. So that was kind of out of the norm.

3. A girl I have danced with, had been kind of chatty with

before... but not in a month or so, since we had stopped dancing together (I had expressed an interest in her

before, and she since then had been avoiding me) all of a sudden was very very chatty today. This morning, I saw her

and got a smile from her, not unusual, but after lunch she was very talkative. Seemed like she kept asking things

just to keep me around to talk more.

4. Went to a store on the way home, and saw a girl there... looked several

times her direction and kept finding her looking away from my eyes when I looked her way. Admittedly, I have VERY

blue eyes (contacts ) but still that wasn't my normal experience with it. I do get stares sometimes but not ones

that keep looking away when I look at them.

Ages of the first three are girls all around early 40s. The 4th was

a girl probably early 20s.

Overall, I was very impressed with this one. I look forward to seeing how the other

ones do for me But, I am going to keep on with perception for a few more days before I move on to trying SOE.



I was also thinking about maybe getting some Alpha 7, and possibly liquid trust. Any experience on those?



UPDATE again

Was out swimming so was pretty sure the perception was gone... so I sprayed 4 sprays of TE (2

came out partially, so I think closer to three sprays total) and got a DEFINITE overdose

The above mentioned

girl who lives next door commented "something stinks" and her and my sis who were both here went over to her house

instead of hanging around here.

UPDATE day two with perception

RAINY day here. I found the big drawback to

this one... almost all of it washed off going outside I think. No hits that I noticed.

Question - WAGG vs A314

- which would be the best way to make approachable? or would SOE or something else do it?

[graniteking]

nothing yet

- 1/2 gel pack of Soe- I didn't notice any hits on this so far. Will try today at 1 pack - I only did 2 days of

perception because of the weather. Once I saw how fast it goes away on rainy days, decided to save it for dry

days.

[vendettaseve]

nothing yet - 1/2 gel pack of Soe- I didn't notice any hits on this so far. Will try

today at 1 pack - I only did 2 days of perception because of the weather. Once I saw how fast it goes away on rainy

days, decided to save it for dry days.

Hey man
I have read thsi whole thread over and have come away

with a few feelings on the issue. I admittedly dont know anything about mones but what iv read on here, as I am

still awaiting mine in the mail, however I would just like to say, there is such a thing as trying to hard, Take it

easy, take it slow, If I were you id try cutting everything your using in half, and try a different cologne, I find

Gravity tends to draw them in even without mones ^.^ Your current scent leaves girls with a funny impression, Used

to use it myself, smells nice but doesnt do the job.

Thats my advice to you, im going to say this again, I really

dont know much about mones but I do have an oppinion oddly enugh.

ALSO one note to Wiz,
Night clubs are evil my

friend, dont go to them with hopes of picking up, as with bars, Girls know that thier just meat in there, and

ultimatly thier defences are so high because they know your just there to pick up that you really wont get anywhere

very often. Go somewhere quiet, Public librarys are wonderful for this, as with Malls etc, Iv found from experience,

that if you shop in girly stores, girls hang off you, Im Canadian so I dont know if you have Claires or Ardenes

around where your from, but find an equivalent, make jokes about not knowing what your doing in there and youl take

them home, without mones Or so I find.

Thanks for listening
V

[CptKipling]

nothing yet - 1/2 gel pack of Soe- I didn't notice any hits on this so far. Will try

today at 1 pack - I only did 2 days of perception because of the weather. Once I saw how fast it goes away on rainy

days, decided to save it for dry days.

What kinds of things did you do while wearing it?

[graniteking]

For the most part, just went

into work. There is a LOT of traffic there, although I maybe only see 10 to 15 girls there a day- aside from the

girls I work with of course.

As a side note - wore 1/2 pack SoE yesterday - noticed nothing,

Today tried 1

full pack, and one of the girls I work with started rubbing my shoulders with no suggesting from me - was all

spontaneous on it, and she has not done this in the year I have known her. Not a likely candidate for me, being

older (late 50s) and married... But still, I do attribute the reaction to the SoE


Was thinking

about going to Barnes and Noble and hanging out a while over the weekend, since it is across the road from me



BTW - one other note - using perception as well as SoE - have had no cover scent at all, as my work environment

requires a low profile scent-wise. I really like that perception has a soft scent, not overpowering, so can get away

without cover, same with the SoE.
I do have 3 bottles (my bad) of that OTHER place's non-existent pheremone

cologne - but I do like the scent, so was thinking to use it in a mix with TE to cover the musky smell of TE. I am

just writing it off as an over-priced mistake for cologne, since have only ever seen one potential hit with it after

using it for a couple of months.

[graniteking]

Ok - day 2

of SoE -

one full packet this morning - nothing that I saw... (went to work, around several women).

Think

it all wore off by this evening - 1/2 pack at 7:30 to meet a girl at 8:00, cover of drakkar

Not a sexual hit -

her and I have talked before, as friends... we spent 2 hours walking and talking. All the time walking she held onto

my arm - but this girl is one I have been on hugging terms with for a while anyway. So was this at all related to

the scent? I have no clue - very possibly not. But then, just have to find out with more tests

[WiZ83]

Sigh ... I tried all kinds

of combos now and haven't got much of a success. The only thing that I think worked for me at the moment is SoE, as

I've got some people really chatty, other than that, I haven't seen any results from other products that I have

tested since I used them a couple months ago.

[Iaskalotof?'s]

I see that you use

NPA,which is kind of advanced.Why did you choose to use that?