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    Hey everybody, long time no see. I've missed everybody.

    I've been busy with my psychology practice, family,

    and musical projects lately; and haven't had much time for pheromones. Like most of you, I have interests besides

    pheromones and perfumery.

    But I decided to stop by to order some products from Bruce, and noticed a suprising

    number of critical references to my past discourse about pheromones and perfumery on the forum, from one particular

    member. It was suprising because I haven't been here in a long time.

    I have no interest in engaging in a

    debate, or saying a bunch of stuff about someone else; but I just wanted to make my positions clear, since someone

    has been attributing certain things to me in my "absence". I'm not going to include the original criticisms,

    because I want to devote as little space and energy to this as possible.

    1. My anonymity: I prefer to

    remain anonymous because my professional clinical practice with families takes precedence over my life in

    pheromones; over being "a guy who helps you get laid", or something. I don't want to mix up public identities. It

    always seemed the most responsible path.

    It has nothing whatsoever to do with some attempt to market pheromones

    or hide who I really am, as was intimated. There are people here who know me and my professional qualifications

    (PhD, psychology), such as Bruce and some of the moderators. For that matter, one of the people who I once told my

    real name, employment, and place of education to was the same person remarking negatively on my anonymity. The whole

    issue of my anonymity seems silly and trivial.

    2. My product and claims: I never made scientific claims

    about my product, Pheros, which was a personal labor of love that was started long before I decided to market

    it, as Bruce could attest. Every statement I ever made is on record here. I wanted to make a contribution to the

    phero community as well as sell something. I wrote a lot about perfuming here, and people had been asking me to make

    something for Love Scent.

    My product came out of the perfumery and aromatherapy traditions by design, and was

    designed to fill a niche that no one else came close to targeting. It was always designed to supplement, not

    supplant, "chem lab approaches".

    You have to rely on traditions and histories, not scientific research, in

    those worlds. There are bits and pieces of science you can incorporate, but I was never aiming at "hard science" --

    just to be true to the traditions and see what they could offer. I still believe there is a unique role for both

    traditional perfumery and aromatherapy in attraction. Why can't all disciplines cooperate toward the same goal? I

    wasn't coming at that project from a strictly scientific place, and always made that clear. A brief search on my

    product under my forum name would confirm all this, of course; not that anyone should care enough to look it all

    up.

    3. My scientific debates on pheromones: On the other hand, I do claim to pass muster as someone very

    conversant -- professionally conversant -- in science, psychology, human relationships, statistics and research

    design/methodogy, because that is my professional training. No big deal. My advisor and some of my committee were

    prominent experts in research design and methods, and I was forced to get good in that area to get them to let me

    out of grad school. (The person claiming that I somehow "tossed aside the science" has an associate's or

    bachelor's degree in lab tech, IIRC, so I don't take their word as the last on how scientific I am.)

    When I

    discussed pheromone science, I stuck with the rules and discipline of science, though trying to avoid the overly

    narrow approach that so often screws up science's contribution to the rest of life. I considered the science before

    I wrote anything; and I stand by the scientific integrity of everything I've ever said in this forum (which is

    different from saying I was always right). This is no big deal either, as you would expect a PhD in science to be

    scientific. Again, it's all on record here.

    What I did was disagree with someone else's interpretation or

    critical review of the science and research we were considering. We both read it, and I saw it different than they

    did. In particular, I disagreed strongly with drawing certain overarching conclusions about human nature,

    psychology, and relationships from the body of pheromone research.

    I was qualified to do that, given that I was

    professionally trained to design, produce, and critically evaluate human science research. That is just normal

    scientific debate, even at its most "scientific". It was precisely my experience in human science, along with

    several years of previous interest in pheromones, that led me to those disagreements.

    I regret that those

    debates sometimes became emotional in a negative way. That happens when you have fallible humans with egos; for

    example, myself.

    4. Finally, Archetypal Hybrid and I are indeed different persons -- lucky for him! Congrats

    to him on his new products, BTW!

    I hope everyone had a great holiday and New Year's celebration!
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    Hey Doc, shine on and keep on

    pluckin' brother!
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Hey Doc, Good to see you again.

    Hope to have you back posting and active here once more. Missed your input.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    whoa, it has been a while.

    looking forward to seeing more of you.

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    Thanks, guys. Yeah, Gegogi, we

    have to keep pluckin! Hope you've been keepin' 'em in line, Bel!
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Doc,
    It's great to have

    you back. I always spoke highly of your product for what it is and still use it as that special cologne for those

    special nights. IT'S THE BEST DAMN SMELLING THING THAT I HAVE EVER WORN!!! I bought mine about 2 years ago and if

    you could answer 2 quick questions, I would really appreciate it.
    1) Does it expire? It has seemed to weaken with

    time.
    2) Have you changed anything since I bought mine? If I remember correctly it was one of fifty bottles

    made.

    Welcome back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlboro_man
    Doc,
    It's great to have you back. I always spoke highly of your product for what it is and

    still use it as that special cologne for those special nights. IT'S THE BEST DAMN SMELLING THING THAT I HAVE EVER

    WORN!!! I bought mine about 2 years ago and if you could answer 2 quick questions, I would really appreciate it.
    1)

    Does it expire? It has seemed to weaken with time.
    2) Have you changed anything since I bought mine? If I remember

    correctly it was one of fifty bottles made.

    Welcome back!
    Thanks for the question. I'm glad

    you liked it.

    Unfortunately, I agree with you that it weakens with time. The little bottle I sat on my desk,

    unsheltered from the sunlight, is now just a shadow of its former self.

    I didn't put an expiration date on it

    simply because I had no idea how long it would last, being an organic product.

    Many commercial perfumes lose

    quality after a year or so, but I hoped it would last longer than that because it was heavy on bass notes, musky,

    and earthy ingredients. (Citrusy, top-notey scents have a shorter life. Pure musks have been known to hold their

    scent for hundreds of years.)

    At the time and thereafter, people asked me how long it would last. I would

    tell them I didn't know, because it was organic; but to keep it away from heat and light.

    If you bought one

    of the fifty bottles you got the collector's edition and (reusable) bottle. I did refine the formula slightly once

    or twice after that.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Default good to see you

    back DST!!!
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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    Like bringing coals to Newcastle,

    but I missed you too. Hope you stick around. We'll watch your back this time.
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    (back)

    Hey

    Doctor
    Really a loong time no see..
    Hope you got the time now to stick around here again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Thanks

    for the question. I'm glad you liked it.

    Unfortunately, I agree with you that it weakens with time. The little

    bottle I sat on my desk, unsheltered from the sunlight, is now just a shadow of its former self.

    I didn't put

    an expiration date on it simply because I had no idea how long it would last, being an organic product.

    Many

    commercial perfumes lose quality after a year or so, but I hoped it would last longer than that because it was

    heavy on bass notes, musky, and earthy ingredients. (Citrusy, top-notey scents have a shorter life. Pure musks have

    been known to hold their scent for hundreds of years.)

    At the time and thereafter, people asked me how long

    it would last. I would tell them I didn't know, because it was organic; but to keep it away from heat and light.



    If you bought one of the fifty bottles you got the collector's edition and (reusable) bottle. I did refine

    the formula slightly once or twice after that.
    Good to know it wasn't just my imagination. I guess I

    know what will be part of my next order for sure!

    Bruce,
    The store says that it's still the special edition

    available. Is this true and if so how old is it? I want to order it again but don't want a bottle that't too old

    and half dead per se.

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    Um... it's been around for a

    while.

    Maybe it's time for a new Doc creation. We were talking about it for a while.
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce
    Um... it's

    been around for a while.

    Maybe it's time for a new Doc creation. We were talking about it for a

    while.
    How long is a while?

    I really do love it but I am concerned with buying it again if that's

    the case. I still have some left (about 2 years old) but it's safe to say that it's just about dead. Smell fades

    very, very quickly. Please keep me informed with any development or new product by DOC. and I will be the first to

    buy it. Hopefully he can out do himself (if that's possible)

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    Great to see you around, Doc!
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    Thanks, Holmes. Great to hear

    from you. Maybe Bel or Oscar can give you my email address, (with my permission) since the PM system is dead

    here, and you can let me know what you've been up to.

    I've been pretty intensively into my music lately.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    That would be great. (bel? Oscar?

    Bruce?)

    Glad to hear that you've been pursuing your music. Would love to hear a sample or two

    sometime.

    Got a myspace?
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    I'll take care of it.
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    Got it. Many thanks, bel!
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    Happy to help and sorry that

    things are such that we have to use such round about methods.
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    I have a myspace, but nothing

    on it yet. I'm a little green yet with the computer and web part of music. I do have some nice guitar tracks

    recorded, however. I just am now figuring out how to download those onto my own hard drive, to give you an idea of

    how naive and behind the times I am.

    Thanks, Bel.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce
    Like bringing

    coals to Newcastle, but I missed you too. Hope you stick around. We'll watch your back this time.
    Thanks,

    Bruce. It's also fun to gild lilies, preach to choirs, and sell ice boxes to eskimos.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Holmes, still waiting for that

    email!! There may be a track or three in it for you, since you are a music junkie.

    (P.S. All I will say about

    the latest "debate" in the pheromone discussion involving "one particular forum member" is, "Wow! If I had a

    nickel...")
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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