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    Hi,
    Has anyone

    noticed an aggressive reaction from other males from SoE? I wore an entire gel pack to a dinner party and a very

    good friend of mine who I haven't seen in almost a year seemed to react aggressively. He was making rude jokes

    that are out of character for him and challenged me to an arm wrestle after a few drinks. Luckily I handled him!

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    I am female and I

    noticed more aggression and competiveness in the females I work with when I wore this to work. I get better results

    around the females when I wear the NOL products and anything with Cops.
    LWQ

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    Default just me but

    i have noticed only great

    stuff with the SOE/w. talkitiveness, happy go lucky attitudes.... if the guys version has 'rone, and i have other

    products with 'rone in it that make me feel great, i assume the SOE for guys would hit me the same. no adverse

    reactions from company.

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    reference to the aggresiveness in males with soe. I myself have noticed very little if any such behavior in males.

    Infact i once went to a job interview and put 2.5 gel packs on . And the male who was interviewing me was very

    friendly I ended getting the job.

    Maybe he had on off day, or your phisiology combined with soe on this

    particular instance prompted such a response. If you get this response on more than 1 occasion with soe, but only

    when using soe stand alone . Please report it on the site. As i am very interested and i am sure other avid soe uses

    are as well. Please not amount used , situation that prompted this response also. Good luck.

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    knowledge enriches ones soul"

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    I'd bet two bits it wasn't the

    SOE. Fitguy, are you fit? If so, that'll do it fer true too! Alocholics or men filled with a tad bit too

    much alochol have a tendency to wanna arm wrestle with the fitest of the fittest ... unhu!
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    I am female and I noticed

    more aggression and competiveness in the females I work with when I wore this to work. I get better results around

    the females when I wear the NOL products and anything with Cops.
    SOE is mostly 'nol, 4 part androstenol

    to 1 parts androsterone to be exact.

    I've never experienced aggressive behavior while wearing SOE. I have

    endured massive motormouth from strangers while dosed with SOE.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    I haven't notice aggression

    while wearing SOE but I caution that it contains rone which can cause all sorts of odd behavior. Rone is the most

    unpredictable of the mones in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitehall
    I haven't notice

    aggression while wearing SOE but I caution that it contains rone which can cause all sorts of odd behavior. Rone is

    the most unpredictable of the mones in my experience.
    that is a real interesting statement, can you

    elaborate for me, whitehall? what kind of results have you gotten with rone, and what are some of the unpredictable

    things? thanks!

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    For instance, my significant

    other response well to NPA and staight nol but add a touch of rone, as in AE and she gets upset.

    SOE

    doesn't bother her much but add none to the rone and it negatizes her.

    Rone also seems to change on certain

    areas of my skin very quickly.

    The are other stories of my own and from others that support my assertion. Do

    a search and see.

    Bottom line, is that I use products with substantial rone with extra care.

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    I've worn 8-10" of SOE unscented

    and haven't noticed any aggression. Not sure how that compares to a gelpack in doseage though.

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    I get no respect from SOE

    espcially around my family and from bosses at work.

    It does give me chatty hits. But who cares if a girl

    wants to babble a lot to your about her rotten boyfriend, who she chooses to screw over you anyways!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornyMan
    I get no respect

    from SOE espcially around my family and from bosses at work.

    It does give me chatty hits. But who cares if a

    girl wants to babble a lot to your about her rotten boyfriend, who she chooses to screw over you

    anyways!

    im guessing the guy shes choosing to screw over you might actually care/listen to what

    she says, as opposed to say, someone who wants her to just shut up and do him? hmm?
    sorry, that was left kind of

    open..... SOE for men used properly would not discourage respect, even if for you it doesnt encourage it... have you

    tried TE or NPA? they may get you less talk more action

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lor

    im guessing

    the guy shes choosing to screw over you might actually care/listen to what she says, as opposed to say, someone who

    wants her to just shut up and do him? hmm?
    sorry, that was left kind of open..... SOE for men used properly would

    not discourage respect, even if for you it doesnt encourage it... have you tried TE or NPA? they may get you less

    talk more action



    My guess is that if a chick is complaining to a guy about her

    "ROTTEN" boyfriend, then the boyfriend is the one who thinks her mouth is good for only one thing. But she thinks

    she loves the badboy, so she "sucks" it up. I really doubt the "ROTTEN" boyfriend does a whole hell of much

    listening.
    Last edited by tounge; 07-17-2006 at 09:31 PM.

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    Wink read posts carefully

    LOL, take into

    consideration SHE isnt the one that called him rotten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lor
    LOL, take into

    consideration SHE isnt the one that called him rotten!


    True. But then she's usually

    the last to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge
    True. But then

    she's usually the last to know.
    awww, you dont give women much credit,huh. have you recently broken up

    with someone? my last 2 experiences werent great ones but i still think they are great people ... im not sure what

    they are saying about me,lol
    i dont subscribe to people "not knowing" whats going on, it takes 10 seconds to

    take a look

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    Tounge is our lead cynic. Until

    he joined the forum I thought I had cynicism down pat but he makes me look like an optimist. He means well though

    and usually has a valid point. That's the biggest trouble with cynicism, distinguishing it from simple truth.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lor
    awww, you dont give

    women much credit,huh. have you recently broken up with someone? my last 2 experiences werent great ones but i still

    think they are great people ... im not sure what they are saying about me,lol
    i dont subscribe to people

    "not knowing" whats going on, it takes 10 seconds to take a look



    Not at all. I

    give women quite a bit of credit. It's the seduction community guys that seem to think you're all alike. I was

    merely pointing out that if a women is complaining to a guy friend about her rotten BF, it doesn't mean she is

    going to take up with you. As a man you never want to be a women's girlfriend, unless you are comfotable with that

    and only that. Of coure there are always exceptions.


    And I think that way too many people do not know,

    10 seconds or not. They either don't want to see the truth or they can't see the forest through the trees or

    whatever. Lust is usually blind.

    And FWIW, I get along fabulously with most women. My problem is trying to

    figure which one to settle with. I base my success on dealing in reality, when it comes to women or humans in

    general.

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    It's that "Men are from Mars,

    Women from Venus" stuff again. Women find bonding in complaining, men in action.

    For a guy on the make,

    never sitting still for a woman crying in her beer (or Cosmo) is good policy. That goes double for her complaining

    about some other guy who's her husband or boyfriend. The solution is obvious to you both - move on or shut

    up.

    That's one of the downsides of SOE - people pouring out their hearts to you. Like that Jerry Garcia

    song - "Don't tell me your troubles, got enough of my own. Drink up and go home."

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    As a man you never want to

    be a women's girlfriend, unless you are comfotable with that and only that. Of coure there are always exceptions.
    Oddly I only found that to be true when I was young 'n dumb. Later in life I've managed to be a

    "girlfriend" to lots of women and got laid plenty because of it. Apparently a man willing to listen can be a strong

    attraction for women with "rotten" BF or husbands. A man willing to listen creates a level of intimacy many women

    rarely experience. Trouble is they get really attached to you and this leads to complications.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    everyone here still assumes she was

    the one calling the boyfriend rotten.
    It does give me chatty hits. But who cares if a girl wants to

    babble a lot to your about her rotten boyfriend, who she chooses to screw over you anyways!
    that was my

    only point.
    tounge,
    are you saying thats what you are looking for... someone to settle with? i find that rare on

    this particular forum, but that does explain cynicism, when anyone looks for anything meaningful, the act of not

    wanting to make a mistake amplifies the positive/negative.
    Apparently a man willing to listen can be a

    strong attraction for women with "rotten" BF or husbands. A man willing to listen creates a level of intimacy many

    women rarely experience. Trouble is they get really attached to you and this leads to complications.
    got

    to agree with that... fling with cling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lor
    everyone here still

    assumes she was the one calling the boyfriend rotten.

    that was my only point.
    tounge,
    are you saying

    thats what you are looking for... someone to settle with? i find that rare on this particular forum, but that does

    explain cynicism, when anyone looks for anything meaningful, the act of not wanting to make a mistake amplifies the

    positive/negative.

    got to agree with that... fling with cling


    Lor, Hornydude

    was talking in general, and not about a specific woman. So there was no assumption on my part.

    No, I'm not

    looking to settle, it's just nice to have options, but God help me if I ever have to make a decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    Oddly I only found that to be true when I was young 'n dumb. Later in life I've managed to be a

    "girlfriend" to lots of women and got laid plenty because of it. Apparently a man willing to listen can be a strong

    attraction for women with "rotten" BF or husbands. A man willing to listen creates a level of intimacy many women

    rarely experience. Trouble is they get really attached to you and this leads to complications.
    Yes i find that a great level of intimacy can be created by listening to a woman, true, and

    they may become attached or dependant upon our emotional support which is a good thing if we can help them in their

    crises situation, sometimes this may cause them to want to open up more in a submissive attitude towards us, i know

    that by partaking of their desirable fruit it may not be the best thing for their overall healing especially when we

    have a steady girlfriend or want to prowl around , yes the bonds we make and break this is very heavy subject

    considering in the long run it is all really spiritual and eternal material matter that is

    involved
    . loveyouall, we are all carnal and have fallen into temptation.


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    My point was that a woman who

    complains about her boyfriend or troubles sees you as a shoulder to cry on. A friend whose really her outlet of

    whining until she finds another man who will do her right.

    I don't want to take on the role of a

    supplicator. I want to be the man DOING the woman. The man she DOES also communicate with but on a respectful

    level of the man not on a whining level.

    Otherwise she'll see you as a friend even if its a date. You'll

    end up talking about her boyfriend instead about the two of you.

    I say on a date keep the subject material

    90% related to the connection between the two of you. Leave her boyfriend whose banging her and getting her to pay

    for half the rent out of the picture.

    Nice guy I wanna be, but at times when communicating with a woman you

    gotta have some backbone. Keep steering the conversation away from others in your life and towards the romance

    thats building between the two of you. Get the sparks going instead of the tears.

    Why is it that the rotten

    boyfriend whose banging her and getting her to pay for half or more of everything (he may even be jobless) succeeds

    at getting her respect, and the supplicator who is always nice, never leads conversation but is only a listerner and

    spends thousands of dollars on her still doesn't get her respect not into her pants. In fact she probably says "

    your a great guy but lets just be friends"

    This is why I think SOE sucks for dates. Its best for social

    events when your not interested in romantic involvement. SOE gets woman to take control by talking their ears off.

    NPA on the other hand makes you more of a man and turns up the sexual chemistry. If you are with a confident

    beautiful woman she'll probably still love to talk but heed you as an alpha not an alphafa.

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    yes for shure a date is a

    date, the opening up of a beautifull new adventure into the life of another unique being, treasure the shining

    moments, sometimes it passes all to fast.

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