I think association or labeling of the sexual stimulus is critical. I began wearing pheros around a female friend of mine a couple months back (we\'ll call her \"Anne\"). We\'ve known each other for a couple of years, and so unfortunately, I don\'t think she noticed any real difference in me. She had already told a mutual friend that I\'m a guy \"she probably wouldn\'t sleep with.\" (Fuck her, on a sidenote, but anyway). I began hanging out with her with two new friends who she didn\'t know before I started wearing pheros. Now she is totally into these guys (not in a dating way, but in a pure fucking way, as she told me). Fuckers. I\'m fairly sure she is associating the sexual stimulus with those new guys, meanwhile I\'m paying for the p-mones. Time to find some new friends or something. Or maybe stop wearing the pheros (?)
I also worry because she tends to hang out with me most nights, then goes out on a \"date\" later in the evening on weekends. I\'m afraid I\'m fucking warming up her engine so some other schmuck can jump her. (On a side note, the last guy she almost slept with last week couldn\'t get it up 3 times in a night, and they never had sex. I told her it was a sign from God. The guy is a shmuck 19 year old drug dealer, I don\'t know why she\'s slumming with him, but I digress...)
How quick are the results and how long do they last (I guess it varies with the different pheromones)? I guess this is something I should have figured out a while back. I wore pheros on a business trip last winter with four women and one guy. Three women reported explicit sex dreams, and one had a dream that the other (married) guy told her \"He loved her and that they would get married\" (perhaps a difference in arousal, three wanted sex, one wanted love). Anyway, it freaked all of them out, as well as the guy who roomed with me.
\"Anne\" never had sexual dreams in her life until I started wearing pheros around her. Now it is a regular occurence. I don\'t know if I\'m showing up in these dreams or not, she wouldn\'t tell me in all likelihood. But she has told me she\'s had sexual dreams about a couple of old acquaintances who she would never consider sexual partners. Part of the problem may be that she labels virtually everyone upon getting to know them, and if you aren\'t in the \"do\" pile, you are screwed.
Do we have any idea what the subliminal effects of these pheromones are? Has anyone else reported an increase in sex dreams or quasi-subliminal effects on women? On themselves? I thought maybe with all the pheromones I wear that I\'d have more sex dreams, but I think I may be having less.
Back to \"Anne.\" We\'ve been real close, virtually best friends for 3/4 years and yet I can\'t seem to stir any interest from her. We flirt from time to time, and we do a lot of basic touching, but she is a touchy person, so I never interpretted it as anything more. We get along well enough that I actually want to date her and form a serious relationship, not just sex. Although sex would work too. (Plus we have perhaps the most important issue, my lack of balls to make a first move, because I\'m afraid of losing her as a friend. In February I made a move on one of my friends and got the total shaft, and we haven\'t spoken since, so I\'m afraid I\'ll lose her).
Anyone have any suggestions?
I\'ve been staying away from Edge and NPA currently because she is having her period, sticking with SOE and A1. But maybe I have to crank up the Edge or something sometime soon. I tend to not put on more than 4 sprays of Edge, in fear that I\'ll totally turn off a girl. Also I\'m a big dude, 6\'5\" 265 lbs, and I\'ve been told I intimidate some girls, so I don\'t want to be too overbearing.
Of course, this could all be bullshit, because when she was younger and played softball she broke her nose, so she may not even have a fucking VNO, and in that sense, I\'m putting a lot of money down the drain on her (she\'s not my only target, I have about 4 I\'m pursuing right now). Or maybe her VNO is somewhat damaged and she\'d only respond to a major overdose? Maybe I should try to OD with her (?)
we\'ll see what happens,
JDM
Thinking outloud here, as usual.
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