Changing behaviour since using -none

[bubblebob]

Hey guys!

I have this very cute girl sitting in my office (I'm actually in love with her, but unfortunately

she's got a boyfriend). For about half a year now I've been wearing some mones almost every time I went to work -

mostly SoE and/or Chikara. We always had some kind of flirting going on - we were busting each other a little, some

touching, sitting very close to one another, tickling and having fun... However, things changed about two weeks ago.

She's still laughing at my jokes, but she is also obviously keeping some distance to me. For example, when she

stood up to get a printout (the printer is right behind me) she almost always stood behind me looking what I was

doing or was trying to tickle me, once she started massaging me - now she just passes me without doing anything...

Looking back now I think her change in behaviour fell into the same time I started using some -none at work. It's

never been much though - mostly just one or two dabs of NPA, max. one drop. The strange thing is that I got some

hits by other girls wearing -none during the past few weeks - girls were smiling a lot, looking at me more than

usual etc... And no signs of OD whatsoever. So I think I can exclude the possibility of me OD-ing.

Of course

there's always the possibility that this is just a coincidence and she just decided to stop that flirting between

us, or maybe she has some problems that I'm not aware of. But if the -none is causing this change, what exactly

could make her back off?

- Maybe the smell of NPA-cat-piss, that's not been covered enough (I've been using

Black Code recently - 2 sprays)? I think she has a very good sense of smell - she hates cucumbers and can smell it

if someone in the office is eating a salad with cucumbers in them).
- Maybe the change in my 'signature'? Could

it be that people, who know me for some time now, become suspicious when my -mone signature changes?
- Maybe she

has problems with -none-heavy people in general?
- Could it have something to do with her age - she's only 21

(I'm 29 btw)?
- Maybe I'm not congruent with that alpha-male image that my -mone-signature is giving

off?

Has anybody experienced something similar with people they know? And has someone an idea what the exact

reason could be?

I'm missing our little flirting in the office quite a lot (it made boring days at work much

more enjoyable), so I have decided to stop using -none products when I'm at work and going back to some SoE and C7.

I'm curious if things will get back to normal then...

Thanks for reading and I'm hoping to hear some

suggestions about the actual reasons (or maybe some cancelling out of possible reasons suggested above).

bb

[WorkingMann]

I've tried this

also...
It's at my school where I work with 3 girls and the 1 have I always joked around with, played with etc

etc. but on days with none she's more reserved and not so recievably to my normal humor..

I'm not sure but to

me it seems as because they know us as something then when we "change" they don't like us because we're not the

one they like anymore..
And people that don't know us will recieve it great as they don't know us yet..
Perhaps

because of the alreasy made up impression they have of us...
Remember people can be very addictive to varius

paterns.. People can get annoyed with people they don't know and haven't met if they in a room take the chair and

table they normally sit at.. So perhaps this can be the explanation.. You're out of your normal patern and therefor

she reacts differently..

[Gegogi]

I cycle though various products

and mixes every week and people I know well don't change their fundamental behavior towards me. I fact, they're

largely immune to my pheromones in terms of resulting behavior (yeah, yeah I know it works at a biological level but

their brain filters it out). However, I can readily observe new effects on more causual acquaintances--my

students--and strangers.

However, since she is in a relationship she may have realized the conflict of interest

in your friendship. So it ain't a coincidence but really isn't a pheromone related matter. Cooling it off is the

logical and morally correct thing to do. If she were to continue fanning it on it would only lead to problems. Been

there and done that. The problems--enraged BF and emotionally distraught woman--are not worth it. If she breaks up

with so-n-so you won't want her on the rebound--she ain't ready and too much baggage. Plus, could you really trust

a woman that fools around while in a relationship?

[chicago]

she lost interest, using mones

help, but it comes down to your game. and my experience none is it works good or it works bad thats why i like

products with low none
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TEEN

CUMMING

[DrSmellThis]

I've had to avoid -none when

I'm at work, except when I'm my own boss.

You've possibly ceased to be "safe" to her.

You'll have to

pick your poison. You might try omitting the -none.

One girl's perfect dose is another's OD. Two dabs to a

drop of NPA is a lot. Don't be so sure you're not OD'ing.

[bubblebob]

Thanks for you answers

everyone! I've decided to not wear any -none products at work for some weeks and see, if things become normal

again... After this I might try one dab of my self-made Edge and see, if that's okay for her.

@DST: I have

the impression, that NPA is too strong for me, too - maybe I'm slightly ODing with one dab of NPA already - but the

OD reactions are not so strong that they are easily noticable (like always having a one mile radius of fleeing

people around). As I've written in another thread already - hits with one dab NPA were always happening quite a

long time after applying (at least 7 or 8 hours). Most of the NPA would have 'flown away' by then. When arriving

at the office, my application is always fresh - only half an hour old... It's just hard to imagine that such a tiny

little dab, a barely wet finger, can have such effects...

bb

[bubblebob]

I'm currently at work - first

day after Easter holidays. I've applied some SOE and 1 spray of Chikara in the morning and I have to say that it's

far better going today than in the last two weeks of me wearing heavy -none products. I'm still quite inexperienced

in using -none (have been wearing SOE and Chikara mainly), so I was expecting clearer signs of ODing, like strangers

totally avoiding me etc... It seems that signs of ODing can be much more subtle...

I might try using TE

sometime in the future, but will stay away from heavy-none-products for now...

[Can'tFocus]

Has anybody

experienced something similar with people they know? And has someone an idea what the exact reason could be?



I'm missing our little flirting in the office quite a lot (it made boring days at work much more enjoyable), so I

have decided to stop using -none products when I'm at work and going back to some SoE and C7. I'm curious if

things will get back to normal then...

Thanks for reading and I'm hoping to hear some suggestions about the

actual reasons (or maybe some cancelling out of possible reasons suggested above).

Well, it

depends. If you want to use none, the effect you should be looking for from a women is "Hey I kinda know that scent,

is that a hint of urinal...bodily odor that I recognize? not too overpowering stench but just a fecal-pleasant scent

amist perfume?" I assume, due to the nature of the None-odor, it should ring a bell in your targets mind stimulating

her to attempt to recall the odor in the depth of her mind, undergo momentary disbelief, switch to a highten state

of alertness, until the effect adapts to her olfactory perception accept it, or revert her thought pattern back to

normal. It's supposed to create a window of opportunity that's why mones = 5-10% of the whole socialising

equation. There are other factors that I've heavily discounted for explaining this.

Personally, I think it's

urine like smell that produces DIHL effects. Somehow women are attracted to natural body scents: I've noticed my

girl sniffing and filling her lungs with my sweaty shirts and wearing them on, feeling kind sexy after that.
Others

don't think so: This qoute from JVK "Many people rely on such anecdotes, try the products, and agree

that there is more at play than "smell." The LH response to pheromones can be elicited by other sensory (think,

visual) input--but only after it is "conditioned" to occur in response to pheromones."



But please,

that a shower before you go to work, because the dynamics of pre-relationship, and whence you are into one change.

[gaf]

Keep with that mix for a week or two

so you get used to the responses , once you know what to look for you'll love it! I find it makes my workmates very

friendly ,chatty and tend to have a "whats your take on this?" attitude towards me and my opinions. Also effects me

in a very positive way.

I'm currently at work - first day after

Easter holidays. I've applied some SOE and 1 spray of Chikara in the morning and I have to say that it's far

better going today than in the last two weeks of me wearing heavy -none products. I'm still quite inexperienced in

using -none (have been wearing SOE and Chikara mainly), so I was expecting clearer signs of ODing, like strangers

totally avoiding me etc... It seems that signs of ODing can be much more subtle...

[Slinger]

I know this is old, but who

cares.

Bob, it's obvious that this girl saw you as her girlfriend. Tickling, etc, I mean I was not there to

read the body-language firsthand, but it sounds like the classic just-friends deal. You mention no sexual

overtones, so I assume there were none. She saw you as a penisless, "safe" entity, for far too long, so when she

gets a whiff of NPA on you, she recoils because you are no longer "sexless plaything" but "man on the hunt", and she

doesn't know how to deal with that. So go after the girls who showed REAL interest, forget this chick, because the

two of you may as well have been two pajama-wearing 12 year olds hitting each other with pink pillows on a pink bed,

in a pink room with ponies on the wall.

'Slinger

[koolking1]

that was harsh!!

It also might be that she's pregnant, have heard that pregnant women shy away mightily from .none products.

[tenaciousBLADE]

I know this is old, but who cares.



Bob, it's obvious that this girl saw you as her girlfriend. Tickling, etc, I mean I was not there to read the

body-language firsthand, but it sounds like the classic just-friends deal. You mention no sexual overtones, so I

assume there were none. She saw you as a penisless, "safe" entity, for far too long, so when she gets a whiff of NPA

on you, she recoils because you are no longer "sexless plaything" but "man on the hunt", and she doesn't know how

to deal with that. So go after the girls who showed REAL interest, forget this chick, because the two of you may as

well have been two pajama-wearing 12 year olds hitting each other with pink pillows on a pink bed, in a pink room

with ponies on the wall.

'Slinger

It WAS indeed harsh. Nonetheless I think Slinger here is somewhat

right.
I'm not saying she saw you as a peniless entity, but she might indeed have seen you two as friends only.

There might have been sexual tension as well, however you were "safe" enough in one way or another (take into

account you used mostly `nol with her - which means chatty mostly). And now the `none kicks in and you probably seem

suddenly a bit "too grown up" for her.
Also - she's 21. From my experience... and I have a lot of it with girls

her age... she might have been somewhat attracted to you because of the `nol (even if on an enough subconsious level

for her to still accept you as a friend although she has a b\f). `nol truly attracts the age range of 16 to 22,

with an emphasis on 20-21.
Now sudenly she smells so much `none (a drop of NPA might be a lot for some people), and

you're no longer "safe" or maybe just no longer as "I-can-so-talk-to-him... so-much-I-might-get-horney-for-him" as

before (`coz of the lack f `nol, and it's replacement with such a heavy `mone as `none at such strong doses).



I'm curious to hear how the method of returnng to the old pattern worked out... It was, IMHO, the best thing to

do (even if just to experiment and check out the result).

So bubblebob - if you're still here... please do tell

us the rest of the story... How did things work out?