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    Default Maker of Masters!! He is real!

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    Seems

    this Dr. Peter T. Pugliese is not that elusive after all, he actually exists! And he is a real Dr with a very long

    Bio and Career.

    Theres more to Masters for men then meets the eye!

    He also makes a product called

    pheradore, interesting to hear if anyone has used it, seems its exclusively a womens only product though, but us

    guys tend to jump the fence in using thier products anyway.

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    How "real" is real. I like to

    verify other researcher's claims to fame via either Medline,

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed
    or scholar.google.com

    Try "PT Pugliese"

    and "JV Kohl"

    Let me know if you find a better means to authenticate the "Masters" and "Mistress" product

    line. Their advertising is some of the worst propaganda I've read.

    JVK

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    Yep, looked up those sites, I

    get you, his back to the elusive trash can!

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    Default It sounds like a made up name

    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    Seems this Dr. Peter T. Pugliese is not that elusive after all, he actually exists! And he is a real

    Dr with a very long Bio and Career.

    Theres more to Masters for men then meets the eye!

    He also makes a

    product called pheradore, interesting to hear if anyone has used it, seems its exclusively a womens only product

    though, but us guys tend to jump the fence in using thier products anyway.
    "Pugliese" I wonder how long it

    took to make the name up ? it sort of isnt to bad as it could belong to an individual involved with serious vaginal

    reshearch with his white coat on and head down sniffing around looking for results making scientific notes to

    confuse everyone blinding us all with science. Whoever made the name up probably had a real good grin on his face

    when he finally finished and had the name made up and down on paper, it is the sort of job that i think i would

    like, i wonder if the pay is ok ?

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    Dr. Peter T.

    Pugliese

    yeah the name sounds rather fake, it rolls off the tongue to easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    Dr. Peter T.

    Pugliese

    yeah the name sounds rather fake, it rolls off the tongue to easily
    The doctor is

    real, but I've found no information that indicates any involvement with pheromone research. A Dateline special on

    the making of "fake" infomercials detailed the involvement of a doctor who had been paid $5000 to endorse with her

    testimony the effectiveness of a skin-treatment that contained Nestle's Quick powder as its active ingredient. Just

    shows how little it costs to have someone toss ethical considerations aside to make a few more dollars.

    Since

    everyone involved makes money--as much as if they had actually come up with an effective product--there is little

    incentive to spend the amount it costs to do research and development. That's why you see so much fake stuff out

    there--especially when it comes to pheromone products.


    JVK

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    I googled his name and pher

    - this:
    "Peter T. Pugliese pher" in the google searchbar.
    And I found this:
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    Last edited by belgareth; 10-10-2006 at 07:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingMann
    I googled his

    name and pher - this:
    "Peter T. Pugliese pher" in the google searchbar.
    And I found this:
    I

    think that including the link will get your post censored, so I dropped it from my response. However, I note here

    that Dr. Pubgliese attempts to establish himself as an authority, using a citation to my published work--"Human

    Pheromones: Integrating Neuroendocrinology and Ethology." I have no idea how many others there are who have used my

    efforts to promote their products, but I've seen many examples, including one that says Pheromones are sometimes

    called the Scent of Eros, in an attempt to draw traffic to his site by using the name of my book and product line. I

    continue to hope that Forum members will check further into the ridiculous claims that are made by those who will do

    anything to market products, except research.

    JVK

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    Default I Have To Wash My Mouth Out

    Quote Originally Posted by terry0400-40
    "Pugliese" I wonder how long it took to make the name up ? it sort of isnt to bad as it could

    belong to an individual involved with serious vaginal reshearch with his white coat on and head down sniffing around

    looking for results making scientific notes to confuse everyone blinding us all with science. Whoever made the name

    up probably had a real good grin on his face when he finally finished and had the name made up and down on paper, it

    is the sort of job that i think i would like, i wonder if the pay is ok ?
    Well it looks like

    i have to wash my mouth out with soap as i have clicked onto DR Pugliese,s home page and it appears that he is a

    rather distinguished person with who has published over 60 papers and written 2 wellknown books on skin physiology

    and also sex and longevity, advanced professional skin care and also in 1996 The society of cosmetic chemists

    awarded him their highest honour the MAISON G DENAVARRE MEDAL for his contribution to cosmetic research. In feb 2001

    he was working with a new jersey cosmetic company on a pheromone product called ENTICE which he hoped to market. At

    the present time he is promoting and selling a female self awareness good feeling fragrance called PherAdore that

    must be applied under the nose and also to the wrists and pulsepoints, the cost is $69.95 usd, this product is sold

    from his homepage that i found reference to on this forum.The Doctor appears a lot older and more distinguished than

    i thought and it really does appear that the gentleman has a lot more going for himself than i thought so it is back

    to the drawing board for the masters, i wonder how popular this product is and if it is gaining a following, i

    suppose time will tell.In the meantime i shall have to take my medicine and offer pennance for ridiculing his good

    name.
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    Most of Dr. Pugliese's

    articles were published by SKIN, INC, a trade magazine catering to spas and salons, not peer-reviewed journals. He

    presented numerous papers at The Pugliese Group School (which yields zero hits on google) or at estheticians'

    conferences. I don't see any paper trail documenting his involvement with pheromones.

    His invention of

    cellulite-fighting pantyhose sounds nice, though.

    I think you can spare yourself the soap, Terry.

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    Hummmm how about actually trying

    the product , And see if it works before you pass judgement . To many Scientist wanna bees here .How about first

    hand trial and error ? I've had masters for aweek now , And used it afew times . There is something to that

    concoction just can't put my finger on it yet .
    I get a light buzz when i put it on around the mouth area , I

    feel mellow / relaxed for awhile after using it . As for effects on women I have not used it long enough to guage

    any responses,

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    Default Thank you beautifull girl

    Quote Originally Posted by silksand
    Most of Dr. Pugliese's articles were published by SKIN, INC, a trade magazine catering to spas and

    salons, not peer-reviewed journals. He presented numerous papers at The Pugliese Group School (which yields zero

    hits on google) or at estheticians' conferences. I don't see any paper trail documenting his involvement with

    pheromones.

    His invention of cellulite-fighting pantyhose sounds nice, though.

    I think you can spare

    yourself the soap, Terry.
    I would prefere strawberries or a ripe peach any time so may i save the soap to

    wash my masters off ? only joking, i dont have any even though i am intrigued at the possabilities the mystical

    master may have up his sleeve, and thank you darling for sparing me the soap you sound so nice. RE the MP well i

    must say i am a bit of a sucker and can be taken in easily at times especially if i am not led by the spitit of

    truth because of my habit of rushing in to areas where angels fear to tread,but then again even after my very last

    breath there is space for me, ahem its time 4 me to move on so sea ya sweet chops. terry0400-40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Nardoni
    Hummmm how

    about actually trying the product , And see if it works before you pass judgement .
    This is an

    expensive approach. Since most people can't afford to try every product, it makes more sense to check for

    references on whoever is claiming to be the authority behind the product. That's why I think it's inappropriate

    for Pugliese to cite my work in support of his products.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Nardoni
    To many Scientist wanna bees

    here .How about first hand trial and error ? I've had masters for aweek now , And used it afew times . There is

    something to that concoction just can't put my finger on it yet.
    Perhaps you'll tell us what's in

    it, and whether there is any scientific support for using whatever that is.



    JVK

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    I'm not a Scientist, nor do I

    claim to be. Since you are are A Scientist (JV Kohl) And researcher that is something you can do . But i'm quite

    aware there is alot of jealousy with in the scientific community , So the quick bad mouthing of a product without

    actually trying said product , and giving it a chance , may stem from alterior motives. After all Arrogance runs

    quite rampant amongst the scientific community . The bottom line is before badmouthing a product give it a fair

    chance trial and error . I want to hear from actual users of a product before i draw any conclusions .( P.S Your

    product SOE is a great product I have used it personaly !
    I forgot to mention if the maker of Masters is using

    your book too promote his product, without your permission that is a big NO NO ,And you should call him on it.

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    Default James V Kohl comments on Dr. Peter Pugliese

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Nardoni
    I'm not a Scientist... The bottom line is before badmouthing a product give it

    a fair chance trial and error.
    The fact that you are not a scientist is probably what leads you into

    the trial and error process. In contrast, as a scientist, when I first heard about this product, I investigated it,

    and was overwhelmed with misinformation.

    I was told by a company representative that they preferred use of

    the following chemicals in their formulation: Vomeropherin (a non-specific term for compounds that activate the

    non-existent human VNO: and a term coined by other marketers), Estratetraniol (misspelled) -- and TRP2, V1R/V2R,

    which are only known to me as possible pheromone receptors--not pheromones.

    I was also advised that the

    formula was created by Dr. Peter Pugliese, who has a vast array of data on the compounds --though no true clinical

    study had been done on these newer "pheromones". Finally, I was told that Lorne Caplan is responsible for the

    formula.

    Created by Dr. Peter Pugliese, but Lorne Caplan is responsible for the formula--seems to be

    conflicting information. But I could care less about this specific conflict when nothing I was told is supported by

    either by scientific data or any biologically based model that I am aware of.

    Note that I received this

    information from a company representative in June 2006, and did the best I could to resist "bad mouthing" their

    product. Only when I saw that Pugliese was using my Neuroendocrinology Letters review paper to support ??his??

    products, was I inclined to comment from my scientific perspective. Note, also, that I have not "bad mouthed" other

    products, despite the fact that few hold up to any degree of scientific scrutiny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael

    Nardoni
    ( P.S Your product SOE is a great product I have used it personaly !
    Thanks, but in all

    cases it might help you save money, time, and effort to learn more about the products before

    purchase.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Nardoni
    I forgot to mention if the maker of Masters is using your book too

    promote his product, without your permission that is a big NO NO ,And you should call him on

    it.
    Pugliese cites my 2001 published Neuroendocrinology Letters review as support for his product.

    And he is entitled to cite anything that I have published. Other marketers do this in attempts to validate their

    claims. But anyone who actually reads the cited work will find that it invalidates their claims. Since most people

    are unable to make any sense of technically written research papers, marketers are free to take advantage of them. I

    continue to suggest on occasion that people read my less technically written book.

    My main concern is that by

    taking advantage of unsuspecting buyers, the marketers give the entire concept of human pheromones a bad image. But

    you offer me the opportunity to present another concern. Namely, if I am critical of other products, I may create a

    bad image for myself, and my scientific efforts. That's why I haven't said much about other products in the past,

    and am unlikely to do so in the future.

    Your comments just happened to draw me out a bit in this

    thread.

    JVK

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    Fair enough

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    cool i foud my cosin

    in your Pubmed DB

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric_pelletier_tw
    cool i

    foud my cosin in your Pubmed DB
    That's great! I doubt that my own mother, or any other

    relatives even realize the significance of Pubmed citations, much less a listing as first author on a review. She

    took photos of me with the diploma and medal I was awarded for the review, but is unlikely to ever understand what I

    do. She even asked me one time why I would choose to study anything related to sex.

    Send an email to your

    cousin congratulating him; the support of family members is a plus in any area of research. And remember to look for

    additional citations at scholar.google.com where you can even see who has cited the research of

    others.

    JVK

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