Anyone able to help?
First of all,
hi, I'm new to this community, and generally new to pheromones.
Here's my story. How I encountered and learnt
about pheromones. I saw quite some advertisements, on Pherlure, and actually made a purchase, for 2 bottles get 1
free, for a total of $90 (for all 3 bottles shipped). I've used it for the last 2 weeks, and didn't notice any
differences, till yesterday maybe, I got hit at the gas station's cashier, saying I smell good, but I don't know
if it's just coz of the smell, or the phermones are actually working. I've done quite some research around lately,
and lots of people and websites, that aren't Pherlure related, claims Pherlure is a scam, and the ingredient they
claimed exists in them doesn't exist at all, so I might just try to return them, or maybe try it for another week
or so?
Anyway, I'm working at Rochester, MN, with IBM, and I'm 24 years old, graduated 2 years ago. I'm asian,
5'8", normal looking guy, around 180-190 lbs, and I'm originally born in Malaysia, of 100% pure Chinese
descendant, graduated in the USA with a degree, and got my job working now. I don't have problems getting girls
back in my home country, but sort of struggling to find my momentum here in the states.
I have just placed quite
a large order with Love-Scent, considering it's my first purchase with them, mostly the combo deals, and here's
what I'll be getting in the mail sometime between this week and next week:-
- Chikara
- Scent of Eros
-
NPA
- Super Primal
- The Edge
- And those freebies sample gel packs
And I've already currently own
these:-
- CK One
- CK Escape
- CK Eternity
- Davidoff Cool Water
- Boss #6 by Hugo Boss
- Hugo Cologne
by Hugo Boss
- Issey Miyake
- Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male
- Pherlure (at least till I return them for
refund)
I plan to use all these products to a great combination, and since I'm new to all of them, and
pheromones in general, I need help in finding the perfect combination. I plan to use these for the following:-
-
Office environment (most of the time I work remotely from home, but I have to go to office a couple times a week,
and I share an office with 3 other guys, and a lady)
- Bars/Clubs over the weekends
- Jazz Club (occasionally when
my colleagues need a place to relax after work)
- Poker Night (every Wednesday, a lot of my colleagues, males and
females, join up in one of our houses, and start up poker game, usually around 8 people, has been consisting 5 men,
and 3-4 women mostly)
I'm actually quite interested in one of my fellow co-worker, who's working at another
department within IBM, met her about 1-2 years ago, but haven't got the chance to talk much. I was thinking of
trying to approach her, and get some talking going, and hopefully, secure a date in the future (hopefully soon). I
don't know her exact age, but if I had to guess, I'd say around 23-28, seemed to look like she's a mixture of
Caucasian and Asian. The only time we get to talk is when she had to come over to my department to hand some
files/documents over.
Additional Info: I do have an Asian accent, which I don't know if it's going to affect
me. And I own a 2007 BMW 335i Coupe, which is pretty decent. Initially I thought I could get ladies with my car, but
I haven't got any since I broke up with my ex-girlfriend, so car doesn't help at all.
And I'm planning to
travel home to look for family and friends back in Malaysia in about 1 month's time, and hope that everything works
out back in Asia. Read that Asians tend to not like the smell of -none's, but I need more info.
Besides that,
since I'm only 24, and graduated 2 years ago, most of the people I know that works with me are older than me, and
already have a family, therefore I'd have to go to the bar mostly by myself. Any tips on meeting girls? I'm kind
of a shy guy on approaching strangers, especially female encounters, and tips on how to work on this would be
appreciated. It's kind of sad that my girlfriend left me, coz I'm living in an apartment all by myself now, 2
bedrooms, and it's kind of quiet. Since I'm not originally from USA, I've got no family members here, so I'm
desperate in getting out of the loneliness disease.
Comments/tips are well appreciated. Thanks a lot. I hope
that's not too much questions at a go (although I know it's a long post). :P
Last edited by WiZ83; 06-21-2007 at 06:54 AM.
Anyone able to help?
You'll have to be more specific
on which Hugo Boss fragrance you have. HB makes a Hugo line and a Boss line (Boss is more businesslike, Hugo seems
more nightclubby, plus there's a Hugo In Motion that's citrusy/sporty).
The Edge (if it's scented) is
sandalwood scented, so try to match on that. Basenotes.net is a great place to research what's in respective
fragrances. If you also happen upon a good cologne salesperson, they should be able to tell you as well.
I'd
suggest TE/SOE for experimenting and maybe graduating to NPA when you're serious. Haven't tried the NPA, but the
stories seem to suggest it's worth saving till you step up to the proverbial majors.
I'd also suggest
adding Lucky 6 to your cologne collection, it has an intriguing oriental scent to it that would probably go well
with your background, and IMHO it's the best cologne I have at mixing with pheros (the others being Drakkar Noir,
Armani Code, and Terre d'Hermes).
Most of all, don't hesitate to experiment and (most importantly) put
yourself in situations to meet women!
Dude, the only ladies interested in
you because of the BMW are not worth knowing. You want a woman that likes you for who you are, not what you drive.
Sure pheromones can help and probably will but in the end it's the person on the inside that gets to keep the
girl.
If you're lonely , go out and join some clubs , maybe even the local car enthusiasts club if you are into
that sort of thing. BTW , woman love dancing so a salsa/swing/ballroom class is major single girl territory.
Good
luck!
early 40's white male or or
I wouldn't say the girls
interested in your BMW aren't worth knowing. They're probably worth knowing in the biblical sense, but not the
dating sense, if you know what I mean.
And as much as I'd like to believe that flowery "it's
what's inside that counts" stuff, as far as physical relationships, girls WANT the cocky asshole and not the meek
nice guy. You should tailor your personality/approach based on what you're looking for.
I got 2 bottles of Hugo Boss.
-
Boss #6 by Hugo Boss
- Cologne Hugo by Hugo Boss
I'm personally not a big fan of Drakkar Noir, my dad loves it,
it gives me an impression that I'm old, as I'm only 24. I've read a lot of comments on Armani Code as well, but
I'm not a big fan Armani's lineup of fragrance. Most of them reminds me of the smell of toilet. So there's
nothing I can do with what I have? And I've forgot to mention I have Davidoff Cool Water, too.
Anyway, I wasn't
exactly expecting to get any serious ladies with my car, but I could expect to get someone to solve my loneliness
problems once a while, but that isn't the case. All my colleagues and friends think I should score big time with
that car, as it shows a status in a man, reliability and career, but I probably don't know how to put it into play
effectively.
Anyway, I could probably spend another $100-$150 within the next 1 month as soon as I get a refund
on my Pherlure ($80), and I'm looking to add other Pheromones or Fragrances. Lots of people say the A314 are great,
and how do they differ, compared to all those I mentioned that I purchased? And since I'll be traveling in a months
time, I'll be checking out more fragrances at the airport's duty free shop. Till then, I want to stick with what I
already have, so any experience with any of those fragrances/pheromones combo that I already have would really help.
My personal favorite at the moment are Escape, Eternity, and Cool Water.
Well, I pretty much had
the same experience with Pherlure except I only brought one bottle. Some of the ladies seem to like it but I think
its a rather feminine, but kept it anyway.
I mixed some NPA in it about 3mls or so. It became a rather decent
cologne spiked. I have the same problem with women... the NPA does increase their interest but don't put to much
NPA on because they get weird around you, not sure if its because Asians aren't meant to have to much -mones
on.
Atm, I have some SOE, C7 (chikara), NPA and some gene packs which needs more testing. But I can tell you that
SOE is the real deal.
You mean, mix 3ml of NPA
into 30ml of Pherlure actually does the job?
Damn man ... I've ordered
all those ... one of the local club here has a special night tomorrow ... Porn Stars gonna come clubbing here ...
I'm probably gonna go over there and have some fun ... but then my orders aren't in yet, not at least till next
week I guess ... unless miracles happen ...
Wiz: Why not go anyways? I think
the worst thing that can happen is you go there and don't talk to the porn stars.
Get your dance and game on,
bro!
Try to talk to them if for no other reason than it's good practice talking to beautiful women. Being able
to talk to them helps inspire confidence, which meshes with the mone signal you'd be sending out (especially with
-None).
I think the important thing to remember is that mones are one part of a complete package you present to
women. If you wear mones but aren't really presentable, it might not present a consistent image to the woman. If
you don't present a consistent image to women, they call bullshit and there's NO way you can advance. Of course,
the non-presentable thing might say that you don't give a damn, and sometimes that's a turn-on.
I'm just
saying that you have to place mones in context with other things. Are you trying to get into better shape? Do you
have a wardrobe that's impressive? If you're just using mones to attract women and not changing anything else
about yourself, it would be like just working on one muscle group in your body trying to get into shape. And you'd
look like the guy on that Red Stripe "Moderation" commercial.
So use the porn star special thing as a way to
practice your game/approach and build your confidence. Even if you get shot down, you'll better know what works and
what doesn't. Edison had THOUSANDS of prototypes for the light bulb before he found one that worked well. It's a
good thing he never gave up! Even trying and failing can help your game. If your game is good, you look/feel good,
AND you have mones, heaven help the women you meet.
I'm definitely going to hit
the club tomorrow.
I guess I'll be experimenting stuffs.
All I've got now is Pherlure, I'll put it into
some serious test tomorrow.
There are 2 porn stars there tomorrow, and if I successfully bring one home, which is
unlikely, then I'd be the stud of the night. I bet there will be hundreds of people there, maybe a thousand ? I
don't know ... it's very well advertised ... they hand out flyers everywhere, posting posters, and putting them
onto car wipers ... cover charge will be $20 though ... it's usually $10 ... meh ...
Argh, I just checked their
website, and notice they have a dress code.
It's Pink Porn Star night, everyone has to wear pink, which I don't
have.
Wiz: Go out and buy a pink dress
shirt or polo before heading to the club. I think pink is actually in style now for men. Shouldn't be too hard to
find something.
Or just go and get a pink feather boa.
Seriously, though, I've been reading
that little stuff like that (if you have the outgoing personality to pull it off) can be a good conversation starter
with women. At the very least, it gets them curious.
Good luck with the Pherlune and porn stars. You better
fill us in on how it went afterwards.
Don't worry ... I'll keep
you guys updated ... Pink ... hmm ... I'll see what I can get at the local mall ... Feather Boa ... Interesting ...
:P
Last edited by WiZ83; 06-22-2007 at 04:11 AM.
I have
had some insane attention from women and also young women when wearing NPA and SOE ,
Funny thing though you have to get the
NPA right though or you will get nothing.
Sometimes i have gone out with my fresh mix on and have been completly ignored
by women as if i did not exist at all, and
Then after about an hour the hits just start to pour in, it seems to me that my
few good dabs of NPA must be an OD in the early stages
On the other hand i always tend to put more
on because it is just like a little runny alcohol and i think how can a few insignificant dabs of this do
anything
Well i have been beceived because i realize that the very smallest dabs of NPA can have a big
effect.
I
would say if you can not learn to be light handed with the NPA then go for a small spray of TE to start things
off.
I think
if it wasent for the grace of the SOE then so many of us could OD easily on NPA or other heavy weight aNONE
products.
Remember a drop of PI or A7 is around 20 mcg aNONE and drop NPA is close to
it,
Asian
women can easily notice 1/4 drop or around 5mcg aNONE,
So when trawling for Asian Babes even 3mcg is
enough to register on their sensitivities,
And "when used alone" it is very easy to get the attention of most suceptable
women with between 5 mcg or 12 mcg Anone.
I have noticed some young men not getting the results they have envisioned with
pheromones, and all i can say is go easy on the Androstenone as you already make heaps of the stuff
natutally.
I
think all young men beginning on the road with pheromones should have some SOE or some WAGG or a combination of both
to use as softening and attraction agents to start off their collection, and to
have some on standby when using concentrated
Androstenone products.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
You guys know what? I placed
all those orders at 4am 20th June (Wednesday), then the order was shipped out from Colorado on 20th June 11am, and
it arrived here today Friday 22nd June at 1:20pm. I was using regular First Class Mail, I received the package right
after I went to the mall during my lunch break to get a Pink Shirt, and went home and put the shirt on, and saw the
post man there. All I can say is, I'm very impressed with Love-Scent's service, and best still, USPS's First
Class mail took 2 days to get it shipped from Colorado, which is about 22 hours drive away from here.
I will have
the opportunity to test them to the full extent tonight. I will keep everybody posted.
Good luck tonight. NPA + SOE +
Porn stars = uh oh. You better come back with some good stories!
Also, don't assume that they'll bang you
right away just because they're porn stars. Most of the behind-the-scenes stuff they do with porn stars show they
treat it just like a normal job.
Still, it should be fun. Knock em dead!
Okay, these is what I got, I
need someone to recommend me something to put on, something to start with before I head over visit those porn
stars.
- 15ml Chikara
- NPA Pheromone Additive
- Musk Oil with Pheromones (Came with Noob Combo, don't know
what's this)
- Atomizer (Empty Bottle, don't know what to mix in it)
- 10ml Scent of Eros (Roller)
- 24ml The
Edge (I don't know if this is Scented/Unscented/Concentrate? I'm confused with the instructions that came with
it)
A Bunch (as in a lot, like 21 packs of Gel Packs (below):
- 3x Alter Ego The Packet
- 6x The Edge for Him
Pheromone Attractant
- 3x Chikara Gel Pack
- 5x Scent of Eros Gel Pack
- 4x Perception Human Pheromone Attractant
1ml
Please tell me what to start with.
And on top of those mentioend above, are the colognes I mentioned in
the original post.
Please tell me what to start with, I've got another 6-7 hours before I head over to the club.
Before 10pm, 50% cover charge.
Oh by the way, I opened up every bottles to sniff it a bit, I don't know
if this is the effect of it, my mouth seemed to be a bit runny, as in, it's wet, full of saliva, for the last 15
minutes, is this common?
Just got home from
work.
Still no recommendation?
What I'm planning to do, if I don't get any response, is to do these ...
-
apply 2 dabs of NPA ...
- then roll 12 inches of SoE ...
- then cover with 2 sprays of Chikara ...
- thinking if
I should cover with my other colognes? CK Escape ? Eternity ? Cool Water ? I don't know how they'd blend ...
-
still deciding if I should spay to my upperchest/neck, or wrist ... sigh ...
Please, someone tell me if what I
planned above is too much ... trying to achieve something tonight ... whether porn stars or not ... I hope I'm not
firing blank ... lol I'm probably a bit too ambitious, but ... oh well ...
I would just stick with the NPA and
SoE, a proven mix.
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
How much NPA, and how much
SoE? Don't I need any cover scent?
Just a DROP of NPA. Apparently
any more can be an overdose.
If you have the roller, 12" to 24" of SOE seems like the preferred
amount.
Haven't tried either, but other posts seem to suggest this might be a good mix.
You MIIIGHT
be able to get away with 2 drops of NPA since these girls probably are used to dealing with alpha guys (they do so
at work). I'd keep a pocket wet wipe handy so you can clean up if you notice any OD reactions to the NPA.
I'd say cover it up with Le
Male, unless the SoE is scented. If SoE is scented, I'll try to look up what would go with it.
Hi ... as promised ..
here's my story ...
What I did was:
- 1 full drop of NPA
- approimately 12 inch of SoE
- 2 sprays of
Chikara
- 2 sprays of CK Escape
They were all applied to my wrist, rubbed both wrist together, and then rubbed
it over my neck. I applied extra 1 spray of CK Escape to my neck ...
Experience ... I went clubbing by myself ...
there were 3 porn stars there total ... and a porn industry producer throwing the party ... and having a contest,
where 1 person will get a chance to be the next porn star, and win a boob job ...
Anyway, I went there, got a
couple drink, dance a bit, I wasn't great at dancing, then sat by the bar for a while, and tried to get some eye
contacts ... I didn't notice much, as I didn't have ladies approaching me ... so after an hour or so, I decided to
approach 4 ladies sitting by a table, talked a bit and stuffs ... exchanged telephone numbers, I gave them my
name/business card, they gave me theirs, on my cell phone ... I don't know if I got the real deal/number, as I
haven't gave them a call yet ... anyway, these 3 out of 4 of those ladies were pretty hot, and I won't mind
hooking up with them soon. We talked a lot, and dance for a while, I kinda sucked at dancing, so I don't know if I
actually embarassed myself there ... but they seemed to giggle or laugh a lot at me ... maybe I'm their laughing
stock ? I don't know if there's any effects from the mones I applied ... It was pretty crazy, as I really made
myself do stuffs I don't usually do ... got a couple drink, and toss myself towards these 4 pretty ladies table and
invited myself to sit down and chat with them ...
Anyway, I'm going to another bar tonight ... I don't know if
I should use the same combination ...
P.S. - I got home empty handed, yet again ... But I got 4 new numbers
on my cell ... which I don't know if they're actual working numbers ... won't know till maybe a couple days
later, I'll try calling ... Didn't score, so it's kinda disappointing night? Or maybe went pretty well, don't
know yet, we'll see ...
Not bad, Rome was
not built in a day.
And at least you have got out and shown some
initiative, so good work, Action leads to results, as long as it is good fun and enjoyable keep at it and the sweet
fruits will be in your hand.
When i go out to Bad girls or to a club i get really good results with NPA x 1 drop + about 48"
SOE ( this is about the same as 1+1/2 gel/ pkt SOE ) and also 2 sprays of C7.
When i have had on 48" SOE with my A7 or NPA i have had comments from chicks saying " you smell
sexy"
It may
seem to some forum members that i am being extravagent with my SOE use, But between 32" and 48" works wonders for me
depending upon the venue and circumstances.
I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....
Being their laughing stock
aren't always bad.. If you aren't embarrassed or let it get to you women can take it as a good thing and you just
are a funny dude that aren't gonna be embarrassed by little things and that shows you're a mann that stands by
what he does and says..
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
I'd say that them laughing at
you is either really good or really bad. Phero wearers on here seem to get a giggle response when women are nervous,
but it could also be that they were indeed laughing AT you. I think it depends on how confident you observed them to
be. If they were confident, they probably were laughing AT you, but if not, they were probably nervous. Also, I
think if they were giggling AT you, it's a sign of interest. If they were giggling while facing their friends,
perhaps not.
It's good that you showed initiative. It's not too often that the girl comes up to you, even
with pheros. It takes pheromones AND some good game to get women.
I'd suggest buying/reading one of the many
pickup books (Mystery Method, et al) so you have the right mindset when approaching women. These systems teach the
confident guy approach that you'll need to appear congruent while wearing -None. If you wear -None and still act
like a wimpy guy, it's a turn-off because what she's seeing doesn't match up with what she's smelling.
4
numbers is good, but keep at it. Screen the ladies, if you aren't interested in them (or they aren't interested in
you) you can still be friends with them and use them to help out your other conquests.
Keep at it!
I'll see what happens tonight
when I put on more SoE tonight. Maybe try 24 inches tonight. :P
Will keep you guys updated.
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