Question from a Newbie ...

[WiZ83]

First of all,

hi, I'm new to this community, and generally new to pheromones.

Here's my story. How I encountered and learnt

about pheromones. I saw quite some advertisements, on Pherlure, and actually made a purchase, for 2 bottles get 1

free, for a total of $90 (for all 3 bottles shipped). I've used it for the last 2 weeks, and didn't notice any

differences, till yesterday maybe, I got hit at the gas station's cashier, saying I smell good, but I don't know

if it's just coz of the smell, or the phermones are actually working. I've done quite some research around lately,

and lots of people and websites, that aren't Pherlure related, claims Pherlure is a scam, and the ingredient they

claimed exists in them doesn't exist at all, so I might just try to return them, or maybe try it for another week

or so?

Anyway, I'm working at Rochester, MN, with IBM, and I'm 24 years old, graduated 2 years ago. I'm asian,

5'8", normal looking guy, around 180-190 lbs, and I'm originally born in Malaysia, of 100% pure Chinese

descendant, graduated in the USA with a degree, and got my job working now. I don't have problems getting girls

back in my home country, but sort of struggling to find my momentum here in the states.

I have just placed quite

a large order with Love-Scent, considering it's my first purchase with them, mostly the combo deals, and here's

what I'll be getting in the mail sometime between this week and next week:-

- Chikara
- Scent of Eros
-

NPA
- Super Primal
- The Edge
- And those freebies sample gel packs

And I've already currently own

these:-


- CK One
- CK Escape
- CK Eternity
- Davidoff Cool Water
- Boss #6 by Hugo Boss
- Hugo Cologne

by Hugo Boss
- Issey Miyake
- Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male

- Pherlure (at least till I return them for

refund)

I plan to use all these products to a great combination, and since I'm new to all of them, and

pheromones in general, I need help in finding the perfect combination. I plan to use these for the following:-

-

Office environment (most of the time I work remotely from home, but I have to go to office a couple times a week,

and I share an office with 3 other guys, and a lady)
- Bars/Clubs over the weekends
- Jazz Club (occasionally when

my colleagues need a place to relax after work)
- Poker Night (every Wednesday, a lot of my colleagues, males and

females, join up in one of our houses, and start up poker game, usually around 8 people, has been consisting 5 men,

and 3-4 women mostly)

I'm actually quite interested in one of my fellow co-worker, who's working at another

department within IBM, met her about 1-2 years ago, but haven't got the chance to talk much. I was thinking of

trying to approach her, and get some talking going, and hopefully, secure a date in the future (hopefully soon). I

don't know her exact age, but if I had to guess, I'd say around 23-28, seemed to look like she's a mixture of

Caucasian and Asian. The only time we get to talk is when she had to come over to my department to hand some

files/documents over.

Additional Info: I do have an Asian accent, which I don't know if it's going to affect

me. And I own a 2007 BMW 335i Coupe, which is pretty decent. Initially I thought I could get ladies with my car, but

I haven't got any since I broke up with my ex-girlfriend, so car doesn't help at all.

And I'm planning to

travel home to look for family and friends back in Malaysia in about 1 month's time, and hope that everything works

out back in Asia. Read that Asians tend to not like the smell of -none's, but I need more info.

Besides that,

since I'm only 24, and graduated 2 years ago, most of the people I know that works with me are older than me, and

already have a family, therefore I'd have to go to the bar mostly by myself. Any tips on meeting girls? I'm kind

of a shy guy on approaching strangers, especially female encounters, and tips on how to work on this would be

appreciated. It's kind of sad that my girlfriend left me, coz I'm living in an apartment all by myself now, 2

bedrooms, and it's kind of quiet. Since I'm not originally from USA, I've got no family members here, so I'm

desperate in getting out of the loneliness disease.

Comments/tips are well appreciated. Thanks a lot. I hope

that's not too much questions at a go (although I know it's a long post). :P

[WiZ83]

Anyone able to help?

[BGuy20]

You'll have to be more specific

on which Hugo Boss fragrance you have. HB makes a Hugo line and a Boss line (Boss is more businesslike, Hugo seems

more nightclubby, plus there's a Hugo In Motion that's citrusy/sporty).

The Edge (if it's scented) is

sandalwood scented, so try to match on that. Basenotes.net is a great place to research what's in respective

fragrances. If you also happen upon a good cologne salesperson, they should be able to tell you as well.

I'd

suggest TE/SOE for experimenting and maybe graduating to NPA when you're serious. Haven't tried the NPA, but the

stories seem to suggest it's worth saving till you step up to the proverbial majors.

I'd also suggest

adding Lucky 6 to your cologne collection, it has an intriguing oriental scent to it that would probably go well

with your background, and IMHO it's the best cologne I have at mixing with pheros (the others being Drakkar Noir,

Armani Code, and Terre d'Hermes).

Most of all, don't hesitate to experiment and (most importantly) put

yourself in situations to meet women!

[gaf]

Dude, the only ladies interested in

you because of the BMW are not worth knowing. You want a woman that likes you for who you are, not what you drive.

Sure pheromones can help and probably will but in the end it's the person on the inside that gets to keep the

girl.
If you're lonely , go out and join some clubs , maybe even the local car enthusiasts club if you are into

that sort of thing. BTW , woman love dancing so a salsa/swing/ballroom class is major single girl territory.
Good

luck!

[BGuy20]

I wouldn't say the girls

interested in your BMW aren't worth knowing. They're probably worth knowing in the biblical sense, but not the

dating sense, if you know what I mean.

And as much as I'd like to believe that flowery "it's

what's inside that counts" stuff, as far as physical relationships, girls WANT the cocky asshole and not the meek

nice guy. You should tailor your personality/approach based on what you're looking for.

[gaf]

You should

tailor your personality/approach based on what you're looking for.

Thats what I do now , I do the

qualifying and holy crap it works for me.
It's great fun teasing the crap out of the golddiggers too , they

just fall apart once they realise you are on to them!

[WiZ83]

I got 2 bottles of Hugo Boss.

-

Boss #6 by Hugo Boss
- Cologne Hugo by Hugo Boss

I'm personally not a big fan of Drakkar Noir, my dad loves it,

it gives me an impression that I'm old, as I'm only 24. I've read a lot of comments on Armani Code as well, but

I'm not a big fan Armani's lineup of fragrance. Most of them reminds me of the smell of toilet. So there's

nothing I can do with what I have? And I've forgot to mention I have Davidoff Cool Water, too.

Anyway, I wasn't

exactly expecting to get any serious ladies with my car, but I could expect to get someone to solve my loneliness

problems once a while, but that isn't the case. All my colleagues and friends think I should score big time with

that car, as it shows a status in a man, reliability and career, but I probably don't know how to put it into play

effectively.

Anyway, I could probably spend another $100-$150 within the next 1 month as soon as I get a refund

on my Pherlure ($80), and I'm looking to add other Pheromones or Fragrances. Lots of people say the A314 are great,

and how do they differ, compared to all those I mentioned that I purchased? And since I'll be traveling in a months

time, I'll be checking out more fragrances at the airport's duty free shop. Till then, I want to stick with what I

already have, so any experience with any of those fragrances/pheromones combo that I already have would really help.

My personal favorite at the moment are Escape, Eternity, and Cool Water.

[ShyAsianGuy26]

Well, I pretty much had

the same experience with Pherlure except I only brought one bottle. Some of the ladies seem to like it but I think

its a rather feminine, but kept it anyway.

I mixed some NPA in it about 3mls or so. It became a rather decent

cologne spiked. I have the same problem with women... the NPA does increase their interest but don't put to much

NPA on because they get weird around you, not sure if its because Asians aren't meant to have to much -mones

on.

Atm, I have some SOE, C7 (chikara), NPA and some gene packs which needs more testing. But I can tell you that

SOE is the real deal.

[WiZ83]

You mean, mix 3ml of NPA

into 30ml of Pherlure actually does the job?

[BGuy20]

Well,

I pretty much had the same experience with Pherlure except I only brought one bottle. Some of the ladies seem to

like it but I think its a rather feminine, but kept it anyway.

I mixed some NPA in it about 3mls or so. It became

a rather decent cologne spiked. I have the same problem with women... the NPA does increase their interest but

don't put to much NPA on because they get weird around you, not sure if its because Asians aren't meant to have to

much -mones on.

Atm, I have some SOE, C7 (chikara), NPA and some gene packs which needs more testing. But I can

tell you that SOE is the real deal.

Weird is precisely the thing I want women to be around me.

MEOW!

It seems like NPA + SOE makes women go INSANE from what I've read on here. Can't wait to order it

and try!

[WiZ83]

Damn man ... I've ordered

all those ... one of the local club here has a special night tomorrow ... Porn Stars gonna come clubbing here ...

I'm probably gonna go over there and have some fun ... but then my orders aren't in yet, not at least till next

week I guess ... unless miracles happen ...

[BGuy20]

Wiz: Why not go anyways? I think

the worst thing that can happen is you go there and don't talk to the porn stars.

Get your dance and game on,

bro!

Try to talk to them if for no other reason than it's good practice talking to beautiful women. Being able

to talk to them helps inspire confidence, which meshes with the mone signal you'd be sending out (especially with

-None).

I think the important thing to remember is that mones are one part of a complete package you present to

women. If you wear mones but aren't really presentable, it might not present a consistent image to the woman. If

you don't present a consistent image to women, they call bullshit and there's NO way you can advance. Of course,

the non-presentable thing might say that you don't give a damn, and sometimes that's a turn-on.

I'm just

saying that you have to place mones in context with other things. Are you trying to get into better shape? Do you

have a wardrobe that's impressive? If you're just using mones to attract women and not changing anything else

about yourself, it would be like just working on one muscle group in your body trying to get into shape. And you'd

look like the guy on that Red Stripe "Moderation" commercial.

So use the porn star special thing as a way to

practice your game/approach and build your confidence. Even if you get shot down, you'll better know what works and

what doesn't. Edison had THOUSANDS of prototypes for the light bulb before he found one that worked well. It's a

good thing he never gave up! Even trying and failing can help your game. If your game is good, you look/feel good,

AND you have mones, heaven help the women you meet.

[WiZ83]

I'm definitely going to hit

the club tomorrow.

I guess I'll be experimenting stuffs.

All I've got now is Pherlure, I'll put it into

some serious test tomorrow.

There are 2 porn stars there tomorrow, and if I successfully bring one home, which is

unlikely, then I'd be the stud of the night. I bet there will be hundreds of people there, maybe a thousand ? I

don't know ... it's very well advertised ... they hand out flyers everywhere, posting posters, and putting them

onto car wipers ... cover charge will be $20 though ... it's usually $10 ... meh ...

[WiZ83]

Argh, I just checked their

website, and notice they have a dress code.

It's Pink Porn Star night, everyone has to wear pink, which I don't

have.

[BGuy20]

Wiz: Go out and buy a pink dress

shirt or polo before heading to the club. I think pink is actually in style now for men. Shouldn't be too hard to

find something.

Or just go and get a pink feather boa.

Seriously, though, I've been reading

that little stuff like that (if you have the outgoing personality to pull it off) can be a good conversation starter

with women. At the very least, it gets them curious.

Good luck with the Pherlune and porn stars. You better

fill us in on how it went afterwards.

[WiZ83]

Don't worry ... I'll keep

you guys updated ... Pink ... hmm ... I'll see what I can get at the local mall ... Feather Boa ... Interesting ...

:P

[terry0400-40]

Weird

is precisely the thing I want women to be around me. MEOW!

It seems like NPA + SOE makes women go INSANE

from what I've read on here. Can't wait to order it and try!

I have

had some insane attention from women and also young women when wearing NPA and SOE ,

Funny thing though you have to get the

NPA right though or you will get nothing.



Sometimes i have gone out with my fresh mix on and have been completly ignored

by women as if i did not exist at all, and



Then after about an hour the hits just start to pour in, it seems to me that my

few good dabs of NPA must be an OD in the early stages

On the other hand i always tend to put more

on because it is just like a little runny alcohol and i think how can a few insignificant dabs of this do

anything

Well i have been beceived because i realize that the very smallest dabs of NPA can have a big

effect.

I

would say if you can not learn to be light handed with the NPA then go for a small spray of TE to start things

off.

I think

if it wasent for the grace of the SOE then so many of us could OD easily on NPA or other heavy weight aNONE

products.

Remember a drop of PI or A7 is around 20 mcg aNONE and drop NPA is close to

it,

Asian

women can easily notice 1/4 drop or around 5mcg aNONE,

So when trawling for Asian Babes even 3mcg is

enough to register on their sensitivities,



And "when used alone" it is very easy to get the attention of most suceptable

women with between 5 mcg or 12 mcg Anone.



I have noticed some young men not getting the results they have envisioned with

pheromones, and all i can say is go easy on the Androstenone as you already make heaps of the stuff

natutally.

I

think all young men beginning on the road with pheromones should have some SOE or some WAGG or a combination of both

to use as softening and attraction agents to start off their collection, and to

have some on standby when using concentrated


Androstenone products.

[WiZ83]

You guys know what? I placed

all those orders at 4am 20th June (Wednesday), then the order was shipped out from Colorado on 20th June 11am, and

it arrived here today Friday 22nd June at 1:20pm. I was using regular First Class Mail, I received the package right

after I went to the mall during my lunch break to get a Pink Shirt, and went home and put the shirt on, and saw the

post man there. All I can say is, I'm very impressed with Love-Scent's service, and best still, USPS's First

Class mail took 2 days to get it shipped from Colorado, which is about 22 hours drive away from here.

I will have

the opportunity to test them to the full extent tonight. I will keep everybody posted.

[BGuy20]

Good luck tonight. NPA + SOE +

Porn stars = uh oh. You better come back with some good stories!

Also, don't assume that they'll bang you

right away just because they're porn stars. Most of the behind-the-scenes stuff they do with porn stars show they

treat it just like a normal job.

Still, it should be fun. Knock em dead!

[WiZ83]

Okay, these is what I got, I

need someone to recommend me something to put on, something to start with before I head over visit those porn

stars.

- 15ml Chikara
- NPA Pheromone Additive
- Musk Oil with Pheromones (Came with Noob Combo, don't know

what's this)
- Atomizer (Empty Bottle, don't know what to mix in it)
- 10ml Scent of Eros (Roller)
- 24ml The

Edge (I don't know if this is Scented/Unscented/Concentrate? I'm confused with the instructions that came with

it)

A Bunch (as in a lot, like 21 packs of Gel Packs (below):
- 3x Alter Ego The Packet
- 6x The Edge for Him

Pheromone Attractant
- 3x Chikara Gel Pack
- 5x Scent of Eros Gel Pack
- 4x Perception Human Pheromone Attractant

1ml

Please tell me what to start with.

And on top of those mentioend above, are the colognes I mentioned in

the original post.

Please tell me what to start with, I've got another 6-7 hours before I head over to the club.

Before 10pm, 50% cover charge.

Oh by the way, I opened up every bottles to sniff it a bit, I don't know

if this is the effect of it, my mouth seemed to be a bit runny, as in, it's wet, full of saliva, for the last 15

minutes, is this common?

[WiZ83]

Just got home from

work.

Still no recommendation?

What I'm planning to do, if I don't get any response, is to do these ...

-

apply 2 dabs of NPA ...
- then roll 12 inches of SoE ...
- then cover with 2 sprays of Chikara ...
- thinking if

I should cover with my other colognes? CK Escape ? Eternity ? Cool Water ? I don't know how they'd blend ...
-

still deciding if I should spay to my upperchest/neck, or wrist ... sigh ...

Please, someone tell me if what I

planned above is too much ... trying to achieve something tonight ... whether porn stars or not ... I hope I'm not

firing blank ... lol I'm probably a bit too ambitious, but ... oh well ...

[Mtnjim]

I would just stick with the NPA and

SoE, a proven mix.

[WiZ83]

How much NPA, and how much

SoE? Don't I need any cover scent?

[BGuy20]

Just a DROP of NPA. Apparently

any more can be an overdose.

If you have the roller, 12" to 24" of SOE seems like the preferred

amount.

Haven't tried either, but other posts seem to suggest this might be a good mix.

You MIIIGHT

be able to get away with 2 drops of NPA since these girls probably are used to dealing with alpha guys (they do so

at work). I'd keep a pocket wet wipe handy so you can clean up if you notice any OD reactions to the NPA.

[BGuy20]

I'd say cover it up with Le

Male, unless the SoE is scented. If SoE is scented, I'll try to look up what would go with it.

[WiZ83]

Hi ... as promised ..

here's my story ...

What I did was:

- 1 full drop of NPA
- approimately 12 inch of SoE
- 2 sprays of

Chikara
- 2 sprays of CK Escape

They were all applied to my wrist, rubbed both wrist together, and then rubbed

it over my neck. I applied extra 1 spray of CK Escape to my neck ...

Experience ... I went clubbing by myself ...

there were 3 porn stars there total ... and a porn industry producer throwing the party ... and having a contest,

where 1 person will get a chance to be the next porn star, and win a boob job ...

Anyway, I went there, got a

couple drink, dance a bit, I wasn't great at dancing, then sat by the bar for a while, and tried to get some eye

contacts ... I didn't notice much, as I didn't have ladies approaching me ... so after an hour or so, I decided to

approach 4 ladies sitting by a table, talked a bit and stuffs ... exchanged telephone numbers, I gave them my

name/business card, they gave me theirs, on my cell phone ... I don't know if I got the real deal/number, as I

haven't gave them a call yet ... anyway, these 3 out of 4 of those ladies were pretty hot, and I won't mind

hooking up with them soon. We talked a lot, and dance for a while, I kinda sucked at dancing, so I don't know if I

actually embarassed myself there ... but they seemed to giggle or laugh a lot at me ... maybe I'm their laughing

stock ? I don't know if there's any effects from the mones I applied ... It was pretty crazy, as I really made

myself do stuffs I don't usually do ... got a couple drink, and toss myself towards these 4 pretty ladies table and

invited myself to sit down and chat with them ...

Anyway, I'm going to another bar tonight ... I don't know if

I should use the same combination ...


P.S. - I got home empty handed, yet again ... But I got 4 new numbers

on my cell ... which I don't know if they're actual working numbers ... won't know till maybe a couple days

later, I'll try calling ... Didn't score, so it's kinda disappointing night? Or maybe went pretty well, don't

know yet, we'll see ...

[terry0400-40]

Hi ... as promised .. here's my story ...

What I did was:

- 1 full drop of NPA
- approimately 12 inch of SoE
- 2 sprays of Chikara
- 2 sprays of CK Escape

They were all applied to my wrist, rubbed both wrist together, and then rubbed it over my neck. I applied

extra 1 spray of CK Escape to my neck ...

Experience ... I went clubbing by myself ... there were 3

porn stars there total ... and a porn industry producer throwing the party ... and having a contest, where 1 person

will get a chance to be the next porn star, and win a boob job ...

Anyway, I went there, got a

couple drink, dance a bit, I wasn't great at dancing, then sat by the bar for a while, and tried to get some eye

contacts ... I didn't notice much, as I didn't have ladies approaching me ... so after an hour or so, I decided to

approach 4 ladies sitting by a table, talked a bit and stuffs ... exchanged telephone numbers, I gave them my

name/business card, they gave me theirs, on my cell phone ... I don't know if I got the real deal/number, as I

haven't gave them a call yet ... anyway, these 3 out of 4 of those ladies were pretty hot, and I won't mind

hooking up with them soon. We talked a lot, and dance for a while, I kinda sucked at dancing, so I don't know if I

actually embarassed myself there ... but they seemed to giggle or laugh a lot at me ... maybe I'm their laughing

stock ? I don't know if there's any effects from the mones I applied ... It was pretty crazy, as I really made

myself do stuffs I don't usually do ... got a couple drink, and toss myself towards these 4 pretty ladies table and

invited myself to sit down and chat with them ...

Anyway, I'm going to another bar tonight ... I

don't know if I should use the same combination ...

P.S. - I got home empty handed, yet again

... But I got 4 new numbers on my cell ... which I don't know if they're actual working numbers ... won't know

till maybe a couple days later, I'll try calling ... Didn't score, so it's kinda disappointing night? Or maybe

went pretty well, don't know yet, we'll see ...

Not bad, Rome was

not built in a day.
And at least you have got out and shown some

initiative, so good work, Action leads to results, as long as it is good fun and enjoyable keep at it and the sweet

fruits will be in your hand.

When i go out to Bad girls or to a club i get really good results with NPA x 1 drop + about 48"

SOE ( this is about the same as 1+1/2 gel/ pkt SOE ) and also 2 sprays of C7.
When i have had on 48" SOE with my A7 or NPA i have had comments from chicks saying " you smell

sexy"

It may

seem to some forum members that i am being extravagent with my SOE use, But between 32" and 48" works wonders for me

depending upon the venue and circumstances.

[WorkingMann]

Being their laughing stock

aren't always bad.. If you aren't embarrassed or let it get to you women can take it as a good thing and you just

are a funny dude that aren't gonna be embarrassed by little things and that shows you're a mann that stands by

what he does and says..

[BGuy20]

I'd say that them laughing at

you is either really good or really bad. Phero wearers on here seem to get a giggle response when women are nervous,

but it could also be that they were indeed laughing AT you. I think it depends on how confident you observed them to

be. If they were confident, they probably were laughing AT you, but if not, they were probably nervous. Also, I

think if they were giggling AT you, it's a sign of interest. If they were giggling while facing their friends,

perhaps not.

It's good that you showed initiative. It's not too often that the girl comes up to you, even

with pheros. It takes pheromones AND some good game to get women.

I'd suggest buying/reading one of the many

pickup books (Mystery Method, et al) so you have the right mindset when approaching women. These systems teach the

confident guy approach that you'll need to appear congruent while wearing -None. If you wear -None and still act

like a wimpy guy, it's a turn-off because what she's seeing doesn't match up with what she's smelling.

4

numbers is good, but keep at it. Screen the ladies, if you aren't interested in them (or they aren't interested in

you) you can still be friends with them and use them to help out your other conquests.

Keep at it!

[WiZ83]

I'll see what happens tonight

when I put on more SoE tonight. Maybe try 24 inches tonight. :P

Will keep you guys updated.