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    Default Ok, Maxo and JVK, so I got my re-butt-al kicked...

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    Gotcha Maxo and JVK!

    You are correct, of course, in the fixed wing component of bumble

    bee flight. Give the first over-simplified example that comes to mind and one can bet that someone will disprove the

    theory!

    Let me qualify something, at times it is interesting to take a stance in a debate in which you may or

    may not agree at all, or partially, merely to make the discussion more lively. I give you Hannity and Colmes or

    Roper and Ebert as examples!

    But let us take the Jane thing further. May we assume that the average man

    has not had interaction beyond the fantasy world with Angelina Jolie, for instance? Yet I venture that most healthy

    men in Western society will say she is hot. No pheromones, no interaction, frankly, no hope of an approval from her

    whatsoever. Yet she is the subject of fantsy and desire. How does one explain this?

    And this is more of a

    legitimate question than one that is rhetorical. I am curious as to what reasons various people have on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monello
    But let us take

    the Jane thing further. May we assume that the average man has not had interaction beyond the fantasy world with

    Angelina Jolie, for instance? Yet I venture that most healthy men in Western society will say she is hot. No

    pheromones, no interaction, frankly, no hope of an approval from her whatsoever. Yet she is the subject of fantsy

    and desire. How does one explain this?

    And this is more of a legitimate question than one that is rhetorical. I

    am curious as to what reasons various people have on this site.
    Remember Pavlov’s experiment where when a

    dog would salivate a behaviorist would ring a bell? Well, same thing. The man has been

    “trained” by the scent of an attractive, healthy female, then when he see another, he associates the appearance with

    the scent.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    I just want to jump in here and

    get back to the breath thing. My experience has been that dental hygene is a must for people wanting to attract the

    opposite sex. One needs to use a mouth wash in the morning followed up by brushing. I would add that brushing the

    gums and roof of the mouth is important too. Believe me, I'm not a neat freak. I don't like to do these things

    but experience has proven that a clean mouth offers you a much better chance with women.

    As far as scents goes,

    I like the traditional minty crest. Starbucks used to have a peppermint breath losenge that was excellent, but

    about a year ago they changed the manufacture and formula. Overall, peppermint breath using some natural scent is

    the best...altoids has a mint lozenge which is ok.

    If you want my other opinion about the breath...keep it

    relaxed and don't take short breaths when talking with women. I don't know why this works, but practice relaxing

    and taking longer and deeper breaths. People try to get into rythem with breath unconciously and short breaths can

    make the other person nervious or uncomfortable. There are a lot of other reasons to slow down your breath and sync

    it up to the other person. Once you sync up the breath you can then feel a closer bond. It takes practice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohmmmm
    I just want to jump in

    here and get back to the breath thing. My experience has been that dental hygene is a must for people wanting to

    attract the opposite sex. One needs to use a mouth wash in the morning followed up by brushing. I would add that

    brushing the gums and roof of the mouth is important too. Believe me, I'm not a neat freak. I don't like to do

    these things but experience has proven that a clean mouth offers you a much better chance with women.

    As far as

    scents goes, I like the traditional minty crest. Starbucks used to have a peppermint breath losenge that was

    excellent, but about a year ago they changed the manufacture and formula. Overall, peppermint breath using some

    natural scent is the best...altoids has a mint lozenge which is ok.

    If you want my other opinion about the

    breath...keep it relaxed and don't take short breaths when talking with women. I don't know why this works, but

    practice relaxing and taking longer and deeper breaths. People try to get into rythem with breath unconciously and

    short breaths can make the other person nervious or uncomfortable. There are a lot of other reasons to slow down

    your breath and sync it up to the other person. Once you sync up the breath you can then feel a closer bond. It

    takes practice....
    breathe sync is an interesting study . i remember hearing about diffusing

    arguments/debate in a meditation group years back.
    my experience is that breath mints do not work. you cant

    cover-up a wet dog, and you cant make bad breath smell good without brushing. IMHO.

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    LOR,

    I agree that most breath

    mints don't work. I think mints can be the exception, but it depends upon the brand. I hightly suggest that

    people serious about mones and attraction brush your teath often and use a mouth wash....as Lor suggests. A clean

    mouth is totally underated...even if you can't smell your own bad breath and its not strong, it can be picked up by

    people around you. Best bet is to get rid of the breath factor in the equation and let the mones do their work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    Remember Pavlov’s

    experiment where when a dog would salivate a behaviorist would ring a bell? Well, same thing.

    The man has been “trained” by the scent of an attractive, healthy female, then when he see another, he associates

    the appearance with the scent.
    Nice to know that you understand how it works. Thanks for the concise

    non-technical summary.

    JVK

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