Good stuff! I wonder if the gel
packs will get similar effects for you as I'm new to mones and decided to go with the cheap but yet promising on
paper gel packs of SOE, Chikara and some samples. Thanks for the feedback.
Tried out some
SOE alone today, scented, and i have to say...not bad at all...got some major looks and stares from some hot
women...many friendly looks and smiles...i think i like SOE....its good stuff....totally different vibe than the
primal...the primal has its place, and so does the SOE....i really like the stuff!!!
Good stuff! I wonder if the gel
packs will get similar effects for you as I'm new to mones and decided to go with the cheap but yet promising on
paper gel packs of SOE, Chikara and some samples. Thanks for the feedback.
IOriginally Posted by The GQ
think I read in here earlier that the gel pack is a little weaker than the bottled SOE..
Thanks for the clarification,
guess he'll have to up the volume just a bit then to get similar effects via SOE gel packs.
I would say try the same amount and slowly work up to test..Originally Posted by The GQ
It's a philosophy to do so and as stated in my introOriginally Posted by WorkingMann
post, I'll follow it!
WorkingMann,Originally Posted by WorkingMann
Please
stop posting guesses and bad information.
The bottled version of
SOE is MORE than 5X as concentrated as
the old (.13mg/1.5mL) gels.
...and OVER 6X as concentrated as the new (.08mg/1.0mL)
gels.
In this case, "..a little weaker..." would not be an accurate or adequate response. Those relying
upon it would be applying far too little gel to see good responses.
You seem to be so compelled to get a
reply in on every thread that you don't bother to do the couple of minutes worth of fact-finding that would insure
that you're not posting rubbish.
Between the "Packets" page on the store, the Product Table, and my
calculator it took me about three minutes to gather this information.
Please concentrate on QUALITY posting.
Quantity is irrelevent when your information cannot be relied upon.
READ MORE (starting with the
sticky threads) and please reply only
when you KNOW the answer.
Oscar
Back in the day a lot of old
timers would get out their calculators for everything. Oscar was the best of them, back in the day, as far as any
kind of product information. Whenever I was too "lazy", or confused, I'd ask Oscar for help. He was sure to catch
errors, because he would bust his butt on every post. So I tried to be careful. Seems like there's always an old
timer who knows.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Thank you for the specific
clarification and input Oscar and DrSmellThis!
Oscar
Actually I remembered
it from another tread where it was mentioned and I actually looked for the thread.. But I will try harder the next
time..
WorkingMann,
Maybe what you
had seen was about the TE gels.
They're the only gels that are really close in concentration to their
corresponding bottled product. (.086mg/ml in the gels vs .1mg/mL in the bottle.)
(BTW, it's a little known
secret that the TE gels are actually cheaper
in terms of $$/mg than the bottled stuff at the regular price.)
At any rate, it always helps to check out
your data before posting. For instance, I hadn't known prior to checking the L-S Store page that the men's
SOE gels were now smaller than they used to
be. I already knew from memory that the OLD gels were @5.81 times less concentrated than the bottle, but if I'd
have relied solely on my memory, I'd have been posting half-assed information.
I was looking at the pricing
on those new SOE gels and thinking that Bruce should probably do a bundle of 60 for the same price as the bottled
stuff. That way you'd see a bit more equity in the $$/mg range provided that you were willing to cough up $49.95.
(They're still a decent enough deal in the lesser quantities though.)
I realize that the packaging and handling
of the gels is considerably more costly, but I think that a TOO notable "gel pack premium" in the pricing will
discourage the regular users who used to buy the ($49.95) 38-piece bundles from sticking with the gel format.
The difference in total milligrams was so minimal between the (old) 38-pack and the bottle that it was virtually
negligible, but the way it is now you'd have to get two 30-packs to get close to the 5mg in the bottle, and
they're $27.95 ea.
Do the math.
Oscar
Year I see your point.. My
point mainly was just that they weren't as strong as the bottled (that much I could remeber), but I guess I should
jsut have said they were weaker but I wasn't sure how much.. I'll keep that in mind for the next time..
But
about the TE gels I really don't take that as high because TE in gel will perhaps be a little longer to make the
mones evaporate vs. the alcohol based TE.. And therefor I prefer the real TE..
Over half the cost of the gel
packets is just having them manufactured. Every year we lose a considerable amount on them, and I end up scratching
my head. They are really for promotional purposes. A. To give out as samples to folks totally new to Love Scent
and B. To create an entry level avenue for folks to try out various scented products. Witness the rise and fall of
unscented SOE packets. There is no money to be made on them without raising the price waaaaay up. Pricing them so
that customers would *stop* buying the bottled version (and buy the gel packets instead) would be a very unworkable
idea to say the least.
B
Last edited by Bruce; 02-15-2007 at 03:40 PM.
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
Do I understand you correctly?Originally Posted by Bruce
You loose money on the bottled?
I thought you lost money on
the gel packs..?
I'm a little confused here..
I think what Bruce is saying is
that if he priced the gel packs accordlingly to the bottle the bottle won't be selling. He also pointed out how
little he is making on the packs themselves due to half of the gel pack costs are manufacturing them alone. If he
lowered the gel packs even more and offered an amount similar to the bottle it would halt bottle sales which is a no
no since the bottle seems to be make more money according to my interpretation of Bruce's post. The gel packs are
priced low enough as they are for their purpose I think Bruce is trying to get across.
OhhOriginally Posted by The GQ
then I was right but was just a little unsure..
But I also think it would be fair to have a little minimal price
for the gel packs.
this place is heaven considered to any other phero selling place..
Often you can only buy one
product, that's scented and you have to pay 20-40$ for the bottle so when commin here and payin a little price you
would always prefer it as a starter..
I can remeber for myself.. I payed $25 and $37 for the first two phero
products I tried and I didn't know anything about them except there was mones in.. I didn't know how to use them
and just though well the more the marryer
So I would have gladly payed a few $ for a gelpack..
I
remember the first time I found this heaven.. I LOVED IT! people could tell me something good and things I could
use, and not just it's a sex pheromone..
Plus there's several products to choose from, a forum, newbie info and
help, plus a newbie kit, and unscented products! How lucky can you be with all of this combined in one
place?
This place has everything a newbie wants.. Any other place tells you nothing about the mones or the
products you can use in real life, and almost every product is either scented or when unscented it smells like
really catpiss (worse than NPA or TE) . I remember DateMate a real stinker and I thogh if I used more the results
would be stronger..
And back then I was glad for it, untill I found this place so I think it still would be
reasonable to raise the price..
Anybody who have tried mones from other places would still love this
place..
Overall Bruce.. You're just to good to us and I would never complain considered what alternatives
there's out there..
I've said it before and I say it again.. Your service and everything in here is so great! Thx
Bruce and Tammy..
So would still say just make the price higher..
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
Yeah, like GQ said. I edited my
post just now to make it a little clearer maybe.
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
Year but would still say you
could charge a little bit for the gelpacks.. It's good advertising with the free ones but other possibilitys are
still much much more expensive so I guess people would understand that you need a little of the loss covered and I
still think they would buy it considering the alternatives..
But again you call..
BTW bruce.. Talked to the
AE-people about the AE coverscent?
I recieved you email some time ago but haven't heard anything new about how it
turned out?
You haven't talked to them yet or it just didn't work out?
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
We are still working out the
details. It takes time. Even after an agreement is reached, they need a new label; stuff like that. Whip up a
batch; ship it etc etc. Takes a while.
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
Year I know.. I was just curious since I haven'tOriginally Posted by Bruce
heard anything.. Still looking forward to it comming in the shop
WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!
yeah, SoE givesOriginally Posted by Spiderweb
great smile/touch results, getting compliments out of nowhere like
"you're such a great guy...mmmm"
and
from a waitress:
"wow, you are soo calm and cool, just wanted to say it's been a pleasure just watching you,
you're totally unlike anyone else here"
but no sexual hits yet... while PI hasn't gotten me any compliments
(apart from during you know what), it has always resulted in a steady flow of... well you know what
have you
had the same type of experience/results Spiderweb... or anything sexual from SoE only?
i use soe unscented and saw
somewhere on the forum that the best is 6 to 8 inches. I ahve no idea how the mesure that...would be very helpful if
someone can tell me for how many applications is the soe bottle good for (roughly)
another questions and maybe
kohl is the best to asnwer it...i know its hard to OD on soe but incase someone deos what would be the effects of
the OD....
I understand this but the thing is the packets are very
portable and convenient where as the bottles are not, unless your a girl and you have a huge purse. Many atomizers
are big too. This is also in case you want to put the gel on at a later time, not right before you go out, and can
do so later.
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