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    As far as I know,

    the only difference betweeen None and Rone is, that None contains the element of agression whereas Rone does it not!

    But so why so many products (for eyample AE, Chikara...) contains None AND Rone? This does not make sense to me, as

    None contains (as far I know) all properties of Ron and additional the element of agression! Is there more different

    between this two phero`s than only the element of agression?

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    In my experience, androstenone

    stinks more and is fosters open sexual expression, e.g., women really cut loose if attracted to you. For me,

    straight androsterone hasn't been very sexual but helps impart a respectful and healthy alpha image. For example,

    rone makes it easier to get things done at work. People cheerfully do what you ask and challenge you less. Your

    mileage may vary but they ain't the same by a long shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    In my

    experience, androstenone stinks more and is fosters open sexual expression, e.g., women really cut loose if

    attracted to you. For me, straight androsterone hasn't been very sexual but helps impart a respectful and

    healthy alpha image. For example, rone makes it easier to get things done at work. People cheerfully do what you ask

    and challenge you less
    .
    Your mileage may vary but they ain't the same by a long shot.
    ok, but

    are these not things which contains a none/nol-mix too? has a none/nol/rone -mix more properties than a mixture with

    none and nol only?


    [quote=Human Pheromones]

    Homosexual males have lower ratios of Androsterone to

    Etiocholanone. Thus, androsterone makes the wearer appear to be more masculine and/or dominant, but without the

    aggression of

    androstenone. This

    pheromone also

    creates an aura of safety, protection and reliability normally associated with a more peaceful alpha male.

    Androsterone also provides the respect of

    androstenone

    without the possible negative connotations of the aggressive nature of

    androstenone.
    .[/

    quote]

    Rone seems to be more peacefully than none! But if a product includes both - none and rone - does not

    none (which includes the element of agression) eliminates this part of rone?

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    We naturally produce many

    pheromones, including A-1, rone, one and nol. I see no problem amping up what nature does in a balanced way. I

    don't see a conflict of interest naturally or enhanced. Why be a one note song when you can be a symphony? Besides

    both seem very different in my experience.
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    my guess is that they put

    none and rone in products together, so th rone can give you chat more open appeal, and respect, and the none which

    gives you the respect aswell but with a little bit of agression, thats why alot of younger people have reported

    sexual responses cos none can be sexual aswell!
    LE SAVOIR EST UNE ARME!!

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    My idea is, that the rone

    and none in one product enables you amongst other things to adjust the degree of agression! Both none and rone are

    masculine and dominant! And so if you want to get a product with a little bit agression you take much rone and only

    a little bit none!

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    Me thinks you give the pheromones

    far too much credit. You adjust the degee of aggression and dominance, not the pheromones. I can wear massive

    amounts of NPA or TE and be perceived as gentle and kind. I can also scare the crap outta people under my control

    without a drop of androstenone. Most of your public persona is up to you: how you carry yourself, your words, facial

    expressions, body language and, most of all, your actions. A bucket of androstenone poured on a corpse won't crease

    aggression, dominance or sexuality. It can only amp up what you put into it.
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    Geg you're so right
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    Me thinks

    you give the pheromones far too much credit. You adjust the degee of aggression and dominance, not the pheromones. I

    can wear massive amounts of NPA or TE and be perceived as gentle and kind. I can also scare the crap outta people

    under my control without a drop of androstenone. Most of your public persona is up to you: how you carry yourself,

    your words, facial expressions, body language and, most of all, your actions. A bucket of androstenone poured on a

    corpse won't crease aggression, dominance or sexuality. It can only amp up what you put into it.
    sorry

    but this do not agree with my experiences! Since I have used pheromones the number of flirts, eye-contacts with

    women and even the number of situations in which a foreign women comes to me to talk/flirt with me is at least

    10times higher than former!

    Ok I agree you that action, body-language and many more is important too, but ( in

    my opinion) not so like pheromoes! And futhermore to aquire another body-language or rhetoric-skills is much more

    difficult as to apply pheromones!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    sorry but

    this do not agree with my experiences! Since I have used pheromones the number of flirts, eye-contacts with women

    and even the number of situations in which a foreign women comes to me to talk/flirt with me is at least 10times

    higher than former!
    So, are you in Stuttgart, Stuttgart?

    What mones:mone application do you

    use that causes the lights to turn on for foreign women?

    Foreign = Americans, Italians, French, what?



    Thanks!
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    Stuttgart-man, pheromones are

    great. The cat's meow of accessories. However, once you're in the door no amount of chemicial supplements will

    make up for a lack of substance. In other words, your social status, words and actions need to jive with your

    pheromone signature or you're dead meat. People aren't dumb, and they'll see right through your chemical haze

    once they know you better. So develop your character and improve your station in life and you'll go far. Pheromones

    will help you get started but only you can finish the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    So, are

    you in Stuttgart, Stuttgart?

    What mones:mone application do you use that causes the lights to turn on

    for foreign women?

    Foreign = Americans, Italians, French, what?

    Thanks!
    Hi MobleyC57,



    yes I come from Stuttgart, exactly Esslingen, this is near Stuttgart in the south of Germany!

    The best hits I

    have had with TE and SOE in combination! If I apply it (nonexaggerated) the number of hit (flirts, one night stands

    or only eye-contact) is at least 10 times higher than if I do not apply pheromones!

    With "foreign" I have meant

    women who do not know me! Perhaps it was the wrong word! In the school I have had everytime a 5 in English (1

    is "very good", 6 is "very bad")

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    Yes but the point is still

    also.. Perhaps you get the flirt but if you aren't interesting talking to and havent got anything real to give with

    the way you present yourself the mones will not cary you all the rest of the way..
    If she starts talking to you,

    you need something more than the mones to get to the finish line because else she will just think "I THOUGHT he was

    nice, but he's not" as the start was good but if you haven't got anything more than the mones for the rest of the

    way it's looking bad for you.. Or at least a lot more difficult..
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    Hi

    MobleyC57,

    yes I come from Stuttgart, exactly Esslingen, this is near Stuttgart in the south of Germany!

    The

    best hits I have had with TE and SOE in combination! If I apply it (nonexaggerated) the number of hit (flirts, one

    night stands or only eye-contact) is at least 10 times higher than if I do not apply pheromones!

    With "foreign"

    I have meant women who do not know me! Perhaps it was the wrong word! In the school I have had everytime a 5 in

    English (1 is "very good", 6 is "very bad")
    Cool! How do you apply TE:SOE gels ... TE covered by

    SOE ... SOE covered by TE ... applied to different areas?

    Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    Cool! How

    do you apply TE:SOE gels ... TE covered by SOE ... SOE covered by TE ... applied to different areas?

    Thanks

    again!
    I use the gel packs! 1/6 pack of each! I use the same application-points with SOE and TE! I

    apply 25% on neck, 25% on ears and 50% on the arms! I have never attend to what I apply at first!

    Is there a

    difference what I apply at first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    Is there a

    difference what I apply at first?
    Well, I don't really know, but mostly everyone hear apply's

    TE first, and covers the TE application spots with SOE so that the TE funk does't scare anyone off.

    Still ...

    if the way you apply them is working for you, don't change a thing.
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    ok, but are

    these not things which contains a none/nol-mix too? has a none/nol/rone -mix more properties than a mixture with

    none and nol only?




    Rone seems to be more peacefully than none! But if a product includes both - none

    and rone - does not none (which includes the element of agression) eliminates this part of rone?
    There's

    always a trade-off when we combine pheromones together. IE dienone is a good complement to none because the

    increased comfort it creates can buffer against the overly aggressive nature of none. Conversely, too much

    androstadienone can create an overly soft image, in which case the inclusion of androstenone can add a little

    masculinity to things.

    Androsterone is also known to buffer the aggression/intimidation of androstenone a bit,

    but it should be noted that the effectiveness of androstenone comes from that sense of aggression that it

    creates...the right amount of aggression can be a sexually enticing thing. Often times instead of trying to buffer

    androstenone down so much, its better to simply use less of it.

    That being said androsterone and androstenone are

    two different animals to me. Androstenone projects a raw sense of masculinity....it teeters the line between

    exciting and intimidating. androsterone projects a more sophisticated sense of masculinity...it lacks the firey

    characteristic of androstenone that makes it work the way it does, but it makes a very mature type of

    impression.

    Androstenone:androsterone mixes work well together synergistically not only because of their tendancy

    to buffer each others negatives (so we shouldn't limit ourselves to thinking in those terms), but because the

    positive sides of both pheromones create a much better effect overall: Large presence thats in control, while

    having a bit of a 'wild' side to it.

    All of this reminds me of the old none:rone test mixes KZI had us test a

    while back. Really good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma
    There's

    always a trade-off when we combine pheromones together. IE dienone is a good complement to none because the

    increased comfort it creates can buffer against the overly aggressive nature of none. Conversely, too much

    androstadienone can create an overly soft image, in which case the inclusion of androstenone can add a little

    masculinity to things.
    Which effect has adienone alone without other pheromones? Especially what can I

    expect by women? What is the behavior of women when I apply adienone?

    Thanks!

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    It relaxes them and helps put

    them in a good mood. Great for bitch from hell and PMS problems. Once she's in a good state of mind, it's up to

    you to work your magic.
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