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    I can see that LS has a small

    4ml roll top, but only a 10ml atomizer.

    2.5ml would be excellent .. can't find that anywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckPang View Post
    HI

    Terry,
    where do you get the 2.5ml spray bottles from?
    They were given to me

    full of pheromone as a trial size gift when i purchased pheromones from another pheromone source.
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    I can't remember who but someone

    was asking what scented A7 smells like:
    Cloves and Cinnamon, a sort of allspice (not oldspice!) scent

    I cover

    with CK eternity and find that it mixes well with it , in fact most "fresh" & "citrus" colognes seem to work well

    over the top for me.
    Another thing I find is that if I'm a bit cocky and funny towards older (40+) woman (a la "de

    angelo") they go nuts and conversations can get very sexual, sometimes just a bit too much information on their

    part...

    My dose: around half a drop for no more then 3 days on the neck, two days off heavy none products after

    that as I'm naturally high in the none dept. Also I do find that A7 effects me in a positive way , I'm a bit more

    open and confident towards people and don't mind speaking my mind, regardless.
    early 40's white male or or

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    The gel/pks SOE are very convenient and easy to use as

    well as being reliable and effective.


    They are good to use if

    you are not prepared, or do not have access to the 10ml roller top bottle. BUT


    The SOE 10mL roller top bottle contains the same pheromone as about 62.5 gel/pks

    SOE.

    I wonder what the cost of 62.5 pcks compared with the 10ml

    bottle. ?


    The roller top bottle is

    wonderful

    to use when the roller ball has been freed up and is

    rolling at 100% efficiency


    I have just ordered

    another bottle of SOE and i will probably swap rollers over and put my old one in the new

    bottle.


    I also like to use the drops of SOE and measure them

    into my own unique mixes and spray bottles.


    Its is then so easy

    to carry a small 2.5 ml spray bottle around ready for a quickie ( spray that is ) ha

    ha.


    I have also squeezed gel/pks into spray bottles with

    some Alpha 7 added or NPA or whatever it is just so easy.


    I

    have a good variety of sprayers made up and ready for action to suit a variety of

    occasions.


    I like to have my guns loaded and ready for action

    Thank you Terry 4 ur reply.
    I just recieved my Soe and npa. Am planning to

    give a try over the weekend.
    What combination should I use? Soon I will ask for rise to my boss. He is white.

    What I have right now are: CHIKARA, LIQUID TRUST,SOE,NPA,A7 MASTER,AE,TE,PERCEPTION,AND IR.
    And also pretty soon

    I will have a important interview,but I don,t know if is going to be male o female.
    Thanks in advance for all

    replys on this matter.

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    Raul, would love to hear

    feedback from you, or anyone else, on Terry's trademark mix: 4 dabs of NPA and 24'' of SOE

    I've never done

    more than 12 '' SOE, so it got me very very curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raul1966 View Post
    Thank you Terry 4 ur reply.
    I just recieved my Soe and npa. Am planning to give a try over

    the weekend.
    What combination should I use? Soon I will ask for rise to my boss. He is white. What I have right now

    are: CHIKARA, LIQUID TRUST,SOE,NPA,A7 MASTER,AE,TE,PERCEPTION,AND IR.
    And also pretty soon I will have a important

    interview,but I don,t know if is going to be male o female.
    Thanks in advance for all replys on this

    matter.
    For the interveiw Alpha7 x 1/2 drop + SOE x 24", Spread this

    around the neck front area. and pat in some nice fragrance to get the mix diffusing well, +



    LT x 4 sprays to upper chest area of shirt, like 2 each

    side.


    This will give you the dominance of around 12 mcg aNONE

    with 48 mcg aNOL Softening Attractant and about 14mcg of aRONE Added Gentleman. With the reassurance Factor 4 of the

    LT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    For the interveiw Alpha7 x 1/2 drop + SOE x 24",

    Spread this around the neck front area. and pat in some nice fragrance to get the mix diffusing well, +



    LT x 4 sprays to upper chest area of shirt, like 2 each

    side.


    This will give you the dominance of around 12 mcg aNONE

    with 48 mcg aNOL Softening Attractant and about 14mcg of aRONE Added Gentleman. With the reassurance Factor 4 of the

    LT.
    I already took notes Terry,Thank you for such a great info.

    24 in of soe sound a lot,what can happen if OD?

    Terry have u ever got women get

    wild when using pheros?


    Raul, would love to hear feedback from you, or

    anyone else, on Terry's trademark mix: 4 dabs of NPA and 24'' of SOE

    I've never done more than 12 '' SOE,

    so it got me very very curious.
    Yes Visual999 I will give it a try w/ 24 in.
    Today I used 8 in of SOE and

    people were so talkative and making jokes out of thing air; and me I felt so nice,so confident. Wonderful

    experience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raul1966 View Post
    I already took notes Terry,Thank you for such a great info. 24 in of soe

    sound a lot,what can happen if OD?

    Terry have u ever got women get wild when using

    pheros?


    Raul, would love to hear feedback from you, or anyone else, on Terry's trademark mix: 4 dabs

    of NPA and 24'' of SOE

    I've never done more than 12 '' SOE, so it got me very very curious.
    Yes Visual999

    I will give it a try w/ 24 in.
    Today I used 8 in of SOE and people were so talkative and making jokes out of thing

    air; and me I felt so nice,so confident. Wonderful experience!
    Raul Hi ya,

    Yes 24" SOE may seem much for some younger age than me, actually it is about 60mcg of Pheromone content which is

    smaller amount than one SOE gel/pck. which = 80 mcg.


    I have also had results with smaller amounts

    but i am a man who likes to make the

    ABOMB.


    Ha ha i have had a bad experience one day

    when i was working at arms reach of about 5 women,


    I was wearing about 20 mcg aNONE and about

    40mcg aRONE each day and 4 of the good looking chicks were treating me like prince charming and inviting me into

    their car at break times.


    So along comes this young large overweight girl for a days work and as soon as i get about 3 feet

    away from her she just stares at me and really badmouths me and tries to compete with me for 4 hours and all the

    time just staring at me everytime i look up , she hated me,


    Well she leaves job after lunch and not

    returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40 View Post
    Raul Hi ya, Yes 24" SOE may seem much for some younger

    age than me, actually it is about 60mcg of Pheromone content which is smaller amount than one SOE gel/pck. which =

    80 mcg.


    I have also had results with smaller amounts but i am a

    man who likes to make the

    ABOMB.


    Ha ha i have had a bad experience one day when i was working at arms reach of about 5 women,



    I was wearing about 20 mcg aNONE and about 40mcg aRONE each

    day and 4 of the good looking chicks were treating me like prince charming and inviting me into their car at break

    times.


    So along comes this young large overweight girl for a

    days work and as soon as i get about 3 feet away from her she just stares at me and really badmouths me and tries to

    compete with me for 4 hours and all the time just staring at me everytime i look up , she hated

    me,


    Well she leaves job after lunch and not returns.

    Terry, I get lost when you talk about aNONE and aRONE, not familiar w/ those terms.


    Before using pheros, a lady,she fight so muc w' me, to the point that she pissed me off and stop talking w/ her,


    But now that I'm using pheros, she alwayslooking for an opportunity to talk to me; is mazing how pheros work man.


    Now one of my neihbour, she is married, but looks like she doesn't care. She keeps inviting me to her home,for

    lunch or dinner.
    Hope Iwon;t get addicted to use pheros man!! this shit is goood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raul1966 View Post
    Terry, I get lost when you talk about aNONE and aRONE, not familiar w/ those terms.
    Before

    using pheros, a lady,she fight so muc w' me, to the point that she pissed me off and stop talking w/ her,
    But now

    that I'm using pheros, she alwayslooking for an opportunity to talk to me; is mazing how pheros work man.
    Now one

    of my neihbour, she is married, but looks like she doesn't care. She keeps inviting me to her home,for lunch or

    dinner.
    Hope Iwon;t get addicted to use pheros man!! this shit is goood!
    Hey good going Raul, I wouldn't worry too much about the names of the pheromones, Just keep on

    using what u are using.


    If you find that your products are losing their effective edge at any time, just take a day or two

    rest from the pheromones and all will return again, just like a really great errection after a few days rest ha ha.



    Hey

    that reminds me whilst i was talking about errection, Hey man be very carefull

    with your snake in the place where you are living, especially around the married chick, is better

    to put the snake out to play away from home area so as not get into trouble.
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    dunno about you guys, but my A7

    experience is close to zero.

    First women commented that I stink, days after that no reaction whatsoever. So that

    it is abit hard for me to believe all those stories (really no pun intended, I respect you all)

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    It sounds to me like you should

    be trying things that are not high none. I see a lot of the same old advice about buying high none products and a

    lot of newbies buy nothing but none based products. In general I think they are giving poor advice to the newbies,

    especially the young ones. Try something like SoE or with a good cover.

    The best advice I can give you

    is too get a small quantity of SoE gel packs and try them. See how they do for you.
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    Just wanted to weigh in on the

    feeling you get sometimes with -None.

    I do feel a bit more masculine with it on, I assume like the men did back

    thousands of years ago right before they went on a hunt or something.

    I also get tip-of-the-tongue syndrome a

    bit, even mentioning simple concepts sometimes goes faster than my brain can process it. I think that -None somehow

    inhibits higher reasoning and recall (maybe it's your body getting into a combat mode, shutting down higher

    thinking a bit so you just "go with it" in battle).

    I also find myself with a slightly shorter fuse when on

    -None. I've blown up a time or two when I think I would have let it go if I didn't have -None on.

    Also (as

    mentioned in another post) guys can get territorial/pissy if you wear -None. Methinks it's an evolutionary response

    - if an alpha male steps into your territory and tries to take your girl (or maybe just steps into your territory in

    general), responding/puffing up your chest/driving off the alpha would help ensure that your genes are passed

    on.

    I think mones tap into the animalistic base we still have as humans. Since we are all designed to try to

    survive and replicate, these subconscious cues help us determine who is best to pair up with. The mones just help to

    speed up that process a bit.

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    DOH, double post. Sorry. :\

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    So, what happens to the poor

    guy that can't walk the walk when he wears none? You need to be congruent with mones. You can't have an alpha

    signature and beta behavoir and pull it off.

    I'm 50 years old, several other experienced forum members are the

    same age or older. Each of us has a different result with mones. I've been in good shape most of my life, am a

    hairy caucasion and have always been a leader. None does not go well with me, at all! Gegogi is similar to me in

    many ways in our personalities. He is also Asian. He can wear enough none to float a boat and gets great results.



    All I am trying to say is that each person is different. Alpha males are a small percentage of any social order,

    they have to be. Advising everybody that they can bring that off is a bad idea, it isn't going to work that way.

    Each is different and should test for themselves to see what works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euro View Post
    dunno about

    you guys, but my A7 experience is close to zero.

    First women commented that I stink, days after that no

    reaction whatsoever. So that it is abit hard for me to believe all those stories (really no pun intended, I respect

    you all)
    Euro: it's very helpful to cover up the pheromones (ESPECIALLY -None) with cologne or

    deodorant or (shudder) body spray or SOMETHING. The mones (and the unscented ones in particular) don't have the

    most pleasant smell on their own. Having a cologne to cover it up works well because (IMO) when a girl gets the mone

    signature and wonders "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?" she can rationalize that it's your cologne and not your stinky B.O.

    that's causing her to react like that.

    Adding cologne to your arsenal should turn the girls that are going

    "Wow you stink!" to girls that inhale your smell deeply and ask "WHAT IS THAT?!" while looking at you with googly

    eyes. THAT is the kind of reaction you want!

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    How long does one drop of this

    stuff last on your skin if you don't wash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi View Post
    Yep, and

    it has 18 other "trace" pheromones in the other 20% including a wee bit of none. A314 dresses up well for

    evenings/dates with a few dabs of NPA/TE and a couple stripes of SOE. However A314 is an ideal standalone for work.

    It enhances your professional image and gives you an alpha edge without the negative qualities with none.





    To be precise, NPA smells like a cross between cat wee, workout armpit and bugspray. Piss smells far

    better.
    I've heard people say that alot. With the NPA/TE, I can't smell anything I'd relate to sweat

    or urine. A really strong rubbing alcohol kind of smell and some lesser things I couldn't quite tell. I had a

    female friend sniff straight from the bottle, without telling her what it was, and all she said was alcohol and it

    smells "woodsy".

    I expected more a reaction like the Jeff Foxworthy bit where he holds up a bottle for someone

    to smell and says "tell me that don't stink.."
    The A7 sounds really great. I just haven't gotten past the

    part of parting with $60 yet though. It sounds like its worth it though.
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    A7 is worth it Pendragon.

    Against my usual practice I would even recommend the scented version, very nice, but still need to cover. For a

    -none product, I like it better than NPA or TE. Then again, I can't wear heavy -none, so it seems perfect for me,

    but maybe not others who can wear it heavy.

    -none smells differently when on the skin as compared to in the

    bottle. The alcohol dissipates quickly and leaves the characteristic smell. The same is true for fragrance.

    Always experiment at home with any -mone product to smell its final result on your skin.

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    Thanks. I'll look at getting

    it after I've tested more with the things I already have.

    I can't take more than a dab or few drops of TE.

    Just one spray of straight TE really messes with my head. Such as headache and a bit aggravated feeling.
    If I'm the rubber and your the glue..then I'd probably get some, and you'd just be sticky

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    I just got the scented

    SOE/man and NPA/men combo, and would like to know what would be the best mix of the two combined together. And one

    more thing, when it comes to SOE, I see people saying to apply it in inches (i.e. 8", 10", 12"), what do they mean

    by that exactly?
    I'm a 31 year old latin male, a bit on the shy side at first when approaching strangers, please

    advice...also what's the best places of applying SOE and NPA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DssMaster View Post
    I

    just got the scented SOE/man and NPA/men combo, and would like to know what would be the best mix of the two

    combined together. And one more thing, when it comes to SOE, I see people saying to apply it in inches (i.e. 8",

    10", 12"), what do they mean by that exactly?
    I'm a 31 year old latin male, a bit on the shy side at first when

    approaching strangers, please advice...also what's the best places of applying SOE and NPA?
    First with cap on the SOE bottle, give it a little shake up, Now hold the SOE bottle upright in your hand and remove the white cap by turning

    it in an anti clockwise direction, Now keeping the bottle in an upright position run your finger or palm over the

    tip of the ball so as to make sure it is lubricated with pheromones and is rolling well. ( use clean hands

    )


    When the

    ball is rolling around free and easy then it is time to tip the bottle over and use it like a pen to draw a line on

    your neck or chest or wrist or biceps or the hairless area of your fore arm , So if the line of pheromones you have

    drawn on your skin is 15 centimetre in length, then that is nearly 6 " inches "


    Once you have used the NPA alone for several

    weeks, say starting with one or two light dabs and working up to a full drop or two if necessary until you get the

    best amount to use alone, Then start adding some inches of SOE to your wrist pulsepoints and upper chest neck or

    below your ears using anything between 6" and 30" depending upon the circumstances and also according to the amount

    that works best for you.


    If you have not used SOE previously then it may be advisable to use it alone for a few weeks to

    see what amount gives you the best results.
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    Hey Terry, thanks for your

    help man, this is my first time using pheros so I will experiment with different applications of SOE and see what

    works best. I was also wondering if it would be ok to put some NPA inside the SOE bottle to mix them both, that way

    when I apply the SOE I would be getting a dosage of NPA with it as well. Not sure if I should try and risk it. Have

    you, or anyone here tried doing that with good results?
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    You might want to leave them

    separate, or at least mix small amounts in a separate bottle. Otherwise, get the amount of NPA wrong and you have

    trashed a whole bottle of SoE.
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    Jim, I just posted essentially

    the same answer in another thread. Great minds and all...

    It occurs to me also, that NPA might be too much for

    you Dss. At your age you probably produce a lot of -none. Use it very sparingly to start, and work up.

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    idesign, what

    amount of NPA/men should I use for my age? One drop, or just one or two dabs spread around the neck area? Also be

    aware that I will be covering it with my scented SOE/men, which smells just like Cool Water cologne. I got the

    NPA/men as part of the combo deal, so I don't think I would be able to exchange it for something else, but I think

    if I use it in small amounts, I should be fine with it.

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    You could start with a "litle

    finger" dab of NPA and go from there over time. It amy take some time for you to figure out how it works. Plus

    androstenone is one of those pheromones that can have some different effects on women depending on "the phase of the

    moon" so to speak.

    You could also consider applying NPA or other androstenone products to your chest (or lower),

    someplace covered with clothing. It would help "control" the amount floating around you, but be there for when the

    clothes come off type thing.
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    Rbt, this is what

    Gegogi recommends: "mix 5 parts cologne (Burberry

    Weekend) to 1 part NPA in a Sephora atomizer. I mix 5 parts cologne (Burberry Weekend) to 1 part NPA in a Sephora

    atomizer. Works and smells great. I've also had excellent results using chemset androstenol and A-1 as buffers for

    NPA."

    I'm thinking of using a syringe to be able to take accurate measurements when making a mix batch of NPA

    with one of my colognes. By using the syringe to mix a 1:5 phero/cologne ratio, that would come out to 1ml(cc) of

    NPA phero to 5ml(cc) cologne of choice. What do you think about that? And please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Now

    the colognes I have are; Joop Homme, Calvin Klein Euphoria for men, Jean Paul Gaultier, Ralph Lauren Polo, and Aqua

    Velva Musk cologne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DssMaster View Post
    Rbt, this is what Gegogi

    recommends: "mix 5 parts cologne (Burberry Weekend) to 1 part NPA in a Sephora atomizer. I mix 5 parts cologne

    (Burberry Weekend) to 1 part NPA in a Sephora atomizer. Works and smells great. I've also had excellent results

    using chemset androstenol and A-1 as buffers for NPA."

    I'm thinking of using a syringe to be able to take

    accurate measurements when making a mix batch of NPA with one of my colognes. By using the syringe to mix a 1:5

    phero/cologne ratio, that would come out to 1ml(cc) of NPA phero to 5ml(cc) cologne of choice. What do you think

    about that? And please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Now the colognes I have are; Joop Homme, Calvin Klein Euphoria

    for men, Jean Paul Gaultier, Ralph Lauren Polo, and Aqua Velva Musk cologne.
    Yes Gegogi is a Master of Pheromixes and offers top advice.
    It seems you have got the formula and ratios worked out well.
    And it is always good to start out making small batches because then you aint goin to stuff up all

    your supplies if ya make a mistake, or if it does not suit you, or you are not satisfied with the fragrance ect ect.

    Keep a record of each mix so if you hit on a great one we may all benefit from your research. Thank

    you.
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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