A HIT!! Well...maybe not...sort of.
A hit! (Or was it ACTUALLY a hit?)
Ok, as the story goes…
Two days ago I was at work, didn’t
have any plans for the weekend yet. My friend Hiroshi shows up with this girl that I had never met. As soon as I saw
her, I thought to myself “Damn, wow she’s hot!” We exchange greetings and I go on to ask Hiroshi what he has planned
for that evening. He tells me that they were waiting for one other girl, and then were going to go out to eat, and I
could join them if I’d like. I decided to go, and that made four of us, two guys and two girls. During the evening,
Hiroshi brings up the topic about me liking cars. He further mentions that I have this steering wheel for my PS2
that I play racing games with. The Japanese girl (who is sooo hot) gets all giddy giddy, and starts going on about
how that is so cool and she wants to play. Hiroshi took the other girl to the station so that left the cute girl and
I alone. While he’s away, she’s quick to start talking to me more about cars. Long story short, the three of us end
up back at my place playing that game before she has to catch her train. When we take her to the station, I tell her
that Hiroshi has my number in case she wants to get together again. She tells me that she works tomorrow (which was
yesterday; and her job is really close to my place) which I took as a hint that she wants me to come visit her at
work.
I went to visit her at work yesterday with a hint of Chikara.
When she wasn’t busy, we talked about if she had plans that night. We decided to meet at six. I told her I’d wait
for her on the first floor by the escalator. After she got off work, I was downstairs checking my e-mail on my cell
phone and she comes running down the escalator, yells “John!” and waves her hand. Immediately she starts touching me
on the arm, and when we are leaving, it feels like she wants to wrap her arm around mine. We walk close on the way
back to my place, and the plan was that I would show her some pictures from the Tokyo Auto Salon 2007, and then we
would go visit my friend (who is in the car business). She keeps telling me that she doesn’t know about cars but
wants to learn because she thinks they are so cool after watching “Wild Speed” (The Japanese title for Fast and
Furious). We go to my friends company, talk with him and some other friends I have there for 30/45 minutes and
return back to my place. As we head back to my place, she’s going on about how it was so cool, and I am too… We end
up back at my place, and she tells me that her mother will pick her up at 8:30. We watch a little bit of TV on my
couch and she looks through my cd folder. 8:30 comes around and we walk to the spot where she will meet her mother.
She tells me that she has a bit of a cold, and I turn to her, pull her hood over her head and zip up her jacket. She
stands there and lets me. At the time, she looked like a cute little Eskimo… lol We start to talk about
relationship, and if she likes anyone and she asks if I like anyone. She further mentions that she thinks it would
be a good thing if I had a girl to take with me to different car events and to talk more about cars with. Basically,
someone with the same hobby as mine. While we were waiting, I often look over to this cute little Eskimo and think
about how pretty she is/how much fun I have with her/how great the evening was. I felt like I could have kissed her
right then and there. I felt like she would have let me kiss her; but there was something that was holding me back.
(Keep reading)
Throughout the evening, I was really surprised how
comfortable she is around me. I was also surprised at how comfortable I am around her. We will definitely go out
again…but there’s still a problem. I’m 25 and this girl is only 17. (I know, sometimes it feels like I’m robbing
from the cradle) I talked to my friend (in the car business, who we visited that night) and asked him what he
thought about it. He told me it’s very common in Japan… that younger girls often go out with older guys. But she’s
ONLY 17; not legal age yet. Not saying we’re going to do anything, but we’re really comfortable together, so it
seems like we may only get closer. There’s another problem too. I’m going to be moving to Tokyo in April, so MAYBE
the relationship will be short-lived (But Sawara is only about 2 1/2 hours from Tokyo, so we can still meet). I do
have the opportunity to stay where I’m at, but it seems like over the last couple of months, I’ve wanted to be in
Tokyo (because it’s easier to meet women and there’s a lot more to do) and it would be kind of silly to stay where
I’m at because of a girl. Now I’m starting to have second thoughts about moving. Not only about her, but because of
the friends that I have here. (But I can make friends anywhere…)
Maybe Bruce can help me out with the age thing since he’s lived in Japan and is married to a Japanese
girl. Any ideas anyone?
BTW, I don’t think it happened because of
the Chikara, but I guess that helped too… J
That's quite definitely a hit
- although I wouldn't say that this was much of a -mone effect.
I don't know how this is handled in Japan - but
my first girlfriend was 17, too (I was 21 at this time - a late starter I am) and my next, well, almost girlfriend
after her was only 16.
Best of luck,
bb
I wouldn't see the age as a
problem.. Where I live girls have "their first time" when they're 13-15, and the legal age for sex is 16. We call
it pants-legal.. It's legal to get into her pants..
And often girls that's 18 are with guys that's 30 or
more..
So I wouldn't say it would be a problem.. And as you say.. It's socially acceptable to do it so go for
it..
BTW. asians (chinese and japanese) are really hot!
Hey guess what! I pulled another number tonight! Ha-ha
Ahh, the
benefits of being in a foreign country…
Once again, I was wearing a hint of Chikara, so I don’t know if that had something to do with it;
or if it’s just because I’m a foreigner.
In other words, I guess I’ve got nothing to worry about eh?
I’m not sure what’s
going to happen with the 17 year old, but it’s always good to keep your options open right ? (Now my only problem
is staying out of the “friend zone” unless I’m sure that’s where I want to be…)
John
Keeping your options open will usually keep you out of the friends zoneOriginally Posted by Epyon3359
because you end up unintentionally playing hard to get.
Congrats on the hit! I would say it was a hit if this is
not normal for you, otherwise congrats on being you. LOL
hey a few words of advice since
i'm in tokyo...
i love how you sayi should let you know that we hereI’ve wanted to be in Tokyo (because
it’s easier to meet women and there’s a lot more to do)
in tokyo are very envious of your position outside of the city!
i'll tell you why... it is true that there are
more girls in tokyo and the girls in tokyo are going to look much hotter than the ones outside of the city. however,
girls who live outside of the city tend to be more open and receptive to talking to strangers or meeting new people.
here in tokyo, the girls are very cold because it is a large city and also because many of these girls get
approached by many guys everyday. i've lived in a few cities back in the US, and i'd say tokyo is comparable with
NYC in terms of how open girls are.... which is not very open at all, lol. anyway, this is not to say it's
impossible. it just means you need really good game.
anyway, when i'm with my wings here in tokyo, we often
talk about taking trips out to the "countryside" (like where you live) because the girls there will be more
receptive and our game will seem stronger because we'll have less competition.
also, i assume you're a white
foreigner. since you're in the countryside, you still probably experience some of that "gaijin" effect. basically
people will look at you or talk to you because you're a foreigner and that makes you different. hell, there are
probably girls who would trip all over themselves to get a gaijin bf in the countryside.
on the other hand, in
tokyo, nobody will give you a second look. in fact nobody really cares about gaijin because there are waaay too many
of them here. as a white gaijin myself, i've definitely felt a shift when i'm outside of the city and when i'm
inside. when i'm inside, nobody thinks i'm special and nobody really pays attention to me. when i'm outside,
random people will say "hello!" to me and the girls will give me second looks. this is the reason why my wings and i
are planning on taking a trip out to the countryside sometime now that our game is pretty good.
think of it this
way: if you didn't have good game in your home country, don't expect things to be any different in tokyo just
because you're a foreigner. i've seen plenty of foreigners here thinking they're going to pick up easy japanese
girls just because they are foreigners and they've gotten absolutely nothing. roppongi is a sad sight every weekend
lol. 5 or 10 years ago, it was a different story. foreigners got laid easily. times seem to have changed though and
there is definitely a significant increase in foreigners these days. the point is, you'll be competing with all of
them so if your game isn't up to par already, i'd definitely work on it *before* coming to tokyo.
oh, and
enjoy your time in the countryside with the friendly girls while you still can if you do decide to move to tokyo
feel free to message me if you have any questions or anything.
yeah, forgot to talk about this...
don't worry about it at
all. in japan, it's not really considered that strange for a high school girl to go out with a guy much older than
her.
as a real example, one of the girls i'm seeing now is a high school girl and her friend (17) was going out
with a guy who was 24. in america, i think people would definitely comment about this or at the very least, it would
seem somewhat abnormal. for the girl i was seeing and her friends though, it wasn't even an issue. it was seen as
normal and not even comment worthy.
also, i've definitely met couples here in japan and seen couples on tv
where the wives are sometimes 10 years younger than the husbands. so, i wouldn't worry about the age thing.
Lagrimas,
Thanks for your reply; it is very helpful.
There are a few things that I want to mention.
however, girls who
live outside of the city tend to be more open and receptive to talking to strangers or meeting new
people.
Well,
I’d have to disagree with you a little on that one. You’re right that girls in the countryside don’t see foreigners
as often, but they are also more conservative, so unless you’ve got really good game, good luck. The opportunity
just isn’t there (in the countryside).
That’s not to say
that ALL of the countryside is bad, in fact, some of the countryside may actually be good. Nevertheless, where I am
now, it’s not very convenient. For example, it takes me close to three hours just to get to Shibuya!So
that’s about 2000 yen one-way, plus the cost of drinks and an entrance fee. Therefore, spending one night in Tokyo
adds up pretty quick. Also, there aren’t any clubs where I’m living, so it’s really not anything special. The
closest club is about 40 minutes away and it closes at three, so that leaves me about two hours to do nothing and
wait for the next train at around 5:30.
About improving
my game, David DeAngelo says it himself on Page 126 of the Double your dating e-book, “Big
cities almost ALWAYS have many more beautiful women than small ones, so if you’re in a small town and you think your
location is holding you back, remember… it’s not going to get any better.
Consider moving to a bigger city. In cities like New York, L.A., and
Chicago, the opportunities to meet women are literally endless. Most suburbs of big cities aren’t half-bad
either.”
I’d like to have the have the
opportunity to put myself out there, and actually work on improving my game, and well, I think living in or around
Tokyo would make it a lot easier to practice. Even if I strike out, there are always more fish
in the sea.
as a white gaijin myself, i've definitely felt a shift when i'm
outside of the city and when i'm inside. when i'm inside, nobody thinks i'm special and nobody really pays
attention to me. when i'm outside, random people will say "hello!" to me and the girls will give me second
looks.
It’s
funny that you mention that… for me, it seems the opposite. Every time I go to Tokyo or Yokohama, it seems like I
receive more attention from the ladies. Like out here, I don’t even exist.
Instead of Tokyo, I may be moving to Saitama, but a lot closer to Tokyo
(within about 30 minutes by train). (Long story short, two companies want me. One is in Tokyo, and one is in
Saitama.) So either way I go, I think it’ll be a good move.
Thanks again for you post. I know
it’s going to be hard in Tokyo, but none-the-less, I feel like it’ll be better than where I currently
am.
Well that could
also be a good thing.. Because then there's more private parties and there it's easyer to pick up girls as they
aren't goin there just to get free drinks and dance..
But there's advantages in
everything..
Year
that's ALSO an advantage but again.. They're more beautifull but harder to get because there's more people to hit
on them so your game has to be much better than in the countryside.. So there's advantages and
disadvantages..
You can practice anywhere.. In a big city it perhaps just would take
longer to see results (because your game has to be that much better) but than again it will most likely also work in
the countryside..
But I would work on my game and enjoy the advantages of the countryside a while and improve your
game there and when you're good there then move on to the city perhaps..
But nomatter what you choose then the best of luck to you..
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