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    Default Very Promising New Product

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    Folks,

    We just took delivery of a test batch of a couple of new products (one for men; one for women). They

    are both scented/cologne type products, but they have a VERY unique pheromone formula which the company totally

    discloses. The packaging/marketing spiel is kind of hokey, but the fragrances are not bad. The girls in the

    warehouse all like the women's version. A little pricey maybe, but otherwise well-worth a try.

    I'll have

    it up in a jiffy here.

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    Hi Bruce!

    Would you please

    be so kind to elaborate why this is unique and interesting compared to all the other products that you

    have?


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    Here is the

    formula:

    Copulins
    Vomeropherin
    Estratetraniol
    TRP2 (Axillary Secretions)
    V1R/V2R (Vaginal Alipathic

    Acids)

    Now that looks like the ultimate formula for a women's product, but they tell me it is the same formula

    in both the men's and women's products. If you read their blurb on the male product, you can see their angle on

    that, similar to the rationale behind Realm.

    Men's

    product:
    http://www.love-scent.com/product_in...roducts_id/109

    Women's:
    http://www.love-s<br /> <br /> cen...roducts_id/110

    $10. off this week.

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    Ooops. Found a little typo:
    If

    THAT doesn't have your man feeling your oats, I will be very surprised!

    Gotta fix that.
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    Gfunk,

    Check the

    formula:
    Copulins
    Vomeropherin
    Estratetraniol
    TRP2 (Axillary Secretions)
    V1R/V2R (Vaginal Alipathic

    Acids)

    Cooter formula 999 ala estratetra. Other than EW and women's PMax there is not much on the market with

    a convincing copulins thing happening. So, unless this is all BS, this takes that to a whole new level.
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    Interesting formula, the product

    description could be a little more clear though, it doesnt sound like its been written by someone who speaks english

    as a first language. This "Dr" may be from a non-english speaking country, or his PR department

    perhaps.

    Would be interesting to try though, I wonder if there is any .none or .nol in the product? Axillary

    Secretions?? Where is that in the body? Anyone know? Under the arm pit?

    It does sound like a Realm type

    product..

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    There are no "andro" pheromones at

    all. They don't believe in them for some reason. Their main man over there told me he is delivering a

    presentation of his "alipathic" secretions vs. andro pheromones at some sort of convention. I'll try to get

    details and I will ask him about these "secretions". I assumed they were more stuff from down yonder, but now that

    you point that out, probably not.

    Thanks,
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    The axillary lymph node is

    located in the armpit of humans, and in females, axillary secretrions are part of what influence the menstrual

    cycle.

    Women exposed to male axillary secretions will have considerably lowered stress levels, and will generally

    feel better about themselves and more relaxed.

    I honestly am at a loss as to what benefits they are looking to

    achieve using female axillary secretions, as in all my years of medical study, the only thing I DO know, is they can

    blooming well lengthen our menstrual cycle by several days - which is defnitely not something I want, for

    sure.

    This one will have me leafing through medical research material when I hit the Uni later today, as I have

    two free periods before teaching. I assume there must be some benefits for us gals, but whereas the male > female

    secretory exposure is clear-cut, the female > male secretrory exposure is very grey..

    I've just purchased the

    female version "Mistress," Bruce, so will report on the results once I get a chance to put it into play.

    Ail

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    Awesome stuff Bruce!

    I was

    thinking maybe yet another "andro" formula product but this is just great news! Thanks for keep on bringing us only

    the very best products and I look forward with anticipation to hear the reports coming in..

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    The Master Pheromones for Men is

    soooo going to get one killed by their gf. Although for competitions sake or females it would look like THE

    product to use. Impressive.

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    Master and Mistress, a

    fragrance line that seeks to approximate your own pheromones, making you irresistable to yourself, the objects of

    your affection, and anything with humping capabilities as defined by the U.N. Council of Mating Animals


    who dosn't want that right?

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    Bruce, I'm gonna broke with all

    these exciting new releases. May have to wait until next week to order this. But I'm definitly looking foward to

    trying this out. Bruce = Summer Santa!

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    Anyone get a sniff of Master or

    Mistress yet?
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    "Here is what the

    manufacturer has to say about the stuff:
    "Master Functional Pheromone™ was formulated to cut into the mans strong

    external defenses to prevent his carnal feelings from rising so easily to the surface. With top notes of Vanilla and

    Sandalwood, The Master’™ human derived pheromones will quickly enter his sensory barrier and almost immediately

    elevate his mood, enhance his arousal, confidence and attitude. What is sexually attractive about a man after all?

    It is his confidence, posture and demeanor and this is what attracts the female of our species! Let Master™ take you

    the next step when considering a romantic relationship with someone new or someone you care deeply about. Let Master

    Functional Pheromones give you that edge to create the perfect moment to attract a woman and transport you to a time

    when courtship, romance and sexual tension were only the beginning in a long and sensual dance until your partner

    will let you take her to her fantasy!""

    Well, I can say that I don't like the manufacturer's words... a big

    mistake when using pheromones is using them to gain confidence or other internal strengths. Its best to use them for

    their effects on other people. The mones are useless if you're in the wrong frame of mind. However, I've heard

    some evidence that girls can smell things like copulins on guys and are attracted to it because it signals that the

    guy is successful with women. This would help explain why guys often get more girls when they have a girlfriend.

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    I have to dissagree. If they

    elevate your mood and/or do something positive to you, what's wrong about that? The vibe a man gives off is much

    more powerfull than his mones. A confident guy in the right mood is much more successful than a man who's not and

    just has some NPA on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatal
    I have to dissagree.

    If they elevate your mood and/or do something positive to you, what's wrong about that? The vibe a man gives off is

    much more powerfull than his mones. A confident guy in the right mood is much more successful than a man who's not

    and just has some NPA on.
    Yeah. Realm/M operates under the same concept with estratetraenol, and I've

    had a lot of success with it. Pheromones serve a whole lot of other purposes other than signalling a "you make me

    horny" response in women. Feeling more upbeat and confident internally, can make you look more attractive

    externally. Mones will not create a false sense of confidence, however some mones (rone, taa) can facilitate the

    projection of a confident image....making you more attractive overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle4Hire
    "Here is what

    the manufacturer has to say about the stuff:
    "Master Functional Pheromone™ was formulated to cut into the mans

    strong external defenses to prevent his carnal feelings from rising so easily to the surface. With top notes of

    Vanilla and Sandalwood, The Master’™ human derived pheromones will quickly enter his sensory barrier and almost

    immediately elevate his mood, enhance his arousal, confidence and attitude. What is sexually attractive about a man

    after all? It is his confidence, posture and demeanor and this is what attracts the female of our species! Let

    Master™ take you the next step when considering a romantic relationship with someone new or someone you care deeply

    about. Let Master Functional Pheromones give you that edge to create the perfect moment to attract a woman and

    transport you to a time when courtship, romance and sexual tension were only the beginning in a long and sensual

    dance until your partner will let you take her to her fantasy!""

    Well, I can say that I don't like the

    manufacturer's words... a big mistake when using pheromones is using them to gain confidence or other internal

    strengths. Its best to use them for their effects on other people. The mones are useless if you're in the wrong

    frame of mind. However, I've heard some evidence that girls can smell things like copulins on guys and are

    attracted to it because it signals that the guy is successful with women. This would help explain why guys often get

    more girls when they have a girlfriend.
    In my humbble opinion, the manufacturers pleas for exposure

    are very tacky, what he states hardly makes any sense to begin with, he refers to confidence, and that with his

    product you will attain this, to me thats a dangerous assumption, it could leave alot of people very stooged if the

    desired effect did not work. confidence is a complicated human behaviour, and not something pheromones can give to a

    person.

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    Red face hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Icehawk
    The Master

    Pheromones for Men is soooo going to get one killed by their gf. Although for competitions sake or females it

    would look like THE product to use. Impressive.
    haha, i am curious about this one, because my first

    thought was if my man smelled this strongly a flag would be raised, even against my better judgement...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    In my humbble

    opinion, the manufacturers pleas for exposure are very tacky, what he states hardly makes any sense to begin with,

    he refers to confidence, and that with his product you will attain this, to me thats a dangerous assumption, it

    could leave alot of people very stooged if the desired effect did not work. confidence is a complicated human

    behaviour, and not something pheromones can give to a person.
    Ageed. However, like politicians who try to

    avoid slander and bs in their campains, pheromone products that don't make bs claims tend to get tossed aside. SOE

    is the only product I have seen that goes out of it's way to avoid BS claims. Like it or not pheromone products are

    a "magic beans" kind of industry.
    24 year old, good looking, white guy SOE+NPA works like a charm
    Chikara no results nice scent
    Pherlure cant wear it; strong scent headache
    AA314 good stuff
    NPA girls get frisky, stinks
    A7 almost as good as NPA
    SOE legit

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    My "Mistress" cologne has

    just arrived, so will test it this weekend. Smells very good indeed.

    Bit wary of "swiping it under the nose

    several times, from left to right," as insructed though, as a couple of the essential oils quoted can cause

    sensitivity in many people.

    They are adamant it must be used thus - but we ladies can apparently use it anywhere

    else we like in addition to swiping it "with the roller-ball flat against the skin above the upper lip, and under

    the nose," as we have Quote: "Many, many more receptor sites than males!"

    WTF?

    Well..let's just see how it

    pans out on Saturday night..

    Ail :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce
    Gfunk,

    Check

    the formula:
    Copulins
    Vomeropherin
    Estratetraniol
    TRP2 (Axillary Secretions)
    V1R/V2R (Vaginal

    Alipathic Acids)

    Cooter formula 999 ala estratetra. Other than EW and women's PMax there is not much on

    the market with a convincing copulins thing happening. So, unless this is all BS, this takes that to a whole new

    level.
    The only reference for either TRP2, V1R, or V2R uses these terms when referring to likely

    pheromone receptors. Maybe someone else can determine why they refer to TRP2 as an axillary secretion, and V1R/V2R

    as Vaginal Alipathic Acids. Short-chain fatty acids are the basis of the copulin formula, and they already list

    copulins in the formula. "Vomeropherin" is a classification, not anything specific.



    JVK

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    Forgot to mention that "alipathic

    acid" is also an unfamiliar term. They may be referring to "aliphatic acids," but since there ad copy focusses on

    the human VNO, which is non-functional, perhaps they have discovered something unknown to any other olfactory

    researchers.

    JVK

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    This one definitly caught my

    interest. But I really don't see how I can benefit from it (after looking at the ingredients.) It makes sense for a

    woman to wear. But not a man. It will be very interesting to see the results that some of you guys get. I'm not

    gonna drop any money on this one until I learn more about it.

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    jvk, your the expert in this

    forum, and you can screen these "products" out. Now in lay mans terms, what would you say based on the evidence you

    have at your disposal to give an opinion with regards to the effectivness of the product for its intended desired

    effect? ofcourse, I dont want you getting into a conflict of interest over this, since, both products (yours and

    master) are sold on love scent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    jvk, your the expert

    in this forum, and you can screen these "products" out. Now in lay mans terms, what would you say based on the

    evidence you have at your disposal to give an opinion with regards to the effectivness of the product for its

    intended desired effect? ofcourse, I dont want you getting into a conflict of interest over this, since, both

    products (yours and master) are sold on love scent.
    Thank you for recognizing the potential conflict

    of interest. I'm certain that Bruce will investigate these products further, and I have never questioned his

    decisions in this regard. As with any product, the Forum members will most likely be involved in his decision, since

    they are the most influential - as consumers.

    JVK

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    I am sure, that whatever Bruce

    sells on this site works to some extent, im not questioning that. I was just trying to get the opinion of an expert.

    However, I believe you are right in saying the forum members do a good job in "dissecting" these products. But it

    would be good for an expert such as yourself to maybe review the other products available, but I understand that

    probably that is not possible on this forum, ( guess it could be wrongly interpreted as a bias or something )

    Anyway, didnt hurt in asking...

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    By the way, ordered SOE again,

    not sure if other forum members do this, but this product is a great summer scent, leave it in the fridge, works

    well on the skin when the liquid is cold. Seems it has a greater longevity on the skin in hot weather and when

    applied cold, lasts all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    I am sure, that

    whatever Bruce sells on this site works to some extent, im not questioning that. I was just trying to get the

    opinion of an expert. However, I believe you are right in saying the forum members do a good job in "dissecting"

    these products. But it would be good for an expert such as yourself to maybe review the other products available,

    but I understand that probably that is not possible on this forum, ( guess it could be wrongly interpreted as a bias

    or something ) Anyway, didnt hurt in asking...
    Right, no harm in asking. I hope that others

    understand. It would be best if a researcher who is not closely linked to any product would publish a paper on the

    efficacy of different putative human pheromones. Instead, what we have consistently seen is that people, including

    researchers, publish papers that show only the efficacy of ingredients included in their product, and sometimes

    disregard data suggesting efficacy of other compounds. And, when there is no scientific data, the marketing folks

    tend to make it up.

    With the success of the Scent of Eros line came advertising on a totally unrelated

    marketing site using the phrase "Scent of Eros Pheromones," while noting that pheromones are sometimes referred to

    as the Scent of Eros. Their response to my complaint was to cite European Trademark law. But, if I were to denouce

    claims of their product's efficacy, it would probably draw more attention to them, and their despicable,

    unknowledgeable, portrayal of human pheromone products.

    On the other hand, if I promote my product line as

    the only effective products on the market, I would be falling into a marketing trap, because sooner or later someone

    would come up with another effective product. So, I try to temper my comments, and pay attention to comments on the

    Pheromone Forum. Even if I recognize a product to be bogus, it's far better for all concerned to let at least a few

    others find out for themself. Remember the Pherlure thread? It went on for a long time, and was -so far as I'm

    concerned- a complete waste of time. But, I'm relatively certain that some people learned something along the way.

    Minimally, we each should be wary of marketing ploys, whether or not they seem to be blatant. Most will be, as that

    is the nature of marketing.

    Many people are not aware that I published my book in 1995, and the Scent of Eros

    products were not even a consideration until the original product came out in 2001. When I updated the book for the

    2002 paperback edition, I still was not using it for product promotion. Some marketing folks would think me a fool

    in this regard. Professional ethics and scientific credibility are more important to me than the opinions of others.

    But, wait a minute, I just plugged my book, didn't I? There are times when saying nothing is best, but where would

    we be if all the Forum members felt that way.

    JVK

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    Thanks for your help as always

    James. I am very sorry I forgot to mention your product, Scent of Eros (women's version) as one of the products

    with a respectable copulins representation. Actually, I think SOE for women was the first scented product with a

    serious Eau de Cooter note. You can smell the copulins, but yet it works. We rarely get complaints about

    it.

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    any feedback yet?? I probably won't

    end up buying this product in the near future. Especially since I just bought the Lucky 7 set and Liquid Trust.

    Right now everything is going great for me. So I'm not about to make any changes yet.

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