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    Default After a long break of pheromones and having Anxiety treatment I'm back on them and

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    After a long break of pheromones and having Anxiety treatment

    I'm back on them and Chikara is all I need.

    About a year and a half ago I was using phero's regularly until it

    was discovered I was suffering from axiety and some depression which caused me to lose a lot of muscle mass.




    Anyway I'm back in shape, just finished my computer networking program a few months ago and started a new job.



    Even w/o pheromones, I've managed to meet new women.

    But Since I started using Chikara again, I've managed to

    get the attention of more women and women that I want to get to know.


    At one point I was using a couple of

    squirts of Chikara and a couple of dabs of NPA combined.

    I was getting negative responses even from just a

    little bit of NPA.

    I just use a few squirts of Chikara for the day and it seems to do the trick.


    I also

    wanted to let you guys know that a male supplement called Saw Palmetto and Tribulus Terrestris also helps to gain

    attaraction from women.

    This isn't spam ( if it was I would've supplied links, brand names and prices etc..) ,

    I've been using these 2 supplements mainly for working out. They increase natural testosterone, support libido.



    Saw Palmetto is also an aphrodisiac.



    I just have a few questions, I guess this has to do with my body's

    chemistry but why did I get negative replies from women with such a small dose of NPA/Chikara, and with a few

    squirts of chikara alone I get much more positive replies from women?

    Any ideas?

    I also think that my

    testosterone support supplements also help with my own natural pheromones, any thoughts?


    It feels good to be

    back to this great forum and using the products again.

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    Hi Johnny,

    I too myself

    suffer from depression and anxiety for which I take medication for 5 years now. I'm on disability leave for the

    moment from work. The meds have also killed my sex drive. It's literally zip. I've tried exercise, tribulus ,

    and wot not and no effect. With the drugs on me and my condition I find it hard to work with mones.

    I find

    that none products like npa tighten up my face muscles, make me very tense and stiff, and give me headaches.



    I find a314 does the same.

    Only SOE seems to get me smiling, but I get walked over a lot with it

    on, and I don;t like to argue back (I have a natural timid pesonality). Also my concentration goes to hell with it

    , and it worsens my confidence after continuous use. Also SOE gets me gabbing on smalltalk . It also makes me

    sleepy.

    Chikara puts me into a good mood too the first 1-2 times I wear it then i'm as tense in the face as

    ever and get headaches.

    There have been seldom occasions when I hit the nail on the head with all products

    above giving hits. But the problem is I couldn't reproduce the results on a consistent basis. Either I OD on

    everything or my illness is screwing me up and the mones making my illness worse.

    If I apply to clothes etc I

    will lose the effectiveness of the mones on my persona, even if they do work on others.

    Any

    suggestions?


    All these products are effected by and effected from my illness.

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    1) Get your free testosterone

    levels checked. If they are sub 300, you need hormone replacement therapy. Not supplements- Androgel or Testim.

    These are very powerful and should only be used if your natural teste is toast because they replace it and the body

    turns down/off your natural production. As a teste-cancer survivor, at 12 years out, I suddenly had the symptoms

    you describe (plus foggy thinking, night sweats, poor sleeping, slow reaction speeds). After going on Androgel,

    I'm back up to 2-3 60 to 90 min sessions per day or 3 to 6 quickies (at 46) plus I'm happy- the anxiety is gone,

    I have chest hair for the first time in my life, I'm thinking clearly and quickly again, no more night sweats,

    etc.

    2) Depression AND Anxiety are BOTH symptoms of low testosterone.

    3) Losing muscle mass is a symptom of

    low testosterone.
    4) You may want to get your blood sugar checked because.. yup.. diabetes is a side effect of low

    testosterone.
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    Saw Palmetto has been used by native americans and is recommended by LEF (and numerous others)

    for prostate health.

    You may also wish to consider.. Super Miraforte and Prostate health formula later in

    life.

    You may also wish to consider I3C or better yet DIM supplements-- both of which help regulate the hormone

    cycle to be healthier. They reduce the amount of bad estrogen by converting it to a better form.

    --
    I don't

    know enough to recommend mones for you guys- except that I do not do them every day. Wagg-N gave me a SELF neg

    hit.

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    Default NPA can be a bit tricky 4 me sometimes as well

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Mnemonic
    After a long break of pheromones and having Anxiety treatment I'm back

    on them and Chikara is all I need.

    About a year and a half ago I was using phero's regularly until it was

    discovered I was suffering from axiety and some depression which caused me to lose a lot of muscle mass.




    Anyway I'm back in shape, just finished my computer networking program a few months ago and started a new job.



    Even w/o pheromones, I've managed to meet new women.

    But Since I started using Chikara again, I've managed

    to get the attention of more women and women that I want to get to know.


    At one point I was using a couple of

    squirts of Chikara and a couple of dabs of NPA combined.

    I was getting negative responses even from just a

    little bit of NPA.

    I just use a few squirts of Chikara for the day and it seems to do the trick.


    I also

    wanted to let you guys know that a male supplement called Saw Palmetto and Tribulus Terrestris also helps to gain

    attaraction from women.

    This isn't spam ( if it was I would've supplied links, brand names and prices etc..) ,

    I've been using these 2 supplements mainly for working out. They increase natural testosterone, support libido.



    Saw Palmetto is also an aphrodisiac.



    I just have a few questions, I guess this has to do with my body's

    chemistry but why did I get negative replies from women with such a small dose of NPA/Chikara, and with a few

    squirts of chikara alone I get much more positive replies from women?

    Any ideas?

    I also think that my

    testosterone support supplements also help with my own natural pheromones, any thoughts?


    It feels good to be

    back to this great forum and using the products again.
    When i apply 2 or 3 dabs of NPA below my ears with

    about 5" SOE on my lower front of neck i get very distainfull looks from females but after 1+1/2 hours everything

    seems to change and they just start coming on, I wore a dab of NPA under each ear yesterday and covered it with a

    shared drop of PI with 2 dabs of Pherofragrance a bit lower, and 4" SOE on the adams apple area and 2" on inner

    elbows, after 2 hours the women in the local market were just staring at me where ever i was and i changed locations

    to where there were a big mix of people the men were looking as if i didnt exist but the asian women were coming on

    and flirting big time which i thought was unusual, i wore the same mix to work and all of the young and older office

    girls were really checking me out i found it very amusing and pretended not to notice, when i was on break in a

    group of men i was ignored more than ever before even when i spoke i was ignored, after 5 hours the men started to

    speak to me like i was a best buddy, I wonder how they will act when i start splashing on some LT ? AND i am very

    curious to see how a few splodges of Masters will affect me as i will eventually buy some if the feedback is

    possitive on the forum for this juice.

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    Maxo Texas:

    Some great

    advice.

    BTW I tried HRT for 3 months before and noticed that the acne side effect was repulsive. I stopped

    it just because of that. I was taking the injection -- test cyphonate (sp?) 300 mg every 3 weeks. Is androgel

    better in terms of sides? How much acne did you get? Also I found the results of the injection to level off over

    repeated use. After 1 month it worked, by month 3 no effects.

    Do you have any suggestions?

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    food for

    thought:
    you dont have to be diabetic/hypoglycemic to need to get your blood sugar under control. that affects more

    than you realize.
    if interested, go to the library and read barry sears book the zone. it doesnt cost a

    thing to barrow, nothing to buy , and he gives great examples of how different diseases are eased or even erased

    with a change of diet and blood sugar regulation. by the way, this is NOT the same as reducing sugar in the diet.

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    Lor is right. It is a

    complex that feeds into itself.

    Blood sugar can mess you up-- bad gums can mess up your blood sugar (basically

    sugar in your mouth has a route to go straight into your bloodstream)-- bad andro cycle can mess up your blood

    sugar. You can manage blood sugar with
    1) DIET
    2) Supplements (cinnamen, gymnema)
    3) as a last result medical

    pills

    I have no acne from androgel cream.
    Teste injections hit you hard, then go to nothing before you get your

    next shot.

    Testim and androgel are used daily and slowly raise your level to to a particular level. They are

    not cheap now- but will be in about 2 years when generics start coming out. If you have insurance and low teste,

    they will probably be covered and prevent a lot of other problems (heart, diabetes, etc.)


    I suggest you take

    zinc and DIM if you use them or else the teste will convert to estrogen and you are screwed. You are 1) trying to

    prevent conversion (aromatization) of teste to estrogen and 2) convert estrogen to estrial (sp?) which is not as

    powerful.

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    Well this is all very

    interesting LOL



    But I'm hoping to hear some answers regarding my Chikara usage.

    I wonder why it's

    the only product I need for the results I'm looking for and why NPA even the smallest dose gives me negative

    reactions from women?

    Any veterans with ideas?

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    Easy peasy. I say -none

    overdose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Real FTR
    Easy

    peasy. I say -none overdose.
    2 Chikara squirts and 2 little dabs of NPA is overdosing?

    I was

    thinking maybe it was just that NPA doesn't mix with my body's own chemistry perhaps?

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