The Short Fat Guy Experiment

[gabe1970]

I've been using 1

drop of A314 and a 1/2 drop / itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny drop of NPA everyday for the last part of this

week.

I apply the A314 on the back of my neck and the NPA in my pubic hair, about 1 hour before I start work. I

noticed no negative hits. On the other hand, any positive hits that I received were too subtle for me to notice and

my bath towels REALLY stink.

Training in an alpha-male-centric department this week. Will be dropping the

NPA for the week and ramping up to 2 drops of A314 and two sprays of Instant S. Wish I could afford some WAGG for

next weeks rotation though, since I'll be working with 99% women.

[gabe1970]

...any positive

hits that I received were too subtle for me to notice and my bath towels REALLY stink.

I take

that back - all anyone wanted to talk to me about on thursday beginning with lunch and continuing on until 5pm --

was sex.

[Holmes]

Does Instant Shine work?

[The Real FTR]

Hey - I was just reading

through this thread and one thing caught my eye - maybe you want to ease up on the garlic and cumin in your diet?

Both smells tend to linger...

[gabe1970]

Does Instant

Shine work?

Not sure yet. If it does work, it's definitely not as dramatic as some say it is... at

least not for me.

[gabe1970]

Hey - I was

just reading through this thread and one thing caught my eye - maybe you want to ease up on the garlic and cumin in

your diet? Both smells tend to linger...

Maybe I should, but I won't. My diet is extremely

low-fat and otherwise bland. Without a lot of intense spices, it would be intolerable.

[tounge]

Not sure yet. If

it does work, it's definitely not as dramatic as some say it is... at least not for me.

Hasn't done squat for me either,and I'm on a second bottle, since the creator thought my fisrt bottle

may have been bad.

[The Real FTR]

Maybe I

should, but I won't. My diet is extremely low-fat and otherwise bland. Without a lot of intense spices, it

would be intolerable.

Garlic's good for you, too, so ... nevermind, then!

[gabe1970]

Hasn't done

squat for me either,and I'm on a second bottle, since the creator thought my fisrt bottle may have been

bad.

I was told it doesn't work for everyone and I might be overstimulated from taking all of the

nutritional supplements I was on. Now I'm not taking stimulants, it still apparently does not work for me, and I

seem to get a depressive effect after wearing IS all day. Seeing as how I get that depressive, downer effect after

almost 12 hours, I might actually be experiencing the mood-altering effects during the day, but I just don't

realize it.

Today I wore two sprays on my neck along with two drops of A314. Nothing dramatic happened like

being waited on hand and foot, as some people describe. Tomorrow I'm applying two additional sprays &

drops, to my forearms.

[gabe1970]

Garlic's

good for you, too, so ... nevermind, then!

Yeah, and I can't seem to get enough of it. I have to

seriously control myself when it comes to things like garlic and red pepper, because I have a high tolerance for

hot and spicy foods... i'm an addict. I also eat Cinnamon on my high-fiber breakfast cereal for its effects

on blood pressure. I will be adding Ginger to my meals too, now, because it is supposed to have a natural

anti-inflammatory effect. I may not eat enough of it to have an impact, but I will be adding it nonetheless since

there is no harm in it.

[tounge]

I was told it

doesn't work for everyone and I might be overstimulated from taking all of the nutritional supplements I was on.

Now I'm not taking stimulants, it still apparently does not work for me, and I seem to get a depressive effect

after wearing IS all day. Seeing as how I get that depressive, downer effect after almost 12 hours, I might

actually be experiencing the mood-altering effects during the day, but I just don't realize it.

Today I

wore two sprays on my neck along with two drops of A314. Nothing dramatic happened like being waited on hand and

foot, as some people describe. Tomorrow I'm applying two additional sprays & drops, to my

forearms.

Interesting. I find that IS gets me into a downer mood also after about 3

hours. And I'm not usually prone to depression. For what it's worth,WAGG does the same exact thing to me. The only

difference with the WAGG is that normal hetro males get a little to close to me for comfort. I noticed that somewhat

when I tried Copulins for an extende period of time also.

[gabe1970]

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm

feeling "down" right now and I don't think there's a way around that side effect, so I will probably skip it

tomorrow and just go with 4 drops of A314. I'm going to be working with at least half a dozen "high value" people

tomorrow, so maybe A314 will give me a little bit of an edge in impressing them or at least keeping them off my

back.

And I guess I won't be buying WAGG after all.

[tounge]

Yeah, I'm with

you. I'm feeling "down" right now and I don't think there's a way around that side effect, so I will probably

skip it tomorrow and just go with 4 drops of A314. I'm going to be working with at least half a dozen "high value"

people tomorrow, so maybe A314 will give me a little bit of an edge in impressing them or at least keeping them off

my back.

And I guess I won't be buying WAGG after all.

I'd back down to 2 drops or

"maybe" 3 at the most of the A314. Too much of this product by itself can also bring up unforseen problems. The

theory that less is more is usualy very true with almost all mones. There is however always an exception to the

rule. But it's always an exception. Now I have had some good results with 2 drops of A314 and 2 drops of AE. And

also with 2 drops A314 and one to two small sprays of the Edge. Originaly, that was the selling point of A314 by the

lady that works for the people that produce it.

[gabe1970]

I'd back down to

2 drops or "maybe" 3 at the most of the A314. Too much of this product by itself can also bring up unforseen

problems.

Like what kind of unforseen problems?

I wore A314 by itself today, 4 drops, noticed

nothing out of the ordinary at work.

[gabe1970]

I think the A314 doesn't do much for me because I'm pretty calm and confident already. Not quite

"James Bond" material, but I work at one of the top healthcare institutions in the world, and they repeatedly

hammer into us that we work there because we are "the best of the best and the brightest of the bright" and we "are

expected to act like it".

Being presented with high expectations like that does many things to you, and

one of those things is to make everyone do what they're expected to do and act how they're expected to - so I

already act like I'm a "high-value" person because, at least at work, I am.

I'm

starting to realize that I don't have a use for pheromones in this environment and given my current situation(s).

I'm not ready to start dating yet - physically, financially, or emotionally. I will probably try more sexual

pheromones in the future - but I think I need to focus on my fitness and lifestyle before I head in that

direction.

I don't think you can get an "amazing" woman unless you're an "amazing" man - and I'm

not there yet. So I don't think I'll be buying any more pheromones or conducting any more experiments for at

least the rest of the year. I'll hold on to A314 and NPA, but I have already promised to give IH and IS to

someone I consider to be a good friend.

I'll be lurking in the background, so PM or IM me if you'd

like.

BFN

[belgareth]

I think the

A314 doesn't do much for me because I'm pretty calm and confident already. Not quite "James Bond" material, but I

work at one of the top healthcare institutions in the world, and they repeatedly hammer into us that we work there

because we are "the best of the best and the brightest of the bright" and we "are expected to act like it".



Being presented with high expectations like that does many things to you, and one of those things is to make

everyone do what they're expected to do and act how they're expected to - so I already act like I'm a

"high-value" person because, at least at work, I am.

BFN

That's an

interesting concept. If anybody else has some thought on that idea, I'd love to hear it. A314 does nothing for me

and that might explain why, my level of assurance in myself.

[gabe1970]

That's an

interesting concept. If anybody else has some thought on that idea, I'd love to hear it. A314 does nothing for me

and that might explain why, my level of assurance in myself.

I just wanted to note that this idea first

ocurred to me when I noticed that some of the people who reported the more astounding, extraordinary results were

either younger, or less established people who were not already accustomed to being treated with respect, dignity or

as being "high-value" on a daily basis. My first thought was "Damn, that's not right. People shouldn't be

treated like that, heck, I'm treated betterthan that." and then "Whoa! WAIT a minute ..."

[tounge]

I concur completely. My biggest

success with A314 mixes was with people who really didn't know me well. But, of people who do know me, I am pretty

well respected. I do think that the A314 does help tone down the none though.

I agree with your assement of

yourself Gabe. In order to attract an exceptional woman you are going to have to be an exceptional man. And the best

way for that to happen is to get in good shape and be a well rounded person.

I really think that there comes

a point where pheromones can become a waste of money. I think people in sales positions can find pheromones very

helpful, if they find the right mix, but as far as becoming a cassanova with them, there are way too many variables

for them to offer a great degree of consistancy. They also can become addictive and some people can't feel

confident without their mone fix.

[gabe1970]

I agree with

your assement of yourself Gabe.

HahahahahHHHHahha OMG I don't know how i feel about

that!

I really think that there comes a point where pheromones can become a waste of money.

Right now that's where I'm at. I've concluded that pheromones generally work to some extent, but I'm

not in a position to apply them so it would be a waste of money for me to purchase them. So I'm basically going to

work hard to put myself in that position, and when I'm ready, I know I can use pheromones for a little adult fun.

I've been tap-dancing around that idea for awhile, but now I've come full circle. My professional and social

life is allright the way it is -- pheromone use would be redundant.

I've got to settle my divorce first, then

I'll take care of my finances, and all the while I'll continue to get in shape so that I can enjoy the activities

I love to do. AFTER all of those things, then I'll think about dating... and using pheromones for that attracting

women.
(But I'll try to stick with simple combinations or all-in-one products.)

I think people

in sales positions can find pheromones very helpful, if they find the right mix,

Definitely.

but as far as becoming a cassanova with them, there are way too many variables for them to offer a

great degree of consistancy.

I think you're right for the most part. But I also think that NPA,

specifically, is magnetic towards strong "alpha" type females and repulsive towards others. That has been my

experience, and I hope to put that theory to test in my next "experiment."

They also can become

addictive and some people can't feel confident without their mone fix.

I can't relate, but I can imagine

how that's possible.

[BizmanJoe]

BTW, I know what you mean

about NPA: I have 2 bottles of NPA I haven't even touched - it's too strong for me... perhaps, I should try using

a diluted mix (with WAGG and SOE) and see if the results would be similar to what I experienced on Andro 4.2 (with

WAGG and SOE).

[gabe1970]

BTW,

I know what you mean about NPA: I have 2 bottles of NPA I haven't even touched - it's too strong for me...

I don't think it's too strong for ME. I love the stuff. I'll be blunt: I think it's too strong for

weak women.

Redhot medical sales chicks were drawn to me while I wore it. I'm talking wealthy, classy,

intelligent and sexy 8's and 9's on a scale of 1-10. (with 10 being reserved for movie stars, porn stars and

supermodels)

And I'd be a straight up "5" on that scale, BTW... on a good day.

NPA

should be renamed "NBGAF"... New Beer Goggles for Alpha Females.

[tounge]

I don't think

it's too strong for ME. I love the stuff. I'll be blunt: I think it's too strong for weak women.

Redhot

medical sales chicks were drawn to me while I wore it. I'm talking wealthy, classy, intelligent and sexy 8's and

9's on a scale of 1-10. (with 10 being reserved for movie stars, porn stars and supermodels)

And

I'd be a straight up "5" on that scale, BTW... on a good day.

NPA should be renamed "NBGAF"...

New Beer Goggles for Alpha Females.

Again, I concur with you 100%. Npa and The Edge

are products for men and not for boys. Gabe I don't know if you work at John Hopkins or not, but it seems that the

Edge would be interesting to use at a place like that.

[gabe1970]

Gabe I don't

know if you work at John Hopkins or not, but it seems that the Edge would be interesting to use at a place like

that.

John Hopkins! Sheesh. Talk about elitist.

I'd prefer to keep my exact location and

employer private...... but I will admit that it is a place like that.

Why, specifically, did you

mention "The Edge" - what kind of results have you had with it and at what doses?

[tounge]

John Hopkins!

Sheesh. Talk about elitist.

I'd prefer to keep my exact location and employer private......

but I will admit that it is a place like that.

Why, specifically, did you mention "The Edge" - what

kind of results have you had with it and at what doses?

I used Hopkins as an example,

because that is the exact type of place that you are going to find many high status, highpowered, egotitical and

extremely confident males. Not the phony balony type. The people who make it in aplace like that have accomplished

and therefore have a solid foundation to develope a genuine cofidence.

Now I don't know if you have the Edge

or not, But one spray of it to your bare chest and one drop of A314 to the back of your neck and one just below your

adam's apple, covered by a quality cologne,if used for a couple of weeks could be beneficial to you.

[gabe1970]

I used Hopkins as

an example, because that is the exact type of place that you are going to find many high status, highpowered,

egotitical and extremely confident males... don't know if you have the Edge or not...if used for a couple of weeks

could be beneficial to you.

My facility is in the same league as Hopkins. I don't have the edge but

would be interested in knowing the exact kinds of effects you're refering to.

[tounge]

Gabe,then use just two dabs of NPA

with the plastic insert in. Put one dab on on your left breast area and one on your right. Use the A314, like I told

you. Get a couple of qaulity frags that you can cover and also be appropiate for your work place. I'm thinking

along the lines of Creed's Green Irish Tweed and Versace. You will want to switch back and forth daily. Give it at

least two weeks to a month. Try to journal anything unusual. Also on your days off don't use the mones.

I'm

not going to tell you what to expect,as to avoid putting preconcieved notions into your head, but I really believe

you will see some differences. And make sure you continue to workout and watch that diet, as this will contribute to

the new image you will soon be portraying.

[gabe1970]

I might just give that a shot.

Thanks.

[gabe1970]

Today was very

strange.

I worked in an operating room kind of an environment today, had to cover everything except my forearms.

I applied 2 drops of A314 - one to each sideburn... and I added two sprays of IS to my surgical cap. Also sprayed

the hat with a small spray of Armani Black. People are not supposed to wear fragrances in

this environment, but i did it anyhow. And I'll do it again tomorrow along with some NPA!

Nurses literally

could not keep their hands off of me today, all day. Lost count of the number of women and times I was touched for

absolutely no reason, during small talk and during professional consultations. This is only my third day in this

environment - I received two backrubs, 5 elbow squeezes, a "lingering hand on the back" and had the distinct

sensation that one hot nurse was eyeballing - and contemplating grabbing - my butt.

Very strange.

[Holmes]

And I'd be a straight up "5" on that scale, BTW... on a good day.

Is it

possible that you're lowballing there?

[gabe1970]

Is it possible

that you're lowballing there?

I suppose it's possible, but think it's a safe assumption.