Making an impression

[kdeeig]

I

hope no one minds but I've been lurking for a few days, hoping to learn something new.



I have a non-date with someone I simply adore the first week of May and so I'm going to

experiment some. I made my first order, after reading up all weekend...and [very bravely?] decided to order a small

bottle of EW.

I also ordered some Boudoir from eBay...so we'll see

what sorts of reactions this might elicit when it comes.

I'm pretty

regularly hit on but I very rarely ever find myself attracted to anyone enough to even let them try to get closer.

Not to mention having been hung up on this same one guy for almost two years now...and never even getting my hand

held. It's a long story, but yes he's definitely attracted, no he's not married or otherwise involved, and no he

isn't gay...lol. He's simply very career driven and uh...well it's hard to explain really.



We're going to a concert together that first week of May and it will be the first time

we've been together since last September [we do communicate almost daily by either email or phone and have for over

a year now]...so I'd really like to make an impression, if you know what I mean.



I suppose I have time to order and try other products if anyone has any red hot advice

they're just dying to give?

I'd love some help.

[chirimoya]

Sounds like the EoW should

only help. You may want to experiment with it before your date so you get a handle on it. Remember to let it dry

down about 15 minutes, then cover it with fragrance. Don't be alarmed at how funky it smells at first when you

first put it on; it's the same on everyone at first...STRONG.

[kdeeig]

My first test day was

yesterday and I really diluted the EW with the Boudoir, 1 drop EW/5 of Boudoir. I had no problems. The only "hit" I

can sort of say I had was a guy at a mixer I went to, who after requesting to meet me promised not to sue my casino

for copy right infringement, because he "liked" me and gave me his permission to keep using the event tag line in my

advertising that caused the issue in the first place. LOL.

Other than that I was stuck with a lot of women for

most of the mixer...and like I said before, I'm sort of impervious to most males anyway...unless they're

completely so alpha that I can't possibly ignore them.

This morning I got brave and used 1 drop EW straight up

out of the bottle and am waiting to cover it up. I have another mixer in another city tonight so we'll see how that

goes. Like I said, I have time to experiment and try additional stuff-if you have any suggestions? The "non-date"

isn't until May 4th.

[kdeeig]

Okay, the Friday night mixer was even more boring than Thursday's was. No one even

offered to sue me as an excuse to meet me ::sigh::

I went with a gay co-worker who insisted we leave the mixer

and head straight for the mall to shop a great sale. There he forced me to try on tons of shoes that I didn't want

or need and still bought them anyway.

Today I put the EW on straight, one drop split between my wrists, another

shared between cleavage and behind the ears, covered it up with Chanel No. 5.

Tonight I had dinner with a few

friends and my Rabbi, who has always had a thing for me and flirts anyway. So who can tell? I mean, isn't the point

to get "wanted hits"?

I don't think I'm noticing anything out of the usual here yet...19 days to the official

non-date... advice anyone??

[sugarspice]

Well if the guy has always liked you, he will like you even if you stink. What ever sound, sight, or smell he felt

when he fell for you is the only thing you need to trigger his like again.

I've noticed that the guys who are

scent oriented have totally never been my type. Usually alot older and appear to care less about superficial

looks.

The ones I use to attract liked personality and looks. I could smell like apples, raisins or BO and

they'd still like me.

My point is if you focus on only one sense you will miss his trigger. Lets say he's a

visual guy and you lathering the scent of vagina on you....well you'll miss the connection if you focus on the

wrong sense. But it is good to cover all your bases I agree.

I had a friend who had a habit of not wearing

underwear and putting her legs on the car dashboard releasing the most offensive odor thinking she can seduce a man.

Both guys in the car ended up like me cuz I was funny and wearing an uber short dress. M perfume was light and

complimentary. Of course later I found out they had already gotten together so this *** was on to greener pasture.



Besides if you're friends with the opposite sex, you'll know guys will want to bang anything that talks to them!

So just use you lovely lips and speak.

[kdeeig]

Yes, we have all

the ingredients, the attraction is definitely mutual. He's older than me by, like, 16 years. He made a comment once

about coming home from Viet Nam and I said,
"Why that's the same year my daddy came back!"

I really should

learn to just shut up. The same thing that makes me a great broadcaster and publicist is probably the same thing

that gets me into trouble with the opposite sex. :::sigh:::

I know it sounds odd to have been in an emotional

relationship with some guy for almost two years and never to have had my hand held...but it's truly an odd

situation. he's very old fashioned, former law enforcement and now a politician...and I'm in media. So basically

he wants me to wait until he's out of office.

I'm just looking for something to push things along. I'm trying

to be patient. Hell, two years is plenty patient if you ask me. Emails every day, 4-6 hour phone calls, dinners

where we just stare lovesick at one another, etc...

I'm not going to make the first physical move on him. I'm

the girl and that isn't my job as far as I'm concerned. So like I said, it's good on all the levels...just

missing a physical element and I'm getting frustrated after almost two years.

Looking for the edge...if you

will?

I agree that if he likes me he will continue to. I'm just afraid he's moved me into the "only serious

relationship material" category...therefore we can't be anything. He accused me once of being an extremist and I

said,
"Well, Darlin' if the pot wants to call the kettle black, that's your issue, not mine."

I feel like a

cookie or something put on the back of the shelf, for later. I'd rather be eaten sooner, if you get my drift.

[sugarspice]

I hear you. Same thing happen

to me. Older man too!!! One was 16 years older the other was 12. I'm starting to get tired of this waiting around

nonsense. Seems to be an older guy thing. I think they all studied from the same book of making a girl hang

around.

You should read the book Art of Seduction. Then you'll understand why you want him so much. You can

turn it around so he desires you like a burning inferno. See gist is if you make them wait make them yearn they will

not be able to control themselves and throw them on you. I think that is his plan!!! Becareful with these older men

who make you wait! Love games.

Anywho, for me, APC seems to get all the older guys attention. When I say older i

mean like 50-ish. My friend says it smells like old ladies.

BTW, older guys do not jump your bones, they have

conversation and make love. Hahaha. Blame it on the decline of testosterone. So if you want to ahem them make sure

you have a handy stash of viagra.

As for the whole sexual bit...Girl, it's not you it's HIM!!!!

[Mtnjim]

... So if

you want to ahem them make sure you have a handy stash of viagra...

Uhmmmm! As an "older man" I've

never needed the stuff.

[kdeeig]

I'm pretty sure he doesn't need

any chemical help. He's a politician who got caught doing two girls at once about three years ago, not

seperately..we're talking the main event and the encore all at once. So, I can't imagine this is any sort of

impotency issue.

I also suffer absolutely no delusions that he doesn't have convenient distraction elsewhere,

though I'm sure it's of the out of town variety.

This is about "protecting" me...which is rediculous if you

ask me, cause I'm from Texas and I will shoot back.

He's been involved with uncovering some very serious

abuses and he gets death threats on a regular basis and has even had his truck firebombed in his driveway once.

He's retired law enforcement...so the whole Dirty Harry mentality is sort of there. What it really boils down to is

I think he thinks if anyone knew he deeply cared about someone that they might become a target, or at the very least

be used against him in some way.

The mutual attraction is already there, respect, compatibility etc.

Maybe

I'll order some APC as well...

I'm just so damn stubborn that I've dug in like a tick.

[sugarspice]

Uhmmmm!

As an "older man" I've never needed the stuff.

I'm just over exagerating for comedy sake.

please dont be offended.

As for the guy...well my two other guys i dealt with were all involved with others.

Sometimes they dont go there because they feel you might become too attached. I have guy friends who explain that

sometimes they dont go their right away just because they dont want to hurt you or be trapped. I always tell them

I'm against marriage and too lazy to be in a relationship. Definately makes it easier for them to pursue sex.



Anyhow wish you an awesome romantic evening full of fun and pleasure.

Oh my friend told me APC made her and

her boyfriend more excited when they saw eachother.

[Mtnjim]

... I'm

just over exagerating for comedy sake. please dont be offended....

Once you get to know me, you'll

find that I have a "rather dry" sense of humor!

[justfabulous]

Keedig I order EW and LT about 2-3 weeks ago and haven't seen any results

with them either. I used the LT several times and NOTHING! I only used the EW twice and didn't see any

changes either. As I stated before in my other post I am a very attractive girl so I get attention all the time.

However, its never the attention we want, ya know . I do the night life scene a lot, I just haven't had time

because of school. I'm going to try the EW this weekend when I go out and see what happens. I will cover it with my

Issey Miyake perfume. If still nothing, I will return and try Cleo or PI/w.

Just an FYI I saw someone mention the "Art of Seduction" by

Robert Green well he has another book called the "48 laws of Power" which is a great

read as well. But if your looking for a "take it or leave it" book then get "Why Men LOVE

Bitches" and "Why Men MARRY Bitches" by Sherry Orgov. I am telling you these books will

save you lots of heart ache . I actually knew most of the things in the book but it to see it in writing, I

had a lot of "Ah huh" moments while reading this book. It is a fun read.

I see the situation your going through with your relationship and I never

had that type of problem or dated a man that old, I'm 27yrs old however I always dated older men. My point is NEVER

EVER ask a man questions about ANYTHING regarding the relationship, especially sex. I have the opposite problem,

guys don't stick around because I just refuse to sleep with them. Not that I don't want to, its just that the more

you say no, don't call or don't ask any questions the MORE they chase and they more they are into you. PERIOD. Get

those books!

[Silv]

Sounds like

the EoW should only help. You may want to experiment with it before your date so you get a handle on it. Remember to

let it dry down about 15 minutes, then cover it with fragrance. Don't be alarmed at how funky it smells at first

when you first put it on; it's the same on everyone at first...STRONG.

Hi Chirimoya,
i've read a lot

about EOW and i also been using it for over a week. EOW didn't work for me at all. To me the smell was not so

bad. It smelled like vinegar or rotten grapes. i think it smelled better than other mones i got TE/w, SOE/w, and

Cleo. They were all unscented and to me they smelled worse than body odor. i couldn't even breath after i only

applied 1-2 drops . With EoW i applied 2 drops, one drop on each side of my neck and one split drop on both

wrists and waited 15 mins before i use coverscent. i followed all the instructions from all the EoW posts here but

it didn't work for me. Maybe i'm not using enough?? i have a question on the drops. Is one drop referring to

all the fluid in the whole droppler? (i doubt it as too much in the whole droppler). i hope you can give me extra

tips on EOW.
thanks!

[Silv]

Keedig I order EW and LT about 2-3 weeks ago and

haven't seen any results with them either. I used the LT several times and NOTHING! I only used the EW twice

and didn't see any changes either.



Me too, EOW did not work for me either. It worked so well

for so many but i couldn't figure out why it didn't work for

me???




As I stated before in my

other post I am a very attractive girl so I get attention all the time. However, its never the attention we want, ya

know . I do the night life scene a lot, I just haven't had time because of school. I'm going to try the EW

this weekend when I go out and see what happens. I will cover it with my Issey Miyake perfume. If still nothing, I

will return and try Cleo or PI/w.

Just an FYI

I saw someone mention the "Art of Seduction" by Robert Green well he has another book called

the "48 laws of Power" which is a great read as well. But if your looking for a "take it or

leave it" book then get "Why Men LOVE Bitches" and "Why Men MARRY Bitches" by

Sherry Orgov. I am telling you these books will save you lots of heart ache . I actually knew most of the

things in the book but it to see it in writing, I had a lot of "Ah huh" moments while reading this book. It

is a fun read.

I see the situation your

going through with your relationship and I never had that type of problem or dated a man that old, I'm 27yrs old

however I always dated older men. My point is NEVER EVER ask a man questions about ANYTHING regarding the

relationship, especially sex. I have the opposite problem, guys don't stick around because I just refuse to sleep

with them. Not that I don't want to, its just that the more you say no, don't call or don't ask any questions the

MORE they chase and they more they are into you. PERIOD. Get those books!

More

power to you!! You are so right on that. Even men said the more time they use to chase you the more they will

appreciate you. I got this info from Cosmo. it's a great site to visit (i think)

[kdeeig]

Okay, well this seems to be going

off track here. I'm not interested in being a bitch, I have to do it every day at work. I'm also not interested in

getting him to marry me. I've been single for 7 years next month and I've had more than one chance to get

remarried, if that was my goal...and it definitely isn't.

All I'm interested in is getting the man to drop

some of his physical defenses, which he is somehow convinced might get me in some sort of trouble.

I'm not

asking for the moon, just to get my hand held or a nice kiss instead of just staring at each other love sick the

whole time.

I'm not trying to seduce him, because like I said before, that's not my job...and frankly we're

already there. It's not a lack of attraction or interest.

I do definitely appreciate the feedback, though.

Thanks everyone.

[justfabulous]

Hello all! Hey Keedig, I agree with you being "fabulous & single" and just

loving yourself. I am fabulous and single as well and LOVE every minute of it. The books I refered to you

all are more about being a "independent woman" and loving yourself no matter if you have a man or not. I know the

titles are a bit misleading but the books are so much more than

that.



You said your not "asking for the moon" well honey you should. I ask for the moon

and settle for the stars. One thing I have learned in my years of dating & relationships is that if a man REALLY

wants you, be it emotionally or physically he will make it happen! No if's, ands or buts about it. Yes I know you

said he might think your in danger if someone finds out and your not in denial about him getting his "kicks"

elsewhere but trust me when I tell you if he really wanted it to happen it would have. Look at all the love stories

dating back to Adam and Eve, Romeo & Juliet. Hey I might be wrong but these are just my thoughts. I normally don't

get into grown people business but you posted it so I replied.



This

post is really for all the ladies on this forum that are struggling in their relationship or are having "men

problems" because we all have at some point or another. I hope you find what your looking for Keedig

.

[sugarspice]

This post is really for all the ladies on this forum

that are struggling in their relationship or are having "men problems" because we all have at some point or

another. .

Amen. If we didnt have man problems we wouldn't be here. It's

either too much or not enough of something!

Well just to make a point clear, the books on sediction was to let

you know what HE is doing. I agree chasing is the man's job. But seducing is the woman's job. Seducing is not

blantant groping, caressing, it is the art of drawing you in. Either manipulating your surrounding by using the

visual, psychological, and perhaps the invisible, like use of pheromones.

To know is to be in control. Once

someone loses control thats when you'll have a wonderful physical relationship.

[justfabulous]

But seducing is the woman's job. Seducing is not blantant groping, caressing, it is the

art of drawing you in. Either manipulating your surrounding by using the visual, psychological, and perhaps the

invisible, like use of pheromones.

To know is to be in control. Once someone loses control thats when you'll

have a wonderful physical relationship.

I couldn't have said

it better myself. So true.

[kdeeig]

Yep, that's exactly why I'm

trying the stuff, too.

I guess what I meant by not seducing him was I'm not going to make the first physical

move in this relationship. Matter of fact I've promised him I won't. It's still hard for him and the reason we

don't see one another in person very often...I know he doesn't trust himself too far in that department. If it

were really all platonic on his end he wouldn't have any problem seeing me in person on a regular basis. Like I

said, we're basically in touch by phone or eamil every day...it's the in person thing that he's so worried

about.

He's in the process of deciding whether to run again or not...if he does I might just punch his lights

out or something, lol.

[Monette]

The Edge + PPA should get him in

the mood. (my experience w/Edge is touchy-feely w. sexual tension/PPA-amorous & attentive) whenever I wear that even

if its to 7-11, I have men wanting to touch my hands or hold my elbows while getting to know me. I noticed

they lean in w/ deep eye contact too. I live in Florida & I am large framed like Queen Latifah, so I guess I give

off more body heat to release more of the mones.
Good Luck w the experimenting!

[chirimoya]

Hi

Chirimoya,
i've read a lot about EOW and i also been using it for over a week. EOW didn't work for me at all.

To me the smell was not so bad. It smelled like vinegar or rotten grapes. i think it smelled better than other

mones i got TE/w, SOE/w, and Cleo. They were all unscented and to me they smelled worse than body odor. i

couldn't even breath after i only applied 1-2 drops . With EoW i applied 2 drops, one drop on each side of

my neck and one split drop on both wrists and waited 15 mins before i use coverscent. i followed all the

instructions from all the EoW posts here but it didn't work for me. Maybe i'm not using enough?? i have a

question on the drops. Is one drop referring to all the fluid in the whole droppler? (i doubt it as too much in the

whole droppler). i hope you can give me extra tips on EOW.
thanks!

Hi Silv...every woman will have a

different threshold with EoW. You just have to keep experimenting until you get it. Vary the number of drops, the

application points, etc.

I find that 4+ drops is good for me (and that's one drop from the dropper, not a whole

dropper full). Sides of neck, smeared on chest, lower arms & wrist, any place that gets warm and/or is

exposed.

Also, keep in mind pheromones can't do it all. You need to step into the aura they help create. E.g.

you can't be a wallflower wearing EoW and expect men to be climbing all over you. At least this has been my

experience. Let the pheromones help you step out of your comfort zone a bit and THEN see if there's a difference in

how men perceive/treat you.

Good luck