I hope not but my only concern was testing the new product while sacrificing theOriginally Posted by Archetypical Hybrid
(HEC)
tried and true.
AQ was engineered to be used as a standalone product: to be honest I don't think that you need
Thanks, HEC!
That makes me feel better about testing it without
mixing!
to mix in anything else to get the effect that AQ will provide by itself - it contains 7 different pheromones at a
whopping 24mg total for a reason.
Adding anything else to this complex cocktail may be overkill &
counter-productive..
I hope not but my only concern was testing the new product while sacrificing theOriginally Posted by Archetypical Hybrid
(HEC)
tried and true.
The first test for the
unscented was pretty impressive.
Normally I wear scents and mones on my forearms but the weather here has been
pretty cold and I've been wearing a jacket the past few days. I applied two drops of to my neck and covered
it with equal parts aloeswood and musk oils, a scent I wear a lot.
Went to my business lunch and everybody
wanted to talk to me! Most the time you drift around these things and chat a few minutes here and there. Yesterday I
couldn't get rid of some people. That's unusual but may or may not have been the mones. No proof.
After
working out and showering in the late afternoon I reapplied as I usually do and applied the same scent again. My
wife, for the first time in ages commented on the scent. She kept nuzzling my neck and telling me how good it
smelled and asking me how I changed the scent, something new? She knows I wear mones but I didn't mention the AQ.
All evening she was cuddly/amorous and almost submissive. The submissive part is unusual for her, she's pretty
willful most of the time.
I'd say that as a first day wearing it the results seemed good but inconclusive. Will
know more about it later.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Wow now I
can't wait to recieve mu unscented AQ.. Yesterday I made my order as I wanted some stuff also when they ship the
unscented AQ..
Wee.. But I will have to wait a week or more but that's okay.. I'm just exited and looking forward
to getting my order and get out testing and seeing the results..
WOW.. A mone that smells sweet.. How nice..! We're so used to mones thatOriginally Posted by Archetypical Hybrid
(HEC)
stink much or less but nomatter what they stink..
So that's great news plus the ladies like the sweet scents so
that's jsut awsome..!
WOW..
A mone that smells sweet.. How nice..! We're so used to mones that stink much or less but nomatter what they
stink..
So that's great news plus the ladies like the sweet scents so that's jsut awsome..!
Most of the androstenol on the market is garbage and hence doesn't smell very attractive: we used only the
highest quality androstenol in AQ, and so that's why it smells so sweet!
You amped up one
pheromone, that you hints to us as being -none. I have to say that I'm personally rather dissapointed about that
news. That is if we're only talking in very small doses to begin with, then it'd be ok, but if this is now a
product with significant -none content it will be less attractive to mix since you keep up with your secrecy
business. I hope that you realize the fact that most people here want to mix and combine.
Also it would mean that
applications for business purposes you have to cut down on the dosages to avoid the -none and getting poorer results
from the other good stuff in the potion. In this case it will be better to use another product from one of your
competitors instead.
Please consider this and keep the -none at a low level, thank you!
Hmm, I just had a similar experience with the 24mg update. It seems to behaveBel writes, "Went to my
business lunch and everybody wanted to talk to me! Most the time you drift around these things and chat a few
minutes here and there. Yesterday I couldn't get rid of some people. That's unusual but may or may not have been
the mones. No proof."
more like a heavy 'nol product than none. A hoe lotta talking. I had a difficult time getting away and heard far
more about nothing than I wanted...
I could detect none of the typical androstenone reactions nor the obvious
funk in the product. But only been out the door once so nothing conclusive.
I can't describe the scent as
"sweet." It's slightly musky (sorta like unscented SOE) with a faint note of bug spray. No matter as it covers much
easier than NPA or TE.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
No, as a matter of fact, AQ contains very, very littlePlease
consider this and keep the -none at a low level,
-none.. also the -none is buffered by the -stanone (AQ contains more -stanone than -none)..
-stanone behaves
more like -nol then anything else..
BTW: we're offering androstanol (-stanol) for alpha-test very soon.. It
seems to be much better than -stanone.
I wish I didn't have class
and had more time to come on here! Did I miss who got the free bottles?
Are there anymore of this superbeta AQ
available for purchase?? AQ is the only mone product that I get continuous results!
IOriginally Posted by gfunk
don't know what it is but am certain it is not -none. If it were I would have ODed on it.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
You're from Waimanalo??Originally Posted by Gegogi
OT: I lived in Hawai'i Kai and went to Kaiser HS for a year.
You are probablyOriginally Posted by Gegogi
right, but that is just a guess. Whatever it is, it works.
You can use -none where I can't. I'm curious to see
how it works on women for you.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Again, AQ was engineered to be used as a standalone product. There isit will
be less attractive to mix since you keep up with your secrecy business. I hope that you realize the fact that most
people here want to mix and combine.
no need to mix in any other mones, as doing so will be counter-productive.
We've already taken the incentive for
you (in mixing together the mones), and so no additional mixing is required! -- Quoting Belgareth:I know that for some connoisseurs, its difficult to resist the urge.. But again, youWhatever
it is, it works.
really don't need anything else in the mix
Personally - If I could choseOriginally Posted by Archetypical Hybrid
(HEC)
one product and use it solely for the rest of my life it's AQ. Maybe I am a rare example - but the reactions I get
with it are out of the world. I've had more women (ages 17-22) comment on my smell.. Usually "Wow you smell so
sexy" or "Mhmm something about you is driving my wild!" And that's no exaggeration! HEC - very nice work on the
product - I don't know why, but my NPA/SOE are getting dusty in my drawer
Well I do know why
After a few weeks of playing with androstanone, I have to agree. However it-stanone behaves more like
-nol then anything else..
smells more like 'none than 'nol...
AdrenaIine, I'm actually in Honolulu. I merely prefer the country hick
image of Waimanalo!
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Mixing and experimenting is a
big part of what the users here want to do. I can understand why they would like to know what is in it and you are
going to have to accept that some people will add other mones to it. However, you are entitled to your secret
formula too. For me, it makes no difference and knowing what is in it wouldn't make any difference either. I'll
still experiment with it just because I can.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Yes but for some people our test mixes couldOriginally Posted by belgareth
perhaps give even better results if we knew what was in it..
Perhaps, perhaps not. HEC and the company he works for are entitled to keep secrets if they wish. AsOriginally Posted by WorkingMann
consumers we are entitled to not buy the product if it means that much to know what is in it. It isn't that big a
deal to me. The product gets effects, I can extrapolate potential additions to the current effect and make pretty
good guesses what will happen.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Thanks, Bruce. Received mine
today.
When people don't reveal their formulas, it makes it harder for those who like to know exactly what
they are mixing to be precise about what they are trying to achieve. So it holds "progress" back from that stand
point. There is no way guessing from observed effects of a multipheromone product is as effective as planning each
chemical you use individually.
However, this negative is far outweighed in the minds of most pheromone producers
by the need to protect the earning power of their product. There might also be other miscellaneous reasons, good
ones, for keeping an ingredient secret.
They have the right to withhold this information, and we have the
right not to buy it, as Bel states.
I see both sides of it, being somebody who made a product as well as a
passionate "forum experimenter type" from way back. I've often wished there could be more disclosure.
One way
around this is to have all pheromones available individually, or maybe also to have some products where you know
what is in them but not the proportions, so you could experiement on your own.
If everyone disclosed, there
would be no problem. But that is not likely to happen any time soon.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
AdrenaIine, could you please post how much you've worn with best results? Were did you apply it,Originally Posted by AdrenaIine
did you wear cover scent? Thanks!
HEC and Bel, that's great to hear then. From the hints as
"being one of the smelliest mones" I thought it was a no brainer to conclude with -none. I'm very interested in
trying this product out as a standalone, but I'm really quite suspiscious to wether it'll work as good without the
other goodies I'm used to wearing. I'll give it a real fair shot to see and will post my results.
HEC, could
you try to compare your to Chikara and A314?
The dripper was kinda bad so I dumped some into my old NPA bottle - which IOriginally Posted by gfunk
washed thoroughly beforehand. I was dab once on each sideburns/area. Dab once on the adam's apple, and one on the
back of my neck. If I'm feeling lucky - I might dab a couple more times. So about 4 dabs to sometimes 6-8. I can
honestly say, that the amount you put on isn't an issue.. No OD'ing for me.. Even if I did OD, it probably worked
in my advantage For cover scents I use Gucci Envy, Rochas Man, Bulgari Aqua... Now the first two are
winter scents, and the other aquatic I guess - it still blends well with the AQ. AQ can be worn with almost any
scent - as it's almost a sweet after shave type smell.
I've gotten great results using all amounts - I
definetly think you can apply this liberally without worry. It seems it made girls more open about how they are
feeling. I recieved numerous "Ooh you're so sexy" etc etc with girls just smelling my neck and the AQ.
Gfunk: I've
always thought that A1 smells stronger than -none..
I assumed it wasFrom the hints as "being
one of the smelliest mones" I thought it was a no brainer to conclude with -none.
likely 'rone. Rone is as funky as none. A-1 only has a slight phero musk to my nose. I'd rate it as faint and mild
compared to rone and none. I guess everyone's sense of smell is different.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
You may be right, but myOriginally Posted by WorkingMann
problem with scented products in general is two-fold; most of the time I just don't like the added scent. Bu that
of course is a matter of taste, simple as that.
But even if I do happen to like it (and that HUGO you mentioned
is not a bad scent at all) there is always the problem of the scent not being strong enough.
For because the
effective dose is not the same for everyone, so the manufactor can't make his product to strong smelling, one or
two drop may be nice, but a double, or even a triple dose may turn you into a frag-bomb! Not something you want in
most cases...
So what happens is that after a couple of hours the phero's start to stink their way thru the frag
of the cologne, bad idea in most cases.
If I add my own I don't have all this problems, thats why I prefer
unscented.
So far I've worn it twice in
combination with a -nol product, and NPA, so I believe it was miscombined.
The effects were generally friendly
and positive, but very mild and not striking. I used one drop each time.
I've a better understanding now, since
I finally read the rest of the thread. So my next report or two will be much better.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
I've worn AQ and it really doesnt stink..Originally Posted by TRense
Often if a scented product will
have the chance of stinking after a few hours if when you sniff it from the bottle will have a bi-scent that isn't
that good.. If it totally smells strong and like a normal scent than it woun't stink after a few hours.. And even
if it stinks it normally isn't much..
And AQ smells good all the way through so woudn't be worryed about
it..
But else you can wait till the unscented AQ comes out..
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