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    Default How safe is your computer?

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    computer users. Looks like the start of an interesting series from the BBC. (This is part one. Tomorrow, they will

    look into what happens when they
    let the computer get infected with malware. Wed and Thurs will
    look at spam

    and phising.)



    As referenced from Slashdot:

    "This article from the BBC shows how vulnerable XP Home really

    is.
    Using a highly protected XP Pro machine running VMWare, the BBC
    hosted an unprotected XP Home system to

    simulate what an 'average'
    home PC faces when connected to the internet."

    From the article: "Seven hours of

    attacks: 36 warnings that pop-up
    via Windows Messenger. 11 separate visits by Blaster worm. 3
    separate attacks

    by Slammer worm. 1 attack aimed at Microsoft IIS
    Server. 2-3 "port scans" seeking weak spots in Windows software."


    The machine was attacked within seconds of being connected to
    the Internet, and at no time did more than 15

    minutes elapse
    between attacks.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5414502.stm
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    aren't you afraid of giving your

    credit card number or other secret data on the net??

    there might be an hostile spyware catching this valueable

    data.

    i really want to buy some of this site products but thewhole internet credit card issue is quiet new and

    intimidating to me

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    This is why i own a mac.
    3

    trojans in 3 years ain't bad!
    This is what I use,
    http://www.markallan.co.uk/clamXav/

    If

    you don't want to use your card over the net, use the phone to place an order or fax it in. I've done it many

    times with other online stores.
    problem solved!
    early 40's white male or or

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    but how do you pay for the

    product??
    do you also tell your credit card number over the phone??

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    couple of options..
    Paypal via the

    net
    or ummm , yes, tell them your c/c number over the phone/fax including the expiry date and cv number.
    You

    won't have any problem with being rebilled for "extra stuff" with the Love Scent site as Bruce is an honest trader

    , just look at feedback in the forums.
    As always when using a c/c check the bill at the end of the month , I've

    never had any problem with visa reversing charges that were unauthorised on my account in the last 17 years...

    YMMV.
    early 40's white male or or

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    I've used Macs since 1984 and

    have never contracted a virus.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    I've used Macs

    since 1984 and have never contracted a virus.
    There are some minor benefits to using non-mainstream

    hardware, despite the major shortcomings. Macs really aren't any more secure than PCs or Unix systems but the small

    percentage of MACs on the market make them a less tempting target. They are also less promising for hardware and

    software developers so there are far fewer options for MAC users. Its a trade off some people prefer to make. I run

    several systems because of my work and have not had a virus on any of them in many years. But I'm not careless

    about maintenance either.

    The real threats aren't viruses anyway and have little, if anything, to do with

    viruses and are not really OS or computer specific. Instead, they are various phishing scams or data-trapping

    routines.
    Last edited by belgareth; 10-20-2006 at 04:38 AM.
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    athing you should know

    : phone isnt secure !!! in fact you can set any Ham radio listning device to a specific frequency & you will in fact

    ear the conversation !!
    2nd : always check that you are on a secure site: (litle lock at the bottom of your screen

    & that you are sending this information tru a secure link ( httpS://... ) {also there is an explorer

    setting that says warn before switching between secure & not secure pages} that also shoud be checked (in advace

    options)
    & whatever your OS is you are AT RISK!! viruses that pollute the internet are mostly from wanabees but if

    a real hacker whants to hack you there is no limit on what they can do & they know where to hit...
    but most of

    those target big enterprises & government &other unix systems (MAC OS is one of them)
    while trouble makers try to

    impresse by hacking a poor nobody running win98

    also there is ways you can secure windows ... firewall being

    the first (forget about windows 's firewall it is b*\\s**t !) & setting desired trafic to be allowed in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    I've used Macs since

    1984 and have never contracted a virus.
    The very first viruses and anti virus software (Worm Food)I ever

    dealt with were on the MAC back in '86. They weren't writing many viruses for DOS at the time.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Cool IT circus

    ...
    I'm trying to

    get some security certification... hard stuff (..study ++++)
    Well if you really want your computer safe.. is

    better user 'power off' way.
    Dont belive any company if they say that you are safe.

    check out this

    educational video..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P62vEZNCi4

    but there is more fun ..

    than a single Home PC... things really funny (?) on cisco routers !

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    Quote Originally Posted by abductor
    ...
    I'm trying to

    get some security certification... hard stuff (..study ++++)
    CISSP?

    I've been through some of the SANS

    courses, tough indeed.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
    --Lazarus Long

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    Wink ...

    not CISSP yet ..CCSP for while

    .. I need builder my career step by step... :-)

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