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    Quote Originally Posted by goodguy
    Okay I put on

    three dabs of yellow cap on today with two sprays of Armani Mania. The results were actually negative at first (just

    like the car ride). It actually made my coworker who was in her usual high spirits have a short fuse. But the odd

    thing is- just like before, about 4-5 hours later she perks up considerably all of a sudden (enough so to have a

    very long fuse with someone we both have no patience for). I also got a delayed reaction last time where all the

    good stuff happened but I paid no mind because I wouldn't think a mone would take so long to "become active".

    Towards the end of our day, she was feeling hot even though it was freezing and she couldn't help giggle of

    everything I had to say. I didn't think about attributing this to the mones as i had applied them about 7 hours

    earlier.
    Amazing enough I've also seen mones kick in this long after.. It's unbelivable I know but it

    must have been them.. It was one of my first real tryout where they did something major..
    It was at a bbc thing

    with some friends.. 6 hours after application we went into a club and after some time with 2 girls they started

    working their magic.. I couldn't believe it either but she results I got must have been mones..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodguy

    I also

    got a delayed reaction last time where all the positive reponses happened but I paid no mind because I wouldn't

    think a mone would take so long to "become active". Towards the end of our day, she was feeling hot even though it

    was freezing and she couldn't help giggle of everything I had to say. I didn't think about attributing this to the

    mones as i had applied them about 7 hours earlier.
    May I offer a suggestion. Try cutting your dose

    in half. My gut feeling from your report is either you are OD'ing at first and as they where off you hit the sweet

    spot. The other possible option is a conversion of the substance you are wearing in to another mone.

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    It is

    possible that this stuff is so strong that I OD on it. I usually can't OD very easily. I've put on five drops of

    P10 without any problems in the past. The conversion could be something too.

    All I know is that so far I don't

    see hits until 2-3 hours later. I actually tried to OD with four dabs today just to see. I didn't get any negative

    reactions at first like the first two times. At lunch (about 4 hours later) I got the same good hits on two asian

    girls that I work with. One of them being the same one as yesterday. A lot of chatter, giggling, and teasing They

    also got hot and turned on the freaking AC when it was already cold. I think this stuff affects Asian girls more

    than anything other race, which is very nice.

    I think I'll try one dab tomorrow and see how it goes.

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    May I suggest that each of our reports begin (as above) with the color

    of cap on the vial being discussed?


    Not much noticeable yesterday (Tuesday) during the day,

    I put one dab on spread along the jaw & mouth area about 07:15.


    At a meeting of six men

    about 13 hours later I was definitely accorded respect. I was clearly in charge more than would normally be

    expected, even though it was me that had called the meeting. My suggestions were immediately adopted with virtually

    no discussion, and there was clear deference to me personally. There was no animosity from the others, or among

    them, in fact it seemed that there was considerable mutual accord, and camaraderie among the group.




    Just put another dab on now (about 07:20 Wednesday)

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    Blue cap

    I tried one dab last

    night,and some
    women friends were not very talkative
    as they usualy are. I can't gauge it by
    this one

    situation, I have to try it some more before making any judgements. I'll keep testing.

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    Yellow

    Tried only one

    dab to see if I was ODing before. I didn't notice anything wearing just a drop, not even hours later.

    I think

    this stuff works (especially on the asian girls). I always got the I'm feeling hot, giggles, and more attention

    than I usually get.

    I have just enough to wear a little over one dab. Hopefully that will be enough to get the

    same reactions I've gotten the last few times I've worn it.
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    Nothing really noticeable yesterday w/ one dab,

    however this morning (about 23 hours after application) one of the other real early employees came into my office,

    and just wanted to talk, and talk (30 minutes) about any old thing. This is quite outside the norm of behavior for

    him. It was actually getting wearisome for me, as the topic was getting repeated to keep noise in the air. We’ve

    both been in early for years, and most of the time we exchange a few greetings, and head off to our separate areas.

    Once in awhile we will talk a few minutes about something that is related to work. This time he came down to my area

    to talk (quite unlike him) as prior to this I’ve been the one to go to his office to ask him

    something.


    Just applied another dab along jaw, and around mouth (07:05

    AM).

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodguy
    Yellow



    Tried only one dab to see if I was ODing before. I didn't notice anything wearing just a drop, not even hours

    later.

    I think this stuff works (especially on the asian girls). I always got the I'm feeling hot, giggles,

    and more attention than I usually get.

    I have just enough to wear a little over one dab. Hopefully that will be

    enough to get the same reactions I've gotten the last few times I've worn it.
    Thanks for testing the

    theory, I appreciate it. I am still confused of why you had the results that you did, to me it doesn't make

    logical sense but then again you don't have enough of the product to test in the traditional way.

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    BLUE

    I’m not sure whether this is a very long delay

    effect mone (OD wearing down to effective level, or some transition to another pheromone taking place, or what) but

    there seems to be a very long term, and very lasting effect with this mone. But I wouldn’t discount it having an

    immediate positive effect either.


    Yesterday afternoon my boss’s boss

    wandered into my office, looked at me, and then wandered out, but had no particular thing to say. I had made the one

    dab application in the morning near 07:00


    This morning w/out any

    further application in the mean time, he wandered into my office, and told me a bit of the obnoxious nature of his

    impending meetings for the day, and then wandered out. This does seem a little unusual.




    The nasty-hot tempered Latino woman that works in my office seems to be a little bit more

    solicitous towards me than before.


    Also, last evening I had arranged a

    meeting with an old friend that just seemed to go a whole lot more friendly, and personal than I thought to

    expect


    Not all of this should necessarily be attributed to the new

    pheromone, as I’ve been using AQ, and SoE with very satisfactory results for quite sometime, and I’ve noted that

    extended use of AQ has clearly contributed to a long term change in my “normal” phero

    signature.


    The next observation I’m going to put into the original

    Alpha-tests thread, as I didn’t apply any more Blue-cap today, but did put on some of the original Alpha-101 (white

    cap) latter in the afternoon.

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    Okay my yellow cap is

    done. I'd have to give my thumbs up for this. I was going to write my experiences yesterday with two dabs, but I

    was tired. The test was consistent with my earlier experiences with the delayed hits- giggles and teasing (no I'm

    feeling hot this time though).

    Marlboro_man,
    I think I should have used a dropper instead of dabs. The problems

    with my dabs is that they might not have been as consistent (especially early in the morning when I'm still half

    asleep). I think my magic number would have been 1.5 dabs.

    My final test just for fun:
    I had only a little left

    (probably less than a dabs worth). I put in 10 drops of NPA, 5 drops P10, 5 drops of A1, 5 drops of A314 (from the

    very first batch), AQ as cover(applied after not mixed in like the rest). I've tried this combo before (without the

    yellow cap of course), and I've never gotten the results I got today. I wore four dabs of this combo and covered up

    with four "drops" AQ (scented- first batch).

    I sat in the lunch room with all these women (mostly asian) and

    they were talking about Ana Nicole Smith and what not. I was sat down two feet away from them. This is about four

    hours after application. They stopped talking as the topic died down. Then they started talking about sex, and toys,

    and all that with me right next to them. They kept looking over to see my reactions and I just smiled, laughed a

    little and they started a little tease saying, "you must not like being the only guy here all the time." Then the

    giggles.

    The odd thing is that they've always whispered whenever they started talking about anything that they

    think might offend me- I have no idea why I give this vibe that I'm conservative when I'm not.

    The whole time

    they were talking (it was pretty hardcore talk) they kept looking at me to gauge my reactions. Even started to ask

    me my opnions on rings (not the one you where around your finger either). Very amusing and totally out of the

    ordinary. No full moon, so I'm giving credit to the mones. Like I wrote before, I've worn this combo around the

    same women and never got this reaction before.

    My conclusion:
    Overall I think I got more teasing from women

    than anything else with this product. This is all good if you know how to work it and give back as much as you

    recieve. I definitely think it opens them up more. I also think that this product has given me more hits with Asian

    women than any other product I've tried. Not that it doesn't work with other races- I see the same results. I just

    find that Asian women don't respond much to anything other than WAGG or SOE (even then not like what I've gotten

    from yellow).

    Don't mind the spelling, as I'm about to crash.
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    Goodguy: Nice experience..

    And you think it was because of the little leftovers there were from the PI/m with yellow cap together with the

    previusly used mix?

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    Default amped up- yellow cap

    Yes,

    WorkingMann, I've tried this combo before to see where my OD levels were (did not OD on it by the way). I never got

    this kind of reaction from it. The amount left in the container was still significant enough to be a part of my

    combo as the total mix is only about 2mL. I'm wearing it again today, when I run errands.

    I do believe yellow

    amped up my combo. What exactly it amped up, I'm not sure, as I didn't have enough to test with for each

    individual yellow cap/other individual product combos. I would have liked to have tested it with SOE or a pure none

    product like Primal Instinct.

    Hopefully this stuff goes to market and I can play with it some more.

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    Blue cap

    Hey guys! Got some

    good results today. One dab covered with polo double black. Women friends were very talkative and playfull. Just

    made for fun conversations. One dab left, might try mixing with and soe next time.

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    Vial w/ totally red screw off cap arrived in Friday

    mail


    The smell is not as strong as Blue (which is much more pungent

    than even eNone), and yet noticeable (unlike yellow, which seems to be just alcohol). I’ll get all three together to

    make a side by side comparison later.


    Put one dab of Red on along the

    jaw line, and around mouth before going to a gun show Saturday morning. Met a late 50’s male friend there. He seemed

    to keep wandering off, and away from me, but eventually coming back. We’ve known each other for more than 10 years,

    and he’s never shown this avoidance behavior before.


    No noticeable

    reactions from other friends that I met at the show.


    No noticeable

    reactions from two other late 50’s males, and late 50’s females later that evening at dinner.




    Put no additional mones on Sunday morning. About 9:15 AM (after about 10 minutes of sitting

    beside me), one young woman (about 20) sitting about 3 feet from me began jacking her legs quite consistently, and

    then switching knees, and doing so with the other leg. This continued off and on (more on than off – including

    switching of legs) for the entire remaining period of time I sat near her. She even included some elevation motions

    using the lower leg to push up against the upper that I’ve never observed before.




    About an hour and a half later (again after 10 to 15 minutes of sitting still), another young

    woman (mid to late 20’s) seated about 15 feet away started swinging her legs, but not as long, nor as strongly as

    the first.


    No other noticed reactions for rest of day.

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    Red

    I just got it in the

    mail and gave it the sniff test. I dont smell much more than the alcohol. I am not sure if i smell anything once it

    is on my skin.

    From my personal reaction it seems to be a really weak SOE reaction.
    24 year old, good looking, white guy SOE+NPA works like a charm
    Chikara no results nice scent
    Pherlure cant wear it; strong scent headache
    AA314 good stuff
    NPA girls get frisky, stinks
    A7 almost as good as NPA
    SOE legit

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    beta-androstadienol (beta-ol-A1)

    with regards to
    http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/sh...8&postcount=12

    -

    Among the vomeropherins, F(beta-ol-A1) produced the most significant differences within the group (females). Here, A

    induced a small effect that was significantly different from E(alpha-ol-A1).

    E, a stereoisomer of

    F(beta-ol-A1), does not stimulate the VNO in female subjects while F(beta-ol-A1) does. This is a demonstration of

    the specificity of VNO recognition of vomeropherins. In this regard it is interesting to note that while

    F(beta-ol-A1) is a superior vomeropherin, E(alpha-ol-A1) generates a stronger olfactory effect than does

    F(beta-ol-A1).
    So beta-ol-A1 has better VNO activity but alpha-ol-A1 has a more pronounced smell?

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    I wonder why all the research

    seems focused on VNO response. I think it would make more sense to measure the response of a chemical more than the

    perception of a chemical compound. Not many researchers are interested in measuring changes in testosterone,

    oxytocin, estrogen and cortisol. I think this would make more sense in discovering new pheromones. Measure the

    reaction not the perception.
    24 year old, good looking, white guy SOE+NPA works like a charm
    Chikara no results nice scent
    Pherlure cant wear it; strong scent headache
    AA314 good stuff
    NPA girls get frisky, stinks
    A7 almost as good as NPA
    SOE legit

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    Quote Originally Posted by luxveritas
    I wonder

    why all the research seems focused on VNO response. I think it would make more sense to measure the response of a

    chemical more than the perception of a chemical compound. Not many researchers are interested in measuring changes

    in testosterone, oxytocin, estrogen and cortisol. I think this would make more sense in discovering new pheromones.

    Measure the reaction not the perception.
    I agree..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    I

    agree..
    hey hold up, what does
    (beta-ol-A1) produced the most significant differences

    within the group (females)
    mean? They also did EEGs which seem to be a better-effect based measure of the

    activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icehawk
    hey hold up,

    what does mean? They also did EEGs which seem to be a better-effect based measure of the activity.
    Arent

    those results based on VNO?
    I mean VNO differences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    Arent those

    results based on VNO?
    I mean VNO differences?
    In this case sorta. There was a round of tests with

    oflactory, EEG and bodily response.
    In 30 female subjects, B(A-1) and F(beta-ol-A1) evoked a significant

    increase in skin temperature compared to A and C(Est).
    In females, B(A-1) or F(beta-ol-A1) applied to the VNO

    increased alpha cortical independent of the response of olfactory receptors.
    i.e. The females got 'hot'

    and the EEG registered cortical alpha modulation... whatever that means.

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    Hello All! i am new to

    the "love-scent" scene... so i am trying to private message bruce in regards to getting on the "list" to receive

    test "mones".. is there a charge? which is fine. sorry for the noob question.. i'm just trying to get mine and

    post about the results aswell..i am very interested on this topic.. i purchased "phelure" but alass. no results..

    i then reviewed the product on these forums... damm i wish i woulda stumbled on this site before i bought the

    damm product.. o well.. lesson learned... anyway.. any help would be great! . thanx again!

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    Generally when there is a test

    coming up it is posted here in the forum and people are invited to participate. Some of the tests are free and

    others, beta tests, require that you purchase the product. Tests have been sporadic but lately they have been much

    more common than in the past. Keep an eye on the forum and you will get your chance.
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    Aren't the tests meant to

    be tested by more "skillfulled" mone-users?
    I mean they know what to look for and what kind of reactions that is

    what..

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    Cool.. Thanx Belgareth...

    I look forward to being part of these tests in the future... i'll be looking for the next "buy-in"

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    working man...
    yeah,

    ur prolly right... but u started somewhere right? i guess i gotta crawl before i walk... just asking for a

    chance.. thats all. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEEL-RESERVE
    working

    man...
    yeah, ur prolly right... but u started somewhere right? i guess i gotta crawl before i walk... just

    asking for a chance.. thats all. :P
    Year it's also worth a shoot right
    But I don't know but I

    would guess that, when given to the experienced testers they can give better testresults as they perhaps better know

    what to look for etc.. But you can still try..
    You got no mones or just wanna test some new also...?

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    Nah All I have is

    Phelure... I dont really think it works.. although lately this chick has been telling me that I smell Good like

    every day.. But besides that... nothing.. Just wondering which one would be a good noob start off mone?? any

    advice? thanx again in advance..

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    and how the heck do u PM

    someone on this site?!

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    We had to shut off the PM system

    because of commercial spammers.
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