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    Okay, so I heard this before from another poster and I'm thinking it might be the oil carrier... who

    knows. However, I loved the scent of the SOE gel packs... it was more masculine, musky type smell... really worked

    out well for me. However, just got the SOE roll bottle and it smells like an old lady's perfume. I know what people

    mean now by feeling like wuss wearing too much SOE... but I wore an entire gel pack of SOE scented before and had

    the best hits I've ever had + loved the scent/aura too.

    I just hope Love Scent will let me exchange for the

    packs... any of you guys notice this?

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    muscle what i do agree is that

    gel application allows for that aura effect to come across, no other method can really do that

    unless you

    know the method i invented!

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    and what method would that

    be?

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    lense paper

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    lense

    paper
    You must be popular around here bronzie... I agree with Gegogi in asking what the hell you are

    smoking.

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    Actually the correct spelling is

    "lens paper," not "lense paper." I would only use lens paper in a desparate situation, e.g., worldwide shortage of

    Zip-Zags.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle4Hire
    You must be

    popular around here bronzie... I agree with Gegogi in asking what the hell you are smoking.
    muscle

    did i miss gegogi comments, could you kindly direct me to the post?

    yes im popular, im a popular guy...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    Actually the

    correct spelling is "lens paper," not "lense paper." I would only use lens paper in a desparate situation, e.g.,

    worldwide shortage of Zip-Zags.
    interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    muscle did i

    miss gegogi comments, could you kindly direct me to the post?

    yes im popular, im a popular guy...


    "Sheesh, Bronzie you're trying amazingly hard to read something into my post that isn't

    there. In fact you appear to be hallucinating prose in a bad way." -Gegogi

    What I'm saying is explain more

    about the lens paper technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle4Hire
    Okay, so

    I heard this before from another poster and I'm thinking it might be the oil carrier... who knows. However, I loved

    the scent of the SOE gel packs... it was more masculine, musky type smell... really worked out well for me. However,

    just got the SOE roll bottle and it smells like an old lady's perfume. I know what people mean now by feeling like

    wuss wearing too much SOE... but I wore an entire gel pack of SOE scented before and had the best hits I've ever

    had + loved the scent/aura too.

    I just hope Love Scent will let me exchange for the packs... any of you guys

    notice this?

    you know, the gel pack in my experience, are great... i got DITHL, look from a couple of

    lass's and my family was so chatty around me...
    the roll not work that well for me.. i'm gonna order some gel

    pack, there work so much better.
    cheers,
    darkpoet3113

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    I can't tell any difference

    between the fragrance attributes of the gel-pack versus roll-on. I hope those who think there is a difference

    aren't merely sniffing the site where they apply the product immediately after they apply it. Give it a few

    minutes, then see if you still think there's a difference.

    Personally, the roll-on is so much more

    convenient to use that I rarely use the gel-packs. Initially, they were meant only for use as samples of the

    fragrance associated with the active compounds.

    I have posted a video of responses by women and by men to SoE

    products at

    http://.com/Pheromone-enhancedproducts.html

    In each case, the

    roll-on was used.

    JVK

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    [quote=jvkohl]I can't tell

    any difference between the fragrance attributes of the gel-pack versus roll-on. I hope those who think there is a

    difference aren't merely sniffing the site where they apply the product immediately after they apply it. Give it a

    few minutes, then see if you still think there's a difference.

    Personally, the roll-on is so much more

    convenient to use that I rarely use the gel-packs. Initially, they were meant only for use as samples of the

    fragrance associated with the active compounds.

    I have posted a video of responses by women and by men to SoE

    products at



    http://.com/Pheromone-enhancedproducts.ht

    ml


    In each case, the roll-on was used.



    JVK


    to be honest, it's not the smell i was

    worries about it was the effective, between the two... i don't know about the other guy/gals.. but i think the

    gelpacks, work better, in my opinion... nice video thanks,
    cheers,
    darkpoet3113

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    Very cool video JVK.

    I've

    had girls say (and do) similar things to how the first girl was describing it.
    CptKipling

    Information about pheromones: Pheromone Information Library

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling
    Very cool video

    JVK.

    I've had girls say (and do) similar things to how the first girl was describing

    it.
    Thanks, so have I --from the beginning, when I was experimenting only with the active

    ingredients. It's hard to imagine anyone faking the response, and the response to the SoE/women seems equally

    good.

    Note that no one involved with SoE products had anything to do with the show that featured the

    products. I didn't even know about the show until I asked why my site traffic increased so dramatically, and one of

    the Forum members told me that the show aired in England.

    JVK

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvkohl
    I have posted

    a video of responses by women and by men to SoE products at



    http://.com/Pheromone-enhancedproducts.ht

    ml


    In each case, the roll-on was used.



    JVK
    That is a great video. Though I would

    love to see how twin guys would do with and without pheromones. The twins were attractive already and seeing

    not-quite-attractive guys' experiments would be quite invaluable in that respect.

    But then again, if nol and

    rone works for these girls, then why do we guys use rone and nol; and more importantly, why is it a bad idea to use

    none in phermone products?

    Thanks for the video again!

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    The girls (as did the red-haired

    celebrity) used SoE/women, which contains the copulin mix and also contains androstenol. What made you think they

    were using nol and rone? SoE (for men) contains nol and rone. The reasoning behind the formulations is explained in

    the paragraph below the link to the video at the following

    URL:

    http://.com/Pheromone-enhancedproducts.html

    JVK
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    Quote Originally Posted by chromeboy
    That is a great video. Though I would love to see how twin guys would do with and

    without pheromones. The twins were attractive already and seeing not-quite-attractive guys' experiments would be

    quite invaluable in that respect.

    But then again, if nol and rone works for these girls, then why do we guys

    use rone and nol; and more importantly, why is it a bad idea to use none in phermone products?

    Thanks for

    the video again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvkohl
    The girls (as

    did the red-haired celebrity) used SoE/women, which contains the copulin mix and also contains androstenol.
    Oh I thought SoE was unisex. Sorry, my mistake.


    P.S.:But still, it would be awesome to see and

    compare what sort of reaction do guys get on a video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chromeboy
    Oh I thought SoE

    was unisex. Sorry, my mistake.


    P.S.:But still, it would be awesome to see and compare what sort of

    reaction do guys get on a video.
    An unpublished study done by a colleague's student

    several years ago used 1 mg/ml androsterone on a male who interacted with females while playing a game called "Mind

    Trap." Though the women reported no difference in attraction to the male whether or not he was wearing the

    androsterone, other people rated the interaction and a trend was shown: more body language indicative of greater

    attraction/interest when the male was wearing the androsterone. I suspect it would be difficult to show even a trend

    if the study was done on twin males--unless a few hundred women participated. The problem is with statistical

    significance, and the amount of effort and money that it takes to design and execute a study with a large number of

    participants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jvkohl
    An unpublished

    study done by a colleague's student several years ago used 1 mg/ml androsterone on a male who interacted with

    females while playing a game called "Mind Trap." Though the women reported no difference in attraction to the male

    whether or not he was wearing the androsterone, other people rated the interaction and a trend was shown: more body

    language indicative of greater attraction/interest when the male was wearing the androsterone. I suspect it would be

    difficult to show even a trend if the study was done on twin males--unless a few hundred women participated. The

    problem is with statistical significance, and the amount of effort and money that it takes to design and execute a

    study with a large number of participants.




    JVK
    Having just passed from my regression

    analysis course, I really understand the problems associated with statistical significance.

    Several things

    attracted my attention in that video

    1- Phermones DO work even if you do not go and talk to somebody. In other

    words phermones DO get you noticed even if you just stand still. Approaching or not approaching might be a cultural

    issue (i.e. in most of the cases men are expected to initiate the conversation) or depends on self-confidence, but

    as a conclusion phermones work even if you do not initiate a conversation or talk to people.

    2- Range of the

    phermones are quite high. The second girl received attention from over the other side of the bar. I know really

    believe that phermones are received by antoher super-sensitive organ other than the standard smelling "apparatus" in

    the nose.

    It was really interesting and I hope more of such video experiments will be done in the future.

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    SOE is a class A product , no

    doubt, its helped me and will continue to buy it in the future.

    However

    I have a concern with the

    legitimacy with this video in regards to showing the effectivness of this product, especially the "twins" segment,

    it seems highly edited and Choreographed, especially of the men approaching the 2 girls, it looks acted with close

    ups of the men involved. The men, it seems are not in thier natural pub enviroment and behaviour simply because they

    have to play up to a video camera hovering over them! It looks staged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    it seems

    highly edited and Choreographed, especially of the men approaching the 2 girls, it looks acted with close ups of the

    men involved. The men, it seems are not in thier natural pub enviroment and behaviour simply because they have to

    play up to a video camera hovering over them! It looks staged.
    It does, but I assume it was a

    re-enactment of how phermones are SUPPOSED to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chromeboy
    It does, but I

    assume it was a re-enactment of how phermones are SUPPOSED to work.
    I didnt get that feeling that it

    was supposed to be a re- enactment, at times the camera was hidden behind the bar as if it were conceled, then at

    times it was in everyones face. My assumption was it was meant to show in real time how pheromones effect men in a

    pub. But it was obviously staged with actors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvkohl
    I can't tell

    any difference between the fragrance attributes of the gel-pack versus roll-on. I hope those who think there is a

    difference aren't merely sniffing the site where they apply the product immediately after they apply it. Give it a

    few minutes, then see if you still think there's a difference.
    I am 100% percent sure there is a

    significant difference... I still have the empty scented SOE gel pack and sniffed the pack in my left hand , the

    roll bottle in my right.... the pack has a more musky, manly smell. I think the oil carrier might have something to

    do with it. Also, the gel pack gave me a halo effect (absolutely magnetic) and the roll bottle gave me a tame baby

    tiger SOE effect.

    jvkohl, I would ask a lot of the members around here because I read this from a lot of other

    users...

    Oh and thanks for the video... it definately is not an objective documentary by any means but its

    still cool to see people relating the same effects.

    Anybody doubting SOE gel packs? Go apply one full pack to

    your arms and neck, walk into Abercrombie on a Saturday at lunch time... I did this and got so many stares that I

    walked out like holy sh-t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    SOE is a class A

    product , no doubt, its helped me and will continue to buy it in the future.

    However

    I have a concern

    with the legitimacy with this video in regards to showing the effectivness of this product, especially the "twins"

    segment, it seems highly edited and Choreographed, especially of the men approaching the 2 girls, it looks acted

    with close ups of the men involved. The men, it seems are not in thier natural pub enviroment and behaviour simply

    because they have to play up to a video camera hovering over them! It looks staged.
    I notice that the

    second twin (Eve) was leaning againt the bar with her hips stuck out, a classic I'm a slut come talk to me

    pose.
    Maybe the extra body language gave more men the green light to initiate conversation.

    In any effect

    I think SOE is worth a look.

    DCW

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronzie
    I didnt get

    that feeling that it was supposed to be a re- enactment, at times the camera was hidden behind the bar as if it were

    conceled, then at times it was in everyones face. My assumption was it was meant to show in real time how pheromones

    effect men in a pub. But it was obviously staged with actors.
    That is called crappy British televisionry



    Nonetheless, the real thing that concerned me was these two things

    Quote Originally Posted by me before
    1- Phermones DO

    work even if you do not go and talk to somebody. In other words phermones DO get you noticed even if you just stand

    still. Approaching or not approaching might be a cultural issue (i.e. in most of the cases men are expected to

    initiate the conversation) or depends on self-confidence, but as a conclusion phermones work even if you do not

    initiate a conversation or talk to people.

    2- Range of the phermones are quite high. The second girl received

    attention from over the other side of the bar. I know really believe that phermones are received by antoher

    super-sensitive organ other than the standard smelling "apparatus" in the nose.
    And since Dr.Kohl is

    hosting the video, this means that he also confirms these two elements, given that you apply the correct amount.

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    Won't it be sick if there was

    a video of a person who was wearing pheromones and a spy cam. Showing us
    1. How correctly to wear it.
    2. How it fx

    other people
    3. How to notice some key aspects

    And it's fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by chromeboy
    And since

    Dr.Kohl is hosting the video, this means that he also confirms these two elements, given that you apply the correct

    amount.
    I put the edited segment on my site because it was good for product marketing. I don't

    confirm anything! The title of the show is "The Aphrodisiac Test" and SoE products have never been marketed as

    aphrodisiacs. I've commented negatively about "twin studies" that supposedly show other products work. The only

    thing that such studies show are what the producers of the show want to show. The fact that they featured the SoE

    products has some entertainment value and some of the comments support product use, but this is not a representation

    of research and definitely not a documentary or reinactment. Hope everyone will just take it at face value, and not

    try to read into it. Come on, folks--other products featured were Bull's Testicles, horney goat weed -- no wonder

    the SoE products come off smelling like a rose. Besides, you all have a choice. If you want science -- see the

    scientific evidence page of or



    JVK

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvkohl
    I put the edited

    segment on my site because it was good for product marketing. I don't confirm anything! The title of the show is

    "The Aphrodisiac Test" and SoE products have never been marketed as aphrodisiacs. I've commented negatively about

    "twin studies" that supposedly show other products work. The only thing that such studies show are what the

    producers of the show want to show. The fact that they featured the SoE products has some entertainment value and

    some of the comments support product use, but this is not a representation of research and definitely not a

    documentary or reinactment. Hope everyone will just take it at face value, and not try to read into it. Come on,

    folks--other products featured were Bull's Testicles, horney goat weed -- no wonder the SoE products come off

    smelling like a rose. Besides, you all have a choice. If you want science -- see the scientific evidence page of

    or



    JVK

    bad marketing often

    means exposure to your product, and in the end its about sales, if you can get the sales you want, who cares about

    how good or bad the marketing is, as long as it doesnt offend too many people, and is politally correct?,thats where

    we hit a brick wall, are pheromones politcally correct? my guess is no.

    JVK,if you went to alaska and fought

    off a polar bear with a bottle of scent of eros, i bet your chances on bieng interviewed by letterman and the rest

    of those late night hosts would be pretty strong. Now thats what i call marketing!!

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    I strongly resent the

    "crappy British televisionary" comment, to be honest, and I watched that entire programme when it aired here in

    Scotland.

    Toyah Wilcox (referred to as the flame-haired celebrity) was a massive pop singer here in the 80's and

    was used in that programme because her cynicism of such products is absolutely legendary over here. She is VERY

    difficult to convince of anything, and over and above that, has a highly abrasive attitude that people over here

    refer to as having the "Sucking lemons syndrome."

    If it was a Brit who made that quoted and crass comment, then I

    have to ask - why? We get enough garbage from people Across the Pond without you compounding the problem, and if it

    was someone from the States, do you see us slamming into your NUMEROUS crappy so-called "amusing" sitcoms - on an

    INTERNATIONAL forum? No, because we respect people from other countries, just as you should.

    That programme has

    been cut massively. You are seeing a very small portion of what was a phenomenally-successful emission when it aired

    over here, and saw sales of SOE in the UK rise by a huge proportion.

    'mones and their usage are still relatively

    new over here in the UK, and with the cultural differences, as I'm sure the English moderator here (his name

    escapes me but I am calling to mind Mr. Kipling, so that may be something to do with his handle) will attest, we do

    NOT have a lot of the same kind of hits reported by many of the forum members here.

    In England people tend to be

    very reserved, aloof and on the whole highly-skeptical. Here in Scotland, we are also very cynical, but we

    definitely have a reputation for being a lot warmer, and more open to looking "outside of the box." It's not fair,

    and it's a definite stereotype, but it's a fact.

    I have long since given up on trying to explain to my mates

    over in the US, that we are NOT all constantly drunken, incoherent mongrels, here in Scotland.

    If you want to

    think the reactions of the participants was forced, then so be it, but understand that Toyah Wilcox was used BECAUSE

    of her legendary stance on such products, and when Brits saw her endorse the fact that it worked, THAT is what made

    the SOE UK-based sales figures escalate.

    Oh..and June Sarpong - (the Brit TV celeb who did the voice-over) is

    probably at least as cynical as Toyah..

    Ail :-)
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    Toyah Wilcox?

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    Holmes' Theme Song

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