Dallas I'm told is the fast food capital of the world.Originally Posted by belgareth
DCW
Dallas I'm told is the fast food capital of the world.Originally Posted by belgareth
DCW
It wouldn't surprise me though
it should be the FRIED fast food capitol.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Toxicity is a very real issue in meat consumption, and im talking about toxins andOriginally Posted by belgareth
bacteria that live in the animal, this is a real issue, and the mad cow episode a few years ago was a wake up call
to the the world with regards to this. Most domesticated animals bred for meat consumption have high level of toxins
(especially in countries that have a low standard of health regulation in thier meat industries and a polluted
enviroment), and most game meats, ( dog, kangaroo, pheasent etc) have a high level of bad bacteria in the flesh of
the animal. Red meat is also catalist for alot of cancers, including colon cancer.
Sea creatures caught in
clean waters are clean to eat and have low toxins, heavy metals etc, again this depends on species and the age of
the animal. But most fishermen and consumers that have an eye for a good catch can pick out what is best in a fish
(im not talking frozen fish fingers or a fillet of fish from Mcdonalds)
I dont force my views on other
peoples eating habits, they do what they choose in thier kitchens and in thier countries, however im glad I live in
a country with fresh produce, and the cultural and the ideological view of the collective accepted cuisine reflects
my beliefs.
I follow a strict Mediteranean diet, which includes alot of vegetables, sea creatures, and little
red meat, and is reputed, (from scientific studies) to be the best diet for overall health.
I'm starting to have alot of
fondness for sushi.
It doesn't leave me bloated and is quite flavorful.
If I wasn't so lazy maybe Id try and
make it at home.
DCW
Sushi, and the Japanese cusine
in general has alot in common with Greek cuisine, Japanese eat alot of fresh fish and vegetables, so do Greeks. Only
potential problem I hear about with Japanese cuisine is that some fish species they use in thier meals are actually
poisinos, and it takes a master chef to cut up the fish/fleshy part which is safe, and I have heard this takes some
real skill to achieve.
Sushi is a standard amongst athletes and bodybuilders as a clean food with low fat,
only thing about fish which has its "downside" is that its energy value is not as high as red meat, and alot of
people are not tolerant of fish, in the stomach sense.
I bet some of the forum members here that advocate
eating anything that moves or walks, wouldnt think twice in eating Whale. Japanese catch/harpon Whale for
"scientific" purposes, but its funny how it somehow ends up in thier resturants for scientific reasons!?!
Most civilized countries have banned the killing of Whales for consumption etc, but its interesting the
Japanese continue to defy this international ban in the name of science, but in fact the end product ends up in
thier resturants as a rather expensive meal.
That may be so, but I'm not a fan of growth hormoneOriginally Posted by bronzie
laced beef , chicken and pork on my dinner table.
DCW
Yes,Originally Posted by bronzie
bacteria is an issue but not necessarily related to the specific animals you referred to. Pork can be bad because so
many diseases that like pork like man (Trichinosis comes to mind) but most that like cows don't like man. It is
dependent on the particular creature's biological make up and similarity to man's. Chicken meat and eggs are
famous for several types of food poisoning (ptomain and salmonella among others) and if well cooked are not a
problem unless the particular bacteria leave a toxin that doesn't breakdown under temperature extremes. Almost all
seafood has the same issue.
Assuming seafood is safe because it comes from the sea is dangerous. Dangerous
levels of mercury have been detected in deep sea fish and shellfish time and again. The seas are badly polluted,
worse in some areas than others. Fish with strange growths and tumors are rejected by inspectors all the time.
Similarily, many are rejected for high heavy metal levels. Bacteria is also an issue with fish.
I assume you can support those claims?Originally Posted by bronzie
Although I do wonder how they are related to your claims I was responding too.
You can support that, right?Originally Posted by bronzie
Links?
Originally Posted by bronzie
Last edited by belgareth; 08-16-2006 at 07:23 AM.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
DCW, after just visiting Memphis, I think Dallas has a serious contender, nothing
but fried food everywhere and tons of fat people.
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
I don't doubt certain MediteraneanThe Bronz states" I follow
a strict Mediteranean diet, which includes alot of vegetables, sea creatures, and little red meat, and is reputed,
(from scientific studies) to be the best diet for overall health.
cuisines are healthier than a typical North American diet. Monosaturated fats, red wine, less red meats, etc., have
obvious health benefits. Nevertheless, any scientific study that proclaims a particular Mediteranean cuisine to be
the "best diet for overall health" is ethnocentric at best and reads like pseudo-science from a woman's beauty
magazine. Incidentally there are scientific studies that demonstrate the health benefits of the Atkins diet and we
all know what happen to those poor folk...
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Does anyone here subscribe to the
eating-for-your-blood-type philosophy?
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
What is that?Originally Posted by Holmes
DCW
Basically a theory, started by
this guy, which posits that there is an optimal nutrition plan for each of the
blood types (i.e. a vegetarian diet isn't necessarily best suited for everyone's individual chemistry, type Os in
particular, etc. etc.).
I have no idea if it's a valid argument, but the idea is interesting. Someone
recently recommended that I read Eat Right 4 Your Type, hence my wondering if anyone else has either read the
book or followed the protocol...
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
"Does anyone here
subscribe to the eating-for-your-blood-type philosophy?"
Sue's cousin out in Seattle follows it religiously.
He's 62 and looks about 52 and in great shape. He's also good with the ladies and has a sorta cocky/funny
routine going, we watched him in action at a restaurant breakfast one morning.
One thing I tend to do is to
eat what I feel like eating. Somehow I think that my mind knows what my body needs and my appetite is what I'll
follow. Luckily, it's not often I crave a Big Mac. However, given my weed smokin ways - yeah, sure, I could
stand to lose a few pounds, all from one place too!!!
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
I think your body tells you
what it needs. Most people are not in contact with their bodies, they don't pay attention to what it tells them.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
On a side note,Originally Posted by belgareth
the pidgin english (PNG) name for white men is "long long pig"
just
thought I'd add that.
early 40's white male or or
Sort of subscribe to the
blood type thing- would layer on that historical diet of your bloodline.
Can't trust your body with regard to
processed foods- the corps have figured out food additives to make it want things that it shouldn't (high fructose
corn syrup for example). Otherwise, agree.
Belgareth, when im refering to
toxins in a particular animal, im talking about the toxins present in the animal while the animal is alive, not
toxins and bacteria that develop once the meat has been sitting around "dead" unrefrigerated on a hot day for a few
hours. A simple google search brings up literally thousands of web sites with reference to meats toxicity,
especially with regard to red meat. In all due respect, I understand why you feel the need for me to support my
claims, however, I come to this forum to chill out, and not write a term paper full of citations, quotes and
references.
Gegogi, I dont know what a North American diet is, but I pressume its one that is very high in
simple sugars, just going by north American popular culture, also North Americans do have a very high incidence of
diabetes and obesity and other diet related problems. As for the mediteranean diet bieng "ethnocentric", I dont
believe this to be true, Scientific Studies have proven the mediteranean diet to be probably the best diet for
overall health from any way you view it, bieng of Chinese origin, Australian or Thai, and the low incidence of diet
related problems and issues with people that follow this diet proves this.
As for this diet bieng as you put
it "pseudo-science from a woman's beauty magazine" or a fad is pure nonesense, this diet has been around for
thousands of years and is documented in respected science journals to be very good.
http://crime.about.com/b/a/256945.htm
See what happens when
you don't eat meat?!
one can only hope that he
gets to have a lot of meat in him in prison and plenty of protein shakes as well.
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
Lots of big talk there Bronz, but
where's these scientific studies you rage about? Mediteranean tourist brouchures? I've heard of many diet studies
and exactly zero have heralded the Mediteranean as the greatest among the world. Here's a study that indicates
Mediterranean promotes longevity and is an excellent and healthy choice. However it does not state that
Mediterranean is the best or better than other healthly
diets.
http://www.researchmatters.harvard.e...article_id=674
If your were
referring to the In the early 1960s World Health Organization study of the dietary habits of people from seven
different countries, Greece, Italy, Yugoslavia, Holland, Finland, USA and Japan, the data is now decades out of
date. Things have changed, especially in Japan. Plus there are many other disease causing factors they didn't
consider, e.g., industrial pollution, atomic fallout, etc. In the 50s and early 60s Japan suffered from a terrible
tuberculosis pandemic.
The nation with the highest average longevity is now Japan (81.15 years), not Italy
(79.25) or the Greek Isles (78.6). And this is despite a terrible trend towards tobacco use. What the hell, even
Australia does better than most Mediteranean countries at 80 years. Of course it is not as simple as a good diet as
lifestyle and medical care comes into play. However the typical Japan diet of low fat proteins, lots of veggies and
rice is largely credited for their longevity. And these trends have been observed in studies at the University of
Hawaii of American-Japanese living in Hawaii and the West Coast. They live longer than most other ethnic groups
mainly because of their diet. Within the Japanese, Okinawans live the longest: There are about 35 centenarians for
every 100,000 people, a rate that is three times higher than in Europe or the United States.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
That seems arguable, too,
from what I can Google - although I suppose anything's arguable. But, for
example:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=961690 &dopt=Abstract
I
read an article the other day theorizing that the differences are also because people in the US work longer hours
and take fewer vacations than anyone else in the world, plus the value in this country of individualism vs the more
traditional model of working well as a team places more stress on
the worker. The idea of success as an individual
is increasingly taking hold in Asian countries as they push for greater productivity.
I would bet it's not
just diet. It's lifestyle. Any culture is less stressed and takes more vacation time than the US. No surprise we
die faster.
I mostly agree with you, however (there's always a "however, isn't there?), IOriginally Posted by The Real FTR
think that the amount of "crap" in our diets that other countries won't allow is a major contributor. Look at all
of the High Fructose corn syrup in things (KFC used to give honey, now it's "honey sauce", first ingredient listed?
High Fructose corn syrup, then honey!)
Then there are trans fats in everything, worse than saturated fat found in
whole milk and red meat. Now the "fresh salmon" lists red dye added!
Blech!!! (where's that pukeing
"smilie" when you need it?)
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
That's true about the
sugars and the hydrogenated fats.
Food coloring in salmon is a new one on me. Bad news!
it is unclear to me whether it is the origin of the fat itself, or the fat how it is modified by
high heat cooking... one cannot but notice that among women especially the eating of excess fried fatty foods lead
to an uneaven, lumpy face... this "rotting orange" texture is seen over and over again where there is a high (long
chain, as with pork or marbled beef, especially sausage eating people) heat, fat fried in fat, dense meat eating....
so many otherwise beautiful women have been rendered puffy and disfigured... sometimes I ask them, avoiding the
subject of their appearance, and they often tell me that they are "addicted to the taste" of fatty meats prepared in
this way, greasy ribs, kielbasa, and such... where, on the other hand, people who eat diets rich in seed oils, most
particularly olive, AND (critical point) avoid too much fried fatty meat often have a firm, youthful, and radiant
complexion that shiows good underlying circulation in the capillaries.... often too, you seen elderly people in the
American midwest who have high burned or heated fat diets, and their skin has a yellowish, near waxy pallor of
capillaries that can barely deliver any oxygen or remove any metabolic wastes... this accumulation of metabolic
wastes which leads to a waxy yellowing of the skin can be seen in extreme form with end stage cancers as the tumors
throw off more waste than the liver can detoxify... often the patient actually expires from "tumor poisoning"...
these observations if you are in a position to see them for yourself are sobering indeed... my diet now is a high
proportion of yoghurt, olive oil, beans, salads, and berries....
Thic, actually and most surprisingly, is a case where the food coloring in question has beenOriginally Posted by The Real FTR
discover to be especially GOOD for you... this coloring agent is astaxanthin , a nontoxic retinoid
derived from algae, that appears to be remarkably protective of human tissue, and lowers free radical injury,
arthritic swelling, and age related macular degeneration.... so much so that I take a 4 milligram capsule of very
fishy smelling Astaxanthin every night and have less stiffness in the morning when I wake up... in nature it is what
makes lobsters red too...
umm, you do mean creaky bones ratherOriginally Posted by surfs_up
then "morning wood" ?
early 40's white male or or
more than fine.... usually have sex with two women sequentially... wear the poor things out ya know... not bad for
a 50 year old guy.... supposedly penile circulation is a major indicator of vascular health... and that's curuious
because my blood chemistry is bad, cholesterols and triglycerides, LDL/HDL ratios.... so they CAT scanned my heart
to see if there was a physical risk in my coronary arteries and nothing out of the ordinary... so the doc is
wondering... I ought to be manifesting cardiovascular issues with my lousy blood chems but I'm not.... OTOH, I
consume a fair amount of high quality olive oil daily, 15 milligrams of Lycopene twice daily, that's the red stuff
in tomatos, about the equivalent of eating 6 ripe tomatos per day (lycopene is especially protective of the prostate
gland, and my PSA scores are way low and NO prostate enlargement, also very unusual for a 50 year old male, and now
they think lycopene also protects the vascular system.... eat your damn tomatos willya ? Or take 30 mg. of lycopene
daily in two doses..)... a mixed tocopherol that is high in Gamma-Tocopherol... and 4 mg. of Astaxanthin..... really
felt that in my hands and knees when I first wake up....
Do you take (or have you taken)
CoQ10?
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
In addition to virgin olive oil,
virgin coconut oil aids metabolism greatly (immediately too). Top 3 oils : olive, coconut, palm... although I have
no idea on how to choose premium olive oil. Any tips?
Been having good "perk me ups" with combo of
Gynostemma, Pregnenolone, Cordyceps & Schisandra. I've gone through numerous brain & CNS herbs, exhausted many of
them throughout the years (reishi, ginseng, royal jelly etc). One good way is to cycle the supplements every 2
days.
Gynostemma acts similarly to Panax Ginseng, there are more saponins in Gynostemma. Cordyceps for
sustaining libido, non-taxing & without the aggressiveness of Tongkat Ali (testosterone aid). Schisandra for the
added genital sensitivity, extra elixir juices & longer orgasms, works on females too.
A chi discipline (qi
gong, tai chi, specialised yoga) helps greatly with libido, erection & general well being. A nice way to de-stress
from the strains of the day.
Tomatoes - Lycopene... any recommended brands? Is it a standardised extract?
Thanks.
i2w
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