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    Has anyone

    else had THIS problem.

    My A7 unscented, is, unscented. I have an extrememly sensitive nose, and can smell

    nothing. So much so that I have used 20 drops at a time and have not had anyone be able to smell anything AT

    ALL!

    Over 50 of my customers and friends and not one person could even say
    "YOU STINK!"

    Believe me, my

    friends will and do say everything with blunt honesty. They would tell me if I smelled like a gym sock.

    Another

    thing too is, I tried the same bottle on several different friends, all starting with one drop and going up to ten

    and had the same thing with them. This rules out my personal body chemistry in my opinion.

    I have tried it

    several different ways as well, freshly scrubbed skin, with and without cologne (chanel egoiste), and with or

    without scented soap.

    I have also seen NO signs of OD. No headache, foul odor, etc. All the precautions with

    the A7 state to be so very careful due to the pungent aroma. I got nothing at all out of it.

    Any suggestions?
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    If you bought it from LS you

    should return it. A7 stinks and only a couple of drops is an OD. Something should have happened with 20 drops, like

    maybe a SWAT team showing up or something. There is a real problem if yours has no smell.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Yeah, that is exactly

    what I expected as well....swat teams or a swarm of flies at that point!

    I mean, I really don't care if it

    stinks upon OD, because at least then I know that I got what I paid for!

    Still, nothing yet. I may have to call

    them soon and return or exchange it.

    I hate having to jump through hoops though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Science Minded View Post
    Has anyone else had THIS problem.

    My A7 unscented, is, unscented. I have an

    extrememly sensitive nose, and can smell nothing. So much so that I have used 20 drops at a time and have not had

    anyone be able to smell anything AT ALL!

    Over 50 of my customers and friends and not one person could even say


    "YOU STINK!"

    Believe me, my friends will and do say everything with blunt honesty. They would tell me if I

    smelled like a gym sock.
    Ha ha shit man 20 drops , wow thats around 480

    mcg, Oh man, i have just applied one small dab of my unscented Alpha 7 just below the thumb knuckle and i can smell

    the Beautifull Androstenone wafting off even now as i am typing this post.


    All i know is that this is the real shit, not

    only does it have great and recognisable odour but it really is hit material, I really love this stuff.



    OK having

    said that, i did once receive some Primal Instinct where i was perceiving the same effects as you are with your

    product, yes NIX NAUGHT and NOTHING, not even a small whiff.


    I suggest that you send an email to the

    customer service where you purchased the product and see if you can have it looked at.



    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Science

    Minded;199631
    Yeah, that is exactly what I expected as well....swat teams or a swarm of flies at that point!

    I

    mean, I really don't care if it stinks upon OD, because at least then I know that I got what I paid for!

    Still,

    nothing yet. I may have to call them soon and return or exchange it.

    I hate having to jump through hoops

    though.
    Bruce won't make you jump through hoops. He is great about it. Just send it back with an

    explanation and he refunds your money. Email him if you have any questions: bruce(at)love-scent.com
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Cool. I will give it a

    try! Thanks guys! I will keep you posted on what happens when I exchange it!

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    Total shock here. Please send the

    bottle back asap. I have to see this with my own eyes/nose. I had a number of products tested recently and that

    manufacturer is one of the few that tested out with flying colors.
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    I'm having a couple of bottles of

    A7 from stock overnighted to my home tomorrow. I'll keep y'all posted.

    B
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    Thanks for the speedy

    response via email Bruce! I threw out the box that fed ex delivered, so if you could please email me the address to

    return it to I would greatly appreciate it! My confirmation number and order details are in the response email I

    sent to you!

    Thank you!

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    Isn't it reassuring to have great customer service relations and responses like this.



    As can

    always place orders with confidence.




    Always 5 star service here at Love-Scent.
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    That is no joke!

    Especially when it comes to something a lot of people would consider "snake oil" or such.

    A real pleasure to deal

    with. I can see now why the company has been in business for so long, as well as why it has such a good rating with

    the BBB....


    THEY EARNED IT!

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    Yep! I'm Really liking

    the customer service! Good Job Peeps!

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    Thanks guys. We have been hit with

    bogus and bootlegged products before, so I can't take any chances.

    I just received the two bottles of A7 I had

    Tammy overnight me from the warehouse; immediately cracked open one of them and took a sniff. Wham! Sure smells

    like bull moose on steroids to me. I did a blindfold test on our bookkeeper, and she had no problem identifying the

    A7 vs. a bottle of plain oil. Then I had my wife take a whiff. "Whew! pheromones." So, the mystery continues.

    KZI sent samples off for testing today and will have results in a week. That is sort of a moot point, as we don't

    know what he is sending in. I will send over one of the two bottles I have here and we prove exactly how much

    pheromones are in there, but I can tell you honestly already there is clearly a lot of aNONE in there. So, maybe

    one dud bottle slipped through? That's all I can figure out. We will get back the remains of Science Minded's

    bottle. That might tell us something.

    News as it develops.

    Peace,
    B
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    Well my scented A7 seems Ok, but

    I have recently ordered another one, how can I find out if it is Ok or not

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    Thanks Guy. Any other A7 owners out

    there? Take a whiff and let us know. Every bottle I have here in my office smells to high heaven.

    TIA,.
    B
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    What about us people that

    can't smell it...? NPA only smells like alcohol and other products I can't really smell so much..
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann View Post
    What

    about us people that can't smell it...? NPA only smells like alcohol and other products I can't really smell so

    much..
    Same for me here - NPA only smells like alcohol, A7 smells not at all for me...

    But

    I've given up on -none-heavy products all together - I keep TE and AE for a little -none boost, but only at tiny

    amounts.

    @Terry: I've allowed myself to add you to my MSN buddys... So if you see a Frank there, that's

    probably me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Thanks Guy.

    Any other A7 owners out there? Take a whiff and let us know. Every bottle I have here in my office smells to high

    heaven.

    TIA,.
    B
    I'm one of those that NPA smells like alcohol, so here goes ... ran to my room,

    found my A7, opened it, sniffed it ... hmmmmm does it smelling a little musky says there's none in it?



    Oh well.
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    My new unscented A7 bottle has

    just arrived today & I am just like the others who can not smell none, but I have tested by wearing a half drop on

    my neck covered by scented SOE & I noticed the reactions on the girls I work with. It is working really well, just

    like the reaction I receive when I use the scented A7 so I can tell. No problem with my new bottle.

    Thank you

    Bruce & Tammy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy101 View Post
    but I have

    tested by wearing a half drop on my neck covered by scented SOE & I noticed the reactions on the girls I work

    with.
    How do you get half drop may I know?

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    I have noticed that if i keep my finger over the dropper and flick the bottle over fast i can

    usually get a good dab of the A7 out, it seems to work every time.


    Sometimes if i have a concentrated drop of

    something on my palm and if i decide to use only 1/2 then i scrape the remainder into my "Pheroslops bottle"



    This bottle

    contains a collection of the dregs from my spray test mixes and surplus pheros, It now contains about 50ml of

    pheroslops and it smells good.


    The next time i get together with my 5 sons i will get them to slop some of it under their

    gills before we hit the Badgirls clubs.
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    Terry,
    with 8 kids the last thing

    you need is pheromones.... more like a long holiday. I've got two teenage boys and thats enough for me!

    But err

    yep, can't smell a thing from npa/PI/A7 apart from the alcohol. Thats why I'm very carefull on how much I wear.
    early 40's white male or or

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    I'll trade you my two teenage

    girls for your boys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebob View Post
    Same for me here - NPA only smells like alcohol, A7 smells not at all for me...

    But

    I've given up on -none-heavy products all together - I keep TE and AE for a little -none boost, but only at tiny

    amounts.

    @Terry: I've allowed myself to add you to my MSN buddys... So if you see a Frank there, that's

    probably me.
    Thank you Bubblebob, your welcome, as is always good to hear

    from you anytime.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaf View Post
    Terry,


    with 8 kids the last thing you need is pheromones.... more like a long holiday. I've got two teenage boys and

    thats enough for me!

    But err yep, can't smell a thing from npa/PI/A7 apart from the alcohol. Thats why I'm

    very carefull on how much I wear.
    I also have 3 girls the youngest is nearly

    out of her teens, she is working as well.

    So i do not have any

    children living at home. I get an occasional visit once in a while when they are in my part of the country, or a

    few sms messages now and then.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    To Oceanborn, I put my finger

    under the dropper & before it is a full drop I touch it & it seems to be a half drop (it is not that accurate but it

    is Ok).

    I've had another experience this morning as well, I put a drop on my neck & went to the train station

    (open air), & there was a young lady waiting for the train & I stood behind her (about 03 meters away) & in 02

    minutes she looked back at me & looked again & again. On the train two ladies were sitting on my right hand side

    kept looking at me but I then toned it down but some of the SOE, & they started to relax & chat.

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    By the way, today only I started

    to smell the none when I was standing in the train station but it needs a lot of concentration. I smelled it with

    every breeze as the weather was hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Thanks Guy.

    Any other A7 owners out there? Take a whiff and let us know. Every bottle I have here in my office smells to high

    heaven.

    TIA,.
    B
    Yup, I've traded my dud PI for A7 and it's really potent stuff. It seems to

    last for more than 12 hours even after shower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy101 View Post
    To

    Oceanborn, I put my finger under the dropper & before it is a full drop I touch it & it seems to be a half drop (it

    is not that accurate but it is Ok).
    Haha... sounds like you need the reflex of a ninja to pull that

    off!

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    I have noticed that if i keep my finger over the dropper and flick the bottle over fast i can

    usually get a good dab of the A7 out, it seems to work every time.
    This is what I do with

    concentrates......It keeps you from OD'ing. I'd rather underdose than OD.

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