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    Talking Windows Vista Vs Linux Ubuntu Beryl

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    Hi

    all ...

    Long time without any post .. but I always miss you fellows..
    Everybody knows that I'm really

    love IT ...working as professinal .. and belive in open source way to do things .. even when all my friends at job

    said things like ..It's a dream, It's doesnt work etc...give up !
    For those peoples I got my guitar and start

    sing "Tom Petty song Won't Back Down ..."

    And I won't back down.Hey, baby. There ain't no easy way

    out.
    Hey, I will stand my ground.
    And I won't back down.Well I know what's right
    I got just one

    life
    In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
    But I'll stand my ground
    And I won't back down.Hey,

    baby. There ain't no easy way out.
    Hey, I will stand my ground.


    fortunaly a lot of people dont

    back down
    and things like that come up ..... for free !!!!

    check this

    out..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uE...elated&search=

    All the best you guys

    !!!

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    I've been playing with the

    free Solaris recently. Very nice to use. Vista really and truly sucks, big time. I've been telling my clients to

    avoid it as long as possible.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Vista

    really and truly sucks, big time. I've been telling my clients to avoid it as long as possible.
    Agreed!!

    I've got a test box with Vista on it, and I can't install printers. Keeps saying "Access Denied" no matter what

    Administrator account (Local or Domain) I use. At the Microsoft Vista forums, there are a lot of posts with printer

    problems.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim View Post
    Agreed!!

    I've got a test box with Vista on it, and I can't install printers. Keeps saying "Access Denied" no matter what

    Administrator account (Local or Domain) I use. At the Microsoft Vista forums, there are a lot of posts with printer

    problems.
    There are a lot of complaints about video cards too. The back up module stinks and a few

    other things are useless.

    Does this make you think of Windows ME revisited and on steroids? What a frippin'

    mess!

    I have a test box running Vista too because you can't buy a new computer without it now. It's actually

    been good in a way because my white box sales have gone up. I'm offering them with XP.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    There are a

    lot of complaints about video cards too. The back up module stinks and a few other things are useless.


    Ya, I've heard that.

    Does this make you think of Windows ME revisited and on steroids? What a frippin'

    mess!
    No doubt. Seems that every 2nd "new" OS is total crap. I don't count 95 to 98 as "new" because 98

    was just 95 "prettied up".

    I have a test box running Vista too because you can't buy a new computer

    without it now. It's actually been good in a way because my white box sales have gone up. I'm offering them with

    XP.
    Ya, I plan on "upgrading" any new systems we get to XP for quite a while.
    Good thing I've got some

    "back up" OS's to work with. Right now, I've got a MAC (OS-X), the %&*#% Vista box, a Linux server, and a Linux

    laptop either on or next to my desk.
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    Fortunately, I don't have to

    deal with Mac too. They make it too expensive for a small shop like me so I don't bother with the tiny market share

    they can offer. Not too many businesses use them anyway and I'm not interested in the personal or academic

    market.

    Oh well, if nothing else, Microsoft keeps me in business with their screwed up OS's.

    Have you

    looked at the SUN Solaris flavor of UNIX? I use it with Apache for web servers. It's very nice and if you do get

    into a bind you can get support.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Have you

    looked at the SUN Solaris flavor of UNIX? I use it with Apache for web servers. It's very nice and if you do get

    into a bind you can get support.
    We have a Sun cluster that runs something called a "Learning Management

    System" (Blackboard).
    I case you're not familiar, a "LMS" is where faculty can post hand outs, lecture notes,

    PowerPoint presentations, grades etc. for students, and students can post homework and assignments etc.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim View Post
    We have a

    Sun cluster that runs something called a "Learning Management System" (Blackboard).
    I case you're not familiar, a

    "LMS" is where faculty can post hand outs, lecture notes, PowerPoint presentations, grades etc. for students, and

    students can post homework and assignments etc.
    Yes, I managed one when I was in the corporate world. Its

    been a few years, about 8-9 of them. Its probably changed a bit since then. We used it for all sorts of

    inter-departmental docs and were playing with a white board for meetings. We had three major facilities (Dallas, New

    York, California) that needed to communicate and we used that. Not quite the same. It was used mostly for

    collaboration.
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    Talking

    I've been playing with solaris

    10 (probably is the most powerful unix for multiprocessing environment) ...
    my desktop now is running a Linux

    backtrack 2.0, because I'm studying to get some security certifications. But when I get free time.. I'll do my own

    linux live CD distro that will be a complete open PKI system and smartcard authentication, Personal Identity

    Verification..etc (is there any partner to open an bussines based in an open model with me?, the debate is really

    about philosophy, not money..)
    talking about my philosophy and why I choose open source model.. is because I

    believe "IT" as 'science' and not as a 'product'. Imagine Sir. Issac Newton saying : 'I'll not tell you how

    gravitational law works, but I will charge you to calibrate your war cannon...'
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    I recieved the DVDs for Solaris

    10 a couple weeks ago and only recently installed it on a whitebox with a dual core processor. I downloaded the

    files three seperate times and they were always corrupt and I couldn't get it to install. Apache was easy enough

    though.

    My intent is to use it as a web server and maybe to host my email. I really want to get away from

    outside hosting companies.
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    I'm using Linux (OpenSuse

    10.2 at the moment) for some years now - and I don't think I'll ever go back to Windows. It's crazy what a bunch

    of guys shattered around the world have created, mostly in their free-time. I've still got Win XP on my PC, but

    I'm only using it as a game platform (which happens maybe once every month).

    Beryl looks really cool - maybe

    I should try it sometime...

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    I

    recieved the DVDs for Solaris 10 a couple weeks ago and only recently installed it on a whitebox with a dual core

    processor. I downloaded the files three seperate times and they were always corrupt and I couldn't get it to

    install. Apache was easy enough though.

    My intent is to use it as a web server and maybe to host my email. I

    really want to get away from outside hosting companies.
    have you been try belenix?..
    it's an

    solaris live CD (try & install it if it works)


    http://www.genunix.org/distributions/belenix_site/

    but I dont know if you have static IP and

    a good conection I agree with you that is better get your own server up & running..

    I've got nice results

    with DynDNS to get an valid DNS on internet and redirect it to my server ...

    and using a Linux LAMP as my

    server
    ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_%28software_bundle%29)

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