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    Sounds great Doc.. Will be

    looking forward to this..

    And Bruce if you will make a preorder list you can put me down for 2 bottles
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    - Bruce,

    do you think you could start a "pre-sale" list for those of us who want to buy some? I for one would be willing to

    put 50% down.

    - DST, what about Oscar's idea of a special edition concentrate? with a cork

    stopper?
    In general, buying a concentrate for four times the price or whatever is not worth it. I determine

    the concentration that I think wears and smells best. And it takes some skill, extra ingredients, and time to dilute

    it properly, if you were planning on doing it yourself.

    If I was convinced the concentrate would age especially

    well, as Oscar suggested, I might consider something. But at this point, it would be good just to see more people

    get a bottle, since there isn't much left.

    The other thing is really that there isn't enough left to make

    many bottles of the concentrate.

    And lastly, I'm sure Bruce would be THRILLED at having to pay four times as

    much for it, and having to pass that multiple on to you all, with the hope that a lot of you would jump at

    the opportunity to drop a few bills for it.

    Maybe this is a mistake, but that is the current thinking.



    But I'll play around with some of the concentrate just to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
    In

    general, buying a concentrate for four times the price or whatever is not worth it. I determine the concentration

    that I think wears and smells best. And it takes some skill, extra ingredients, and time to dilute it properly, if

    you were planning on doing it yourself.

    If I was convinced the concentrate would age especially well, as Oscar

    suggested, I might consider something. But at this point, it would be good just to see more people get a bottle,

    since there isn't much left.

    The other thing is really that there isn't enough left to make many bottles of

    the concentrate.

    And lastly, I'm sure Bruce would be THRILLED at having to pay four times as much for it, and

    having to pass that multiple on to you all, with the hope that a lot of you would jump at the opportunity to

    drop a few bills for it.

    Maybe this is a mistake, but that is the current thinking.

    But I'll play

    around with some of the concentrate just to see.
    If you don't think the concentrate would age any better

    than the dilution then good.

    Also, appreciate the altruism of wanting more people the opportunity to have some.



    However, if thinking changes, sign me up for a bottle of concentrate. If you came up with a few

    bottles, I'm sure there's a market for such limited quantities, at whatever price. As you said, this is a

    snapshot in time that cannot be duplicated, and given the cult following you have with this scent I think there

    would be buyers who would treasure it.

    Again, Bruce could pre-sale whatever you might be able to offer, and

    I'm sure that this community would not leave him hanging. Just a thought.

    Suerte,
    Greg

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    Thanks Doc, now that I think about

    it it was probably my own fault for not packing it more carefuly. In honor of you continuing your labor of love,

    when I'm not traveling with the bottle I'll cork it - using the cork I still have from the last one.

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    Just a little update:



    Production of Pheros was delayed for several days due to the heat wave in Oregon. I had to keep it in a

    cool environment until the heat wave passed.

    I resumed work on bottling today.

    The stuff smells damn good

    still, like no other cologne you'll find on the market.

    It has mellowed with age. Age has made the oud and

    musk stand out, which might please Belgareth. There will be more of a distinct woody note, which was the idea all

    along, since Pheros was born from drops of juniper, years ago.

    Naughty, spicy, musky wood. That's what

    you can expect.

    The musk is complex and deep, like no other cologne.

    So I think the years were kind to

    Pheros, and no longer wonder how it held up.

    I'm smelling the back of my hand as I type this and clearly

    smell the oud after four hours. The concentrate is too strong to wear by itself, so I'm glad I'm diluting it.



    The perfuming alcohol has matured in the fixatives, but is now seasoning with a little perfume mixed in. That

    process will ensure that adding alcohol will take nothing away from the smell. Not too many perfumers use this old

    school method. So the alcohol already smells great by itself, before I've even added the bulk perfume. I will

    season the water in the same way. Every step in the bottling process requires meticulous care, if you are going to

    do it the traditional, natural way.

    Had fun flirting with a few women at a bar tonight, covered in

    Pheros, after I was done with bottling for the day. I can't stop smelling myself. I went out smelling like

    sex. There's almost a marijuana-like note to this stuff too. Never noticed that before.

    There is no substitute

    for natural musk, folks.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Almost cant wait to have my

    nose in this and purchase a stash of this.. Man O man! Will be looking forward to having it in my stock and trying

    it on for the first time
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Doc, you have such love for your

    product and for the process. You sound like you are bottling a fine wine, but far more precious. We wait with

    anticipiation for more of your special brew. I truly hope this isn't your last effort even if it is the last of

    Pheros.

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    Has anyone else besides me

    noticed the risk of talking up the last batch of Pheros too much? I can imagine some people hoarding it and

    re-selling it for 10X the cost in a couple of years.

    Perhaps Bruce will limit the number of bottles per customer

    to keep a level playing field?

    Just a thought...

    -CAt

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtriathlete View Post
    Has

    anyone else besides me noticed the risk of talking up the last batch of Pheros too much? I can imagine some people

    hoarding it and re-selling it for 10X the cost in a couple of years.

    Perhaps Bruce will limit the number of

    bottles per customer to keep a level playing field?

    Just a thought...

    -CAt
    SShhhhh!!

    Just

    kidding. I think with the pretty limited initial market this won't be much of an issue, though we really don't

    know how much product will be available, or who is out there with the funds. I intend to buy more than one bottle

    when its available, and it will be kept for my own posterity. I think others here on this board have the same

    covetous thoughts.

    I would, though, be concerned if Bruce got an order for half or more of what was offered.

    Its up to him, but Bruce strikes me as a very fair and decent guy, and well able to handle whatever may transpire

    along these lines.

    Its interesting, big companies drool over this kind of advance demand for a product. In this

    case Pheros is a known product in its market, and the huge anticipation of its (re)release is a testimony of its

    great quality.

    Its abundantly obvious that you've done well Dr, and by all means, take the time to get it

    right.

    Wondering if any thought has been given to pre-sales, esp to board members?? That might be a

    pain in the neck for Bruce though, but we will have the most advanced notice. Right? Right??

    Pant! Greg

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    -- Board members will have all

    the advance notice.

    -- I'll have to get Bruce's permission to tell you how many bottles there are. I haven't

    confirmed it with him yet, (though it will be within my intial estimated range) and his inventory is essentially his

    business.

    -- Thanks for the nice words, idesign, and everyone else. I believe it's a very good product for

    those who like natural, musky, woody, spicy, earthy, magical, richer, more complex, erotic scents.

    On the other

    hand, those who like light, summery, cistrusy colognes, like Gegogi, might not care for it, unless they can go

    either way. (I have another, simpler fine cologne Gegogi might like quite a bit, however, if I can find the

    ingredients. It would have strong citrus note, but would not smell cheap by any means.) Believe me, there are a

    significant number of people that have sent it back right after purchase (Thankfully, Bruce is good about that sort

    of thing.) Keeps me humble.

    But it has almost a cult following of people who feel very strongly about it, and

    are very loyal. That's really all you can ask for.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Your timing is terrible, Doc.

    The last time you released Pheros was right before I left for vacation too. We are leaving for ten days next week.

    (Ok, so maybe it's my timing.) I'll bet you are plannning on releasing it during that time? I'll ask Bruce to set

    aside a bottle or two. Wouldn't want to miss out on this.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
    -- Board

    members will have all the advance notice.

    -- I'll have to get Bruce's permission to tell you how many

    bottles there are. I haven't confirmed it with him yet, (though it will be within my intial estimated range) and

    his inventory is essentially his business.

    -- Thanks for the nice words, idesign, and everyone else. I

    believe it's a very good product for those who like natural, musky, woody, spicy, earthy, magical, richer, more

    complex, erotic scents.

    On the other hand, those who like light, summery, cistrusy colognes, like Gegogi,

    might not care for it, unless they can go either way. (I have another, simpler fine cologne Gegogi might like quite

    a bit, however, if I can find the ingredients. It would have strong citrus note, but would not smell cheap by any

    means.) Believe me, there are a significant number of people that have sent it back right after purchase

    (Thankfully, Bruce is good about that sort of thing.) Keeps me humble.

    But it has almost a cult

    following
    of people who feel very strongly about it, and are very loyal. That's really all you can ask

    for.
    In a few decades it will be its own religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Your

    timing is terrible, Doc. The last time you released Pheros was right before I left for vacation too. We are leaving

    for ten days next week. (Ok, so maybe it's my timing.) I'll bet you are plannning on releasing it during that

    time? I'll ask Bruce to set aside a bottle or two. Wouldn't want to miss out on this.
    Bel, give me your

    credit card info and I'll hoard it for you. Did I say hoard? I meant store... yes... I'll store it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
    --

    Board members will have all the advance notice.

    -- I'll have to get Bruce's permission to tell you how many

    bottles there are. I haven't confirmed it with him yet, (though it will be within my intial estimated range) and

    his inventory is essentially his business.

    -- Thanks for the nice words, idesign, and everyone else. I believe

    it's a very good product for those who like natural, musky, woody, spicy, earthy, magical, richer, more complex,

    erotic scents.

    On the other hand, those who like light, summery, cistrusy colognes, like Gegogi, might not care

    for it, unless they can go either way. (I have another, simpler fine cologne Gegogi might like quite a bit, however,

    if I can find the ingredients. It would have strong citrus note, but would not smell cheap by any means.) Believe

    me, there are a significant number of people that have sent it back right after purchase (Thankfully, Bruce is good

    about that sort of thing.) Keeps me humble.

    But it has almost a cult following of people who feel very strongly

    about it, and are very loyal. That's really all you can ask for.
    -- Thank you!
    -- OK
    -- Very welcome

    Doc
    -- Citrusy is nice for day wear, but I can't stand most of the newer commercial frags. Synthetic and no

    depth.
    -- Question Doc: other than Pheros, do you produce any other frags that are available for purchase?

    TIA,

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Bel, give

    me your credit card info and I'll hoard it for you. Did I say hoard? I meant store... yes... I'll store it for

    you.
    Uh, huh. I appreciate the offer but I think I left it on the turnip truck.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis View Post
    --

    Board members will have all the advance notice.

    -- I'll have to get Bruce's permission to tell you how many

    bottles there are. I haven't confirmed it with him yet, (though it will be within my intial estimated range)

    and his inventory is essentially his business.
    I've read through this thread again but can't seem to

    find what your estimated range is?
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann View Post
    I've read through this thread again but can't seem to find what your estimated range

    is?
    That comment was for Bruce's information. Sorry for the confusion.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Question

    Doc: other than Pheros, do you produce any other frags that are available for purchase?
    Not at present.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    ahh oka then.. But hope

    there will be enough for more than only 1 bottle per customer as I would like 2.. But again.. I wouldn't pay

    overprice from another customer who have bought one and used the 1 bottle per customer thing to make a profit of

    it..
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Great to see your still doing

    this Doc!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling View Post
    Great

    to see your still doing this Doc!
    Makes you feeli like you never left, huh?
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    thanks for the info,

    Doc!

    I'd like to get a bottle too but I want to know what the price will be before I completely commit myself..

    if it's not too expensive even two bottles perhaps..
    Please message me when it's available.

    Superman

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    * Sorry for the delay folks.

    After testing, I decided the perfume needed to mature in the alcohol longer, essentially, to "liberate" the top note

    as much as possible. This step wasn't necessary or helpful the last time it was bottled, when I wanted to mellow

    out the top note and help longevity. But smells evolve with age, the top note has mellowed quite a bit on its own,

    the longevity now seems fine; and now this extra step is advisable.

    This is of course more detail than any of

    you needed, but I wanted to let you all know there was a thought process behind the delay.

    I'll keep you all

    posted.

    * Bruce is the one to contact about retail price. Wasn't it around $50? I know it's pathetic, but I

    forget.
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    Hey while we're asking

    where is and stuff,where is Terry?Did he fall of the face of the earth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iaskalotof?'s View Post
    Hey

    while we're asking where is and stuff,where is Terry?Did he fall of the face of the earth?
    Was wondering

    about him too the last few days. Terry, what's up mate? Don't make us start a new thread asking about your

    whereabouts, you'll be in trouble then.

    Check in buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Was

    wondering about him too the last few days. Terry, what's up mate? Don't make us start a new thread asking about

    your whereabouts, you'll be in trouble then.

    Check in buddy.
    I am just looking in from now on

    guys.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Thanks for the update, Doc...

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    Great,as soon as I start

    a phero pro leaves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iaskalotof?'s View Post
    Great,as soon as I start a phero pro leaves
    Just don't worry, there are

    others...

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    Bump

    Haven't seen you for a

    while Doc, hope you're well.

    Still standing over the cauldron stirring in the proper incantations? Don't

    forget the bat's fur absolute, there's a sale on at Oshadi.

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