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    Default contains PM Androstadienone?

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    Hallo,
    The product-table of lovescent states that Pheromax/man contains 3mg None and 2mg Nol! But I have ordered

    PM/man two years ago with a internet-shop in Germany. And there is mentioned that PM/man has a new formula with 2mg

    Androstadienone, 1.8mg None and 1.2mg Nol!
    Is there a american and a german version or is the product-table on

    love-scent not updated?

    onother question: Why so few products contains Androstadienone? is there a bad

    interaction in mix to other pheros? I have read (I don`t know where) that None is influenced by other pheromones! So

    perhaps Androstadienone weakens the action of other pheromones and so the manufatorers avoid to include

    Androstadienone?
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    Androstadienone is patented by

    erox for use in fragranced products. It can be used in an unfragranced product, or as a part of a chemset, however.

    I suspect that most products with hidden ingredients are in fact using androstadienone.

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    No biggie as you can easily buy

    chemset androstadienone and add to taste. Works wonders around grumpy and PM women.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma
    Androstadienone is patented by erox for use in fragranced products. It can be used in an unfragranced

    product, or as a part of a chemset, however. I suspect that most products with hidden ingredients are in fact using

    androstadienone.
    Do you think that TE or NPA contains Androstadienone, because they have a secret

    incredient?

    Do you have experience with PM? I have used it two years ago, but I have seen no reactions by other

    people! Nowaday I suspect, that already one spray of PM makes an OD!
    The PM-bottle contains 14ml Liquid and 2mg

    Androstadienone, 1.8mg AndrostenONE and 1.2mg AndrostenOL! One spray has average an amount of about 0.1ml and so one

    spray contains approx. 14mcg Androstenone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    Do you think

    that TE or NPA contains Androstadienone, because they have a secret incredient?

    Do you have experience with PM?

    I have used it two years ago, but I have seen no reactions by other people! Nowaday I suspect, that already one

    spray of PM makes an OD!
    The PM-bottle contains 14ml Liquid and 2mg Androstadienone, 1.8mg AndrostenONE and 1.2mg

    AndrostenOL! One spray has average an amount of about 0.1ml and so one spray contains approx. 14mcg

    Androstenone!
    The patent on dienone is limited to fragraced products, so I'm not sure if TE and

    NPA have dienone in it, but it is a possibility. There isn't anything in NPA or TE that feels like dienone, but

    thats purely speculation on my part. But if a fragranced product (ie chikara, etc etc) contains dienone,

    then I can see why they would keep the ingredients secret...among other reasons.

    dienone is a very good

    counter-point to androstenone though. Androstenone projects a strong physical prowess and aggreession, dienone

    projects comfort, and an uplifted mood. They do seem to cancel each other out to some extent, but they work very

    well together.

    I haven't tried PM, however 14mcg of androstenone per spray is quite excessive for most people.

    PI contains about 20mcg of none per drop, and most people OD off that pretty easily. Thats also a pretty heavy dose

    of dienone. Given the male-depression that can come coupled with dienone, its something thats best used in lower

    concentrations, with more control over the dosing. I have to use relatively small doses of it.

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    Default Can Androstadienone leads to depression in men?

    I have searched about reports about Androstadienone on the web and one article had said that

    Andostadienone can cause to depression in men! Can that be true? I ever thought that this phero enhance the positive

    moods!?

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    It doesn't make sense to

    me.. I'm no scientist or know anythiong about it..
    But when A-1 is helping on PMS it would be odd if it causes

    depression in men..
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    It doesn't

    make sense to me.. I'm no scientist or know anythiong about it..
    But when A-1 is helping on PMS it would be odd if

    it causes depression in men..
    It isn't too complicated really. Men and women are physiologically

    different, and react differently to pheromones. ie men are sexually enticed by copulins, while women are not.



    Funny thing is, androstadienone is the most common pheromone found on male skin. But when we wear synthetic

    pheromones, we're exposing ourselves and the people around us to unnaturally high amounts. At these levels, they

    may produce effects and side-effects that are very different from the natural properties of a said pheromone.

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    Year okay that makes sense

    but again.. Wouldn't prosume A-1 makes those results..
    I would have though people in here would have told about it

    if that was the case..
    WorkingMann - you've been there, done that!

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