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    Default A theory on how none works

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    all I realize the smell or vibe also has an effect, but what I've realized is that it might be more about how none

    directly affects You than the women - when I wear PI or NPA pretty much all women I've had a date with, have said

    I've got a angry look, and it's true, none makes you have a more serious/angry look more often, even if you're

    happy and in a great mood... basically your usual "neutral slightly smiling" face becomes a "neutral slightly

    angry/serious" face.

    And when you have an angry/serious look and are able to more easily and effortlessly

    maintain it than the woman, then there will be a breaking point and the woman will become submissive and start

    trying to smile and please you, so that you would lighten up (kinda like you've passed the "a real man" test).



    Think about it - during the dates you've had one party (either you or the woman) usually gives more serious looks

    and the other is usually the one that talks more and tries to make the other person lighten up, with none you're

    the one who's more serious/angry and the women are trying to make the situation less serious/tense.

    It's kind

    of same how cocky and funny comedy works - first they act offended/angry, but if you continue and bring it up a

    notch, then they will break and become submissive so you wouldn't bust on them anymore.

    Any thoughts?

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    i've noticed PI makes me feel

    pissed off...so yeah, I get what you're saying, but it kind of gets me depressed too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by visual999 View Post
    First of all

    I realize the smell or vibe also has an effect, but what I've realized is that it might be more about how none

    directly affects You than the women - when I wear PI or NPA pretty much all women I've had a date with, have said

    I've got a angry look, and it's true, none makes you have a more serious/angry look more often, even if you're

    happy and in a great mood... basically your usual "neutral slightly smiling" face becomes a "neutral slightly

    angry/serious" face.

    And when you have an angry/serious look and are able to more easily and effortlessly

    maintain it than the woman, then there will be a breaking point and the woman will become submissive and start

    trying to smile and please you, so that you would lighten up (kinda like you've passed the "a real man" test).



    Think about it - during the dates you've had one party (either you or the woman) usually gives more serious

    looks and the other is usually the one that talks more and tries to make the other person lighten up, with none

    you're the one who's more serious/angry and the women are trying to make the situation less serious/tense.



    It's kind of same how cocky and funny comedy works - first they act offended/angry, but if you continue and

    bring it up a notch, then they will break and become submissive so you wouldn't bust on them anymore.



    Any thoughts?
    It certainly can help posture. Maybe your shoulder go back and you stand

    taller.

    At the same time, androstenone is generally something women can sense. It signals dominance. And you

    know what? A dose of dominance is sexy.

    It's the balance that counts. Because if women legitimately feel

    like they should be scared... that's when you've ODed!

    When they aren't fearful of what you may do to them

    but rather know you can whoop some ass on the other guy who tries to harrass them, and that you are a person with a

    backbone who they can't walk over and who has greater "social positioning" than them, that's when you have the

    right amount of androstenone.
    "An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf View Post
    It certainly can

    help posture. Maybe your shoulder go back and you stand taller.

    At the same time, androstenone is generally

    something women can sense. It signals dominance. And you know what? A dose of dominance is sexy.

    It's the

    balance that counts. Because if women legitimately feel like they should be scared... that's when you've

    ODed!

    Agree with this.

    When they aren't fearful of what you may do to them but rather know you can

    whoop some ass on the other guy who tries to harrass them, and that you are a person with a backbone who they can't

    walk over and who has greater "social positioning" than them, that's when you have the right amount of

    androstenone.

    Sorry guy, but this is where I part ways. If you are a normal built man with no

    fighting skills, and you have applied a couple of dabs or drops of your favorite none product. And some tough muscle

    bound or martial arts dude comes up without any artificial mones, what is the girl going to think? Better living

    through chemistry does not supercede reality. I can assure you ,that you can have NPA coming out your ying-yang and

    if someone is tougher,stronger, and a better fighter than you, and starts something with you, you will fill the back

    of your drawers three lovely shades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    Sorry guy, but

    this is where I part ways. If you are a normal built man with no fighting skills, and you have applied a couple of

    dabs or drops of your favorite none product. And some tough muscle bound or martial arts dude comes up without any

    artificial mones, what is the girl going to think? Better living through chemistry does not supercede reality. I can

    assure you ,that you can have NPA coming out your ying-yang and if someone is tougher,stronger, and a better fighter

    than you, and starts something with you, you will fill the back of your drawers three lovely

    shades.
    no tongue don't leave me! i thought we had something special

    The kicking ass

    thing wasn't meant to be taken literally. She's not really even thinking about who is kicking who's ass. She just

    feels safe.
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    Actually , you just described me

    without mones...
    Thats why I love SOE , it makes others realise I do have a sense of humour. I tend to have a

    serious look most of the time , even when relaxed and happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by visual999 View Post
    First

    of all I realize the smell or vibe also has an effect, but what I've realized is that it might be more about how

    none directly affects You than the women - when I wear PI or NPA pretty much all women I've had a date with, have

    said I've got a angry look, and it's true, none makes you have a more serious/angry look more often, even if

    you're happy and in a great mood... basically your usual "neutral slightly smiling" face becomes a "neutral

    slightly angry/serious" face.
    early 40's white male or or

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf View Post
    The kicking

    ass thing wasn't meant to be taken literally. She's not really even thinking about who is kicking who's ass. She

    just feels safe.


    Don't worry Futurist, I'm not leaving you. I will always try to guide you

    on the way of pheromone reality.

    A girl in todays times, wants to feel secure with a man, not safe. This is

    evolution in action. Ain't no chick gonna be safe, if you are unarmed and all the other guy would need is a 9mm

    Glock.

    No, women want to feel secure, and that's why a career and a man's ambition are far more attractive

    to quality women than anything. If you are going to try to replicate security with mones, than Rone, and to some

    degree, nol, are the way to go.

    People like Jimmy Kohl and a few others, realize this concept.

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    Is it possible to attract a

    woman using mones THEN making her like you for your ambitions, personality, ect? Mones are human instinctual way to

    attract a person. I guess conveying value is key after hte attraction phase of mones.


    Cant wait til i get my

    mones, hehe, i know ill be slightly confident than what i am now.

    - J

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    Don't worry

    Futurist, I'm not leaving you. I will always try to guide you on the way of pheromone reality.

    A girl in

    todays times, wants to feel secure with a man, not safe. This is evolution in action. Ain't no chick gonna be safe,

    if you are unarmed and all the other guy would need is a 9mm Glock.

    No, women want to feel secure, and

    that's why a career and a man's ambition are far more attractive to quality women than anything. If you are going

    to try to replicate security with mones, than Rone, and to some degree, nol, are the way to go.

    People like

    Jimmy Kohl and a few others, realize this concept.
    Tongue, you bring up some great points about -nol

    and -rone! But that doesn't negate what none brings to the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf View Post
    Tongue, you bring

    up some great points about -nol and -rone! But that doesn't negate what none brings to the table.


    Totally agree with you. None can certainly bring some interesting things to the table. Mother Nature has it here for

    a reason. But even for the best of users, artificial none can be wildly inconsistant.

    You can get the

    occasional wild hit with a none product, but also disasterous results.

    Back when you use to post here more

    frequently, this was one of your reaccuring themes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter101 View Post
    Is it

    possible to attract a woman using mones THEN making her like you for your ambitions, personality, ect? Mones are

    human instinctual way to attract a person. I guess conveying value is key after hte attraction phase of mones.





    - J
    I think the right pheromone signature can initially draw a women's interest to a

    man. But if she is a women of QUALITY, she will need to see some substance behind that pheromonial first response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    Don't worry

    Futurist, I'm not leaving you. I will always try to guide you on the way of pheromone reality.

    A girl in todays

    times, wants to feel secure with a man, not safe. This is evolution in action. Ain't no chick gonna be safe, if you

    are unarmed and all the other guy would need is a 9mm Glock.

    No, women want to feel secure, and that's why a

    career and a man's ambition are far more attractive to quality women than anything. If you are going to try to

    replicate security with mones, than Rone, and to some degree, nol, are the way to go.

    People like Jimmy Kohl and

    a few others, realize this concept.

    I agree actually. Androstenone is overrated IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge View Post
    I think

    the right pheromone signature can initially draw a women's interest to a man. But if she is a women of QUALITY, she

    will need to see some substance behind that pheromonial first response.

    Of couse, just using mones to

    attract women is just surface level. Beyond taht, conveying value has to be mutual and respectful for both parties.

    Then the attraction can build and so on. Hehe, if people are just using mones for just some fun and no

    relationships, how is it going for you guys? Me, i personally want to use mones to help me out and make it easier

    meeting quality women. Allot of qualifying on my part, nothing of that 'fun stuff' im looking for.. Although,

    there are some great reactions some members posted!

    - J

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