What's a DIHL?
Okay, since
I've started to wear PI daily...I've noticed a recurring problem.
I think I make women nervous. They get
sexually excited quite a bit, but very intimidated.
It's almost like they look at me as I'm going to rape
them with my 5-foot-long penis in my pants. Which is not the case.
Basically, they look very
intimidated.
Often, in a lecture hall, classroom, or study lounge...all the girls will stare, blush when I look
at them, flip their hair, do amazing things with their legs to get my attention, steal glances at me, try to win my
attention in various ways...etc.
Yet, they seem very shy. The more aggressive girls will get right in my
personal space and make it known they want me...but most are very shy and barely make eye contact.
The odd thing
is, most times I'll go sit somewhere where I am the only one sitting there. Then, within 20-30min, I will slowly
be surrounded by hot girls. Then, they'll start showing the obvious body language signs, turning red, and just
turning their entire bodies as if I'm some sort of human magnet.
Yes, this has been getting to my head. I find
myself laughing at it often. It's crazy, very unreal that it happens everywhere I go. But the problem is when I
start to talk to these girls they are nearly scared and their faces become like tomatoes. Or, in other cases, when
I start talking they'll appear like they're very surprised that I'm talking to them. As if I didn't see them
staring.
I mean, yeah, you could say maybe I'm mistaken. But get this...let's say there's 2 chairs facing
forward. I'm sitting in one chair. Then a girl comes and sits in the one beside me...both of us facing forward.
Then within 10min, she'll move her chair so as to directly face me (instead of forward), and just have her whole
body facing me. Now, yes, I could bring up a plethora of other explanations, and perhaps there's no way to prove
it's a hit...but point being, when I start talking to her, she'll act like "uh...who are you, why are you talking
to me?" Not angered or anything, but very much like a DIHL, frozen and speechless sort of. It almost seems like
her mind is drifting off to some other topic and she's trying hard not to make eye contact as I talk to her.
Weird...any explanation?
I'd actually expected they would be friendly and warm to my approach. Like excited
that I chose to talk to them.
Today I talked with one girl who seems like she was dying for my attention. When
we started conversing, she just would not stop talking. It was like instant rapport, like I was just some friend
who already knew her. Either that, or she was just nervous and didn't want any awkward silences?
Point being,
what things can I do to ease these girls to being more relaxed around me? Should I smile more? I smile a lot
already...maybe add some LT or SOE to the mix?
The other question I had was, do women actually smell the .none?
In other words, It seems like when I go somewhere, all women in a 15-20ft radius get turned on. Do they SMELL me,
or do they SENSE me? Is it that they get turned on by some smell or by sensing my presence?
The reason I ask
is because most times the girls are not even in my line of sight or vice versa. For example, I'll be sitting
somewhere, and when I get up, I notice a girl behind me who is beet-red, twirling her hair, and as I turn around she
glues eyes on me. Often times girls sitting with their backs to me...who DID NOT SEE ME ENTER, will turn around and
steal glances at me. It also seems like girls notice other girls coming on to me, and it makes them wonder why so
many girls are staring at me, etc. And that's sort of funny.
Any answers/suggestions/comments, etc. would be
helpful, thanks.
One idea I've thought of is to try and initiate some sort of physical touching/contact right
off the bat. Like a light touch to the arm or something...maybe that would help ease them? Or would it make things
worse...
What's a DIHL?
Deer In Headlights Look-a blatant long stareOriginally Posted by dunbar
Sounds like the ice is being broken and you gottaOriginally Posted by smooth312
work on your game.Smile more and talk to these ladies but don't touch them make them touch you first.I would stick
with PI AND NOT MIX unless you get into a slump.
SOE softens and makes people
friendly and open.
It would be a good addition.
You probably also need to
a) smile more
b) say their name (the most important word in any language) more.
c) kid them/crack jokes more
(maybe a really stupid lame even childish type joke)
maxo, what you describe is what
Anone is supposed to do reaction-wise, just as the Dr said.
It works that way with younger women, and with
30's and above ones, you will get on average better straight communications back.
God created 30's & 40's
women for a very good reason ... (insert guess here)
What fox said is very true:
Mixing will dilute the effects and changeOriginally Posted by platinumfox
them into many things. Anone needs to be perfected first, both the phero effect combined with your handling it, or
you'll spend years experimenting, not exactly knowing.
The reason is simple, no matter what you try or your mix
would be, you will come back to Anone standalone at different stages. So, why not figure it all out now.
Tone down on the none, implement
some of the more social or comforting mones. OR eliminate the none altogether for a while. Its very tricky to use,
and highly inconsistent
High doses of none create DIHL type effect and what not, but unless a woman is fully
comfortable with you, the amount of tension it can create does more harm than good in most situations. For this
reason, I would only really advise high amounts of none in situations when you'll be around women who know you
quite well...not in first approach type situations.
When you use pheromones, don't simply go for DIHL's,
blushes, stares, etc....all of that is merely superficial. The point of using pheromones is to make actual PROGRESS
in creating attraction and then taking it forward. Too many times you hear people bragging of DIHL's and what not
without any real concrete success.
Pheromones work best when they open up people to you, not when they close
them off. This is where social mones such as anol, dienone, TAA and others really start to shine (no pun intended).
They help build a good amount comfort, rapport, and social chemistry making it easier for you to set things in the
right direction. None has its benefits, but it really shouldn't be the highlight of a mix.
This may sound weird (as it is
to me too), but I once was with a girl that kept so high an concept (wrong, obviously) of me that she got always too
nervous to actually do any "thing". She never told me that until after we broke, and I surely was shocked, since not
even me had so much high hopes on myself.
I never truly understood that, and it´s hard to get
into another person´s mind, but I imagine that when that happens the girl is so amazed that you may have any
interest on her, or she is so attracted (though she may not know the reason, as with ´mones) that becomes
nervous with only the idea of spoiling the thing, or having a deception. In here we have a saying that´s
something like "When the gift is too big, it´s worth of distrust". Of course, this shouldn´t be the case
of the so-called "alpha", sex-oriented women, but who knows...
Or else you´re just stinking, but they
feel attracted even though.
In any case, I don´t think touching can be good until you get some
good "rapport". She will touch you when she´s comfortable with you, so until then it should be enough for you
to have good body language.
I myself would try to focus on (at least) one and once we got some true
confidence to each other (with or without "spicy" events in the intercourse) I´d tell her what I felt and
thought in those first moments (only as an "opener") and ask what she felt. But I must warn I´m not a
specialist in this area, comments welcome.
BTW, I´m not a native english speaking person, so sorry
for my poor english, and any correction will be immensely welcome.
Androstenone isn't always
something thats percieved as being 'sexy' either, nor is it something that directly creates attraction.
Androstenone projects a strong sense of physical prowess and aggression, which women are drawn to at varying
degrees. At excessive amounts it can be overbearing to the point that women are downright intimidated by you, may
take no notice of you, or be put-off by you.
Different women have varying degrees of tolerance to these types
of perceptions, and its very hard to replicate the effects of androstenone from one instance to another. Its
something you always have to be mindful of.
Originally Posted by restless
actually, your english is better than some of the supposed natural english speakers here. We have a tendancy to
take our own language, and butcher it to the point we can't understand each other
Thanks for all your responses.
Yeah, I think maybe I do need to smile more.
Still, I also think maybe I should tone down my mones a bit. PI
is a lot stronger than I expected. Today was by far the worst ever. Everywhere I went I attracted stares from
girls so obviously that everyone noticed it. I started to get pretty pissed actually because I didn't think it was
that strong and I was trying to study but couldn't focus at all. I mean, the problem is, I like PI...but it
attracts every damn girl, almost. It's not like I can just have it work when I want...once I apply the stuff it
seems like it actually gets stronger as time passes and every girl in the vicinity is hooked...old, young, ugly,
hot...it doesn't matter. Today I was at a study lounge, and this dude was studying with this chick. And
seriously, I'm not gay but he was a good-looking guy almost like a model. I'm no model, but after that guy left,
the chick moved her chair so she would face me directly and starts the whole deal. And the two girls to my left
were both staring and talking about me...Come on...I mean, does anyone know what is really in this stuff?? It
can't just be -none because NPA never worked like this, I OD'd waaay to easily on NPA lots of times. PI must have
something else in it...
I might try some of that tomorrow. I like SOE, but the only reason I don't use it much isOriginally Posted by maxo-texas
because of the drowsy/buzz effect it has on me.
You could be right that the ice is broken, but it'sOriginally Posted by platinumfox
at a point where the ice is not just broken it's evaporated and I almost feel awkward jumping to that stage right
off the bat. I think I'm going to tone it down a bit, to make myself more comfortable too...it's just too much.
I think Sigma made a good point about this...
Yeah, today I got probably moreOriginally Posted by Sigma
DIHLs, stares, blushing...and everything...more than any other day, even girls with their boyfriends right there
couldn't keep their eyes off me. But like I said to be honest it was annoying, and you're right it didn't get me
anywhere. Although, I didn't really talk to them much either. But yeah...I'll tone it down.
Hey restless,
thanks for sharing about that situation with that chick. Yeah, that's how I feel my situation sort of is. By the
way, your English is excellent.
how much of PI are you
using?
Isn't that always uncomfortable.Originally Posted by smooth312
-Nate
Are you a rep for PI? Every post
you have says how good this stuff is. Thats awesome that you are having such amazing results and that you are
figuring out how to use them to match your body chem... This was the first product that I used 5 years or so back,
LOL, I should have read directions. I put like 5 drops on everyday. Then again, I was too oblivious to notice any
negitive effects as well. But because of your posts, I am buying PI again. Do you use UNSCENTED or SCENTED? Also,
how much and where do you use it?
I should be careful, last time I made a few purchases that had only 1 person
(I know there is many, but smooth's are amazing) raving each post on the stuff, I purchased stuff that didn't do a
damn thing for me, then two weeks later, posts came on here how the product is BS... I got taken! :-P
Okay, so I 'toned down' a
bit today. Actually, after exfoliating last night, I didn't apply any PI this morning. I figured I already may
have some built up on my skin since last time I seemed to have used too much (1.5 drops).
So anyway, I took the
suggestions and applied some SOE. That had some awesome effects in the morning everyone around me was giggles and
talked nonstop. It's so funny when you see 'mones in action, you'll see people who barely talk become the talker
of the group...it's definitely interesting.
Anyhow, when the SOE started to wear off at around 11...the effects
of the PI (built up from yesterday) began to kick in. Girls again getting sexual around me...and I've noticed when
that happens it puts myself right into the sexual vibe mindset.
So anyway, got a few hits and then I re-applied
some cover scent and 4 sprays of LT on my shirt. This was around 12pm.
I went to get a drink and flirted/teased
with the cashier. She was blushing/giggly. I think LT was a nice combo with the PI but it gave too much of a
'nice guy' vibe. Maybe 4 sprays is too much. But anyway, at the study lounge I got 2-3 hits...girls again
swarmed me. There were 2 girls to my right who could not stop talking, and everything they talked about was sexual
stuff, like outloud in the study area, lol.
Also the girl to my left was totally onto me. And the rest of the
day...pretty much just more hits. I'm definitely just getting used to it more...it's pretty sweet getting
eye-f'd everywhere.
Though, sometimes it is kind of awkward when bfs are around. I steal the spotlight pretty
quick.
Anyway...
SoCal, lol, no, I'm not a rep for PI. Yeah ... maybe I should stop praising it so much.
But I can't help it. It's just magical. Anyhow, I use 1 very small drop. Check out my thread:
Wooooooohoooooo!!!! PI is my Daddy!!!!!
That
has a detailed post of exactly how I've been applying, exfoliating, and I also included pictures of my dropper,
etc. I have the unscented version.
Yeah, I seriously will never use any other product again, other than PI...and
maybe just mix others in with it. I have pretty much a whole vial of AE that I don't touch any more. Any
takers?
I think PI works really well with SOE. LT isn't bad either (it's better with NPA though imo).
So
anyway, yeah...I'm tired of talking about all my hits...I'm doing something about it now and just talking to all
these girls who come-on to me...
...it's a little different than what I'm usually used to. I mean, without
mones girls will occasionally hit on or approach me, but with 'mones they fawn over me everyday, lots of them...so
you got to have a different perspective. I'm trying to smile more and be friendlier...and I'm getting used to
this new way of getting to know girls...it's lots of fun
later
Any application ofOriginally Posted by smooth312
androstenone in excess of 20 mcg which is the best average usefull amount to apply is on the + side towards an OD
and one drop of PI alone will give you over 20 mcg and this can easily add too much stress to your aura, with PI
less is often best and even 1/2 a drop can easily be sufficient if using PI alone.
YouOriginally Posted by terry0400-40
know, you make a really good point...and I think I've actually been OD'ing a lot lately. In fact, I've probably
OD'd on PI many times...I think that's probably why girls 20-30ft away lock eyes with me and are drawn into me
like a magnet. Yup, very good point, no wonder...
And I've been feeling really hot in lots of places...I think
that may be a side-effect...since I remember that NPA sometimes made me feel warm as well.
Ah, thanks for posting
Terry...it helped me just have an "ah ha!" moment...I'm going to be much more careful from now on...
A 1/2 drop PI is a good way to start if using it alone even 3/4 dropOriginally Posted by smooth312
as it all depends on your own chemistry and the perceived conditions that you will be operating under, like a smokey
club or bar enviroment would probably necessitate an extra drop, I find the addition of a little androstenol gives
the PI more of an attractive and friendly edge and some users also add a smidgeon of androsterone which adds an aura
of protection and reliability to the final mix.
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I've had some interesting
results with PI these past few days. I actually bought it on ebay and wasn't aware it was PI at first!
Day 1 -
one drop of PI on my wrist, covered with Acqua di gio, I went to a dancing lesson and saw some interesting
reactions. I got some very good comments even from the dancing instructor who was very friendly with me after the
lesson.
Day 2 - One too large drop of PI on my wrist covered with Acqua. I got some interesting reactions -
probably an OD as I Saw two women sit next to me and leave soon after! They looked very nervous.
A couple of hours
later, another woman's reactions were much different - I saw lots of girly giggling and her face was beet red. I
was very close to her so I guess the mones did their job. I'm not interested in them (they are not singles or are
not the age I'm interested in).
Day 3 - One drop of PI on the wrist covered by Issey. Passed by a girl - really
stunning - didn't get any reaction. But I met her again by coincidence she was going to same place I was, and we
smiled at each other and she behaved like we were old friends (waved at me etc). Due to circumstances we couldn't
talk much but I may see her again. We'll see, I may be interested in her.
Day 4 - Small dab of PI on the wrist. No
reactions at a supermarket, only a woman and her daughter rubbed against my behind at a cheese counter! Not sure it
was the mones or not.
Day 5 - Two small dabs of PI on the neck and two small streaks of SOE on my wrist. Got some
interesting reactions at work like some light reddish blushes...
I try to wash the PI off daily. I only seem to
have OD'd when the drop was too large. Still I'm careful not to use too much, just a drop.
You seem to be managing the PI well keep up the good work,Originally Posted by Superman
You might get extra positive results if you splash on a little more SOE to give you added approachability, this is
all good fun so enjoy. oh keep us informed if u can thanks 4 d info
Thanks!
I'm finding it
amazing how effective these products can be.
Some of these pheros are refined and exciting, each day and night is a new adventure always different with a varietyOriginally Posted by Superman
of oils en girls with so many kool spicy fragrances on offer we are sure to add some to our coffer, ha ha yeear
sometimes we may create a great all round hitter anda other times we wait, still theres plenty to do and so many
great and good projects to plan And then all of a sudden QUICK now look at that, FLASH RIGHT HERE NOW phewww.....
the STARS have lined up and WE are IN ((((((((=)))))))) through the GOLDEN DOOR this is a land of dreams, and that
of soft perfumes oooooh THE ESSENCE OF WOMAN mmm oH BaBy i like your dress.
What have you tried? Alpha Androstenol isOriginally Posted by Superman
really good mone. In the long run, its probably been the all around most beneficial to me. Scent of Eros is a
goodie.
I'm in my late thirties.
I am
using Pure Instinct (one drop or even less), and occasionally I use SOE too.
Today I used a drop of Pure Instinct
with a dash of SOE. I went to the dance school to do some practise. I had some time on my own so I tried to rub off
some mones from my hand onto a CD case that the instructor uses in the lesson. Well I had to touch it to put the CD
back in and I touched the stereo too. Probably the next lesson will be very interesting
...
Last edited by Superman; 08-22-2007 at 10:05 AM. Reason: Fixed wrong acronym
I posted that I used PI, but I
got the acronym wrong. It's actually Pure Instinct sex attractant cologne. My mistake, I must have mixed them up.
Seems to be similar in its effects (Well the ones I posted were the result of this). The oil has a strong smell.
I've never heard of it...did you get the stuff from LS? I'd be interested in it since youOriginally Posted by Superman
seem to have nice results similar to some of mine..
I bought it from ebay before I
had found LS. I read in the forums that it doesn't have too much -none in it. Still like I had posted, I think I
did OD once using it. Or it was due to something else, who knows.
Well at present I'm only using and testing
. I'll try both together later this weekend perhaps...
Smooth, i know you know just a
drop, but i'm wondering how big your drops are? like the size of a penny? or a small ball-bearing? in
between?
And i'm planing to get PI, never had it before, is it runny? or thick?
check out thisOriginally Posted by blooot
thread I made:
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=16642
I've included pics of the
dropper I use...
PI is oily, and thicker than NPA. I've cut out lots of pieces of wax paper, and I place the
drop of PI onto wax paper. Then, I take another piece of wax paper and spread the drop around into little
divisions...that's how I tell if I'm using a drop vs. 1/2 a drop, etc. You have to approximate the portions
visually.
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