Hi Crystal, just curious, what
does EW stand for? which product?
Hi guys and gals!
I had a backorder placed for 2 bottles of EW, which as you all know was out of
stock.
Well, it's just arrived, and to say that it smells VASTLY different from the last lot I had, is the
understatement of the century!
It's nowhere near as sharp or strong, but to be honest, I am NOT liking the way
this lot smells one bit!
It's very hard to describe just HOW it smells, but what is really annoying me, is that
I had found my Vivienne Westwood perfume Boudoir and Aquolina's Pink Sugar to be perfect cover scents for the last
lot of EW I had - and I cannot cover this one up for love or money!
Did anyone else place a recent order for
this, and if so, have you noticed the difference?
I think I'm going to post in the Customer Services thread just
to see if Tammy or Bruce can shed any light on this.
I don't remember reading anything here about it being
reformulated, but my nose is very good when it comes to scents, and this just does not smell anything remotely like
the last three bottles of EW I bought here.
Interested to hear from anyone else who has recently placed and
received an EW order.
Ail :-)
Eight Words The Wiccan Rede Fulfill: 'An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will )O(
Hi Crystal, just curious, what
does EW stand for? which product?
Look
HERE!!
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
Its scent Jim but not as we know
it.
You can say that again. Look in the archives for the original beta of it. It had to beOriginally Posted by bronzie
diluted 10,000:1 outside and then double bottled, and even then, it could still be smelled!!
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
this product could classify as a
weapon.
Imagine letting off copulin bomb in Iraq or Iran? those radical Islamic extremists wouldnt know what
to do with all that womanly scent flying around in the air? they cant actually put a black burqa over it!?! they
will either self destruct or accept it and sing tunes from the sound of music.
Sorry, yes it's Essence Of
A Woman, and I get the most amazing results from it - and contrary to what other people have found, these results
are with someone who has known me very well for almost 12 years!
We've been best friends and nothing more, for
that length of time but just before Christmas things started...changing between us, and it threw us both for six.
I've just turned 39 and he has just turned 32, but the age thing is nothing to me - especially since he is MILES
older in the head than me - seriously.
I then decided to throw some Pheromones into the mix to see what happened.
Suffice to say, EW IS the bomb - in all good ways....^_~
I took two of the 7.5 ml EW bottles and decanted them
(straight - undiluted) into a 30ml blue glass roll-on bottle I had, then added an entire 5 ml bottle of PCC.
I
apply this mix straight from the roll-on, wait five minutes, and then spray on my perfume to the areas where I
applied the EW/PCC mix (wrists, crook of elbow, forearms, lower abdomen, sides and back of neck , behind knees, on
earlobes), and that is just the ticket for me, I've found.
I also add two drops of straight EW to each and
every perfume oil I possess (a LOT) and here in Scotland we have easy access to a Pheromone product called
Pherofragrance (which I think has been mentioned on these forums before. In fact, I think it was by yourself
Bronzie) and I put one drop of that in my cleavage, and nowhere else. Nothing else is needed - for me anyway.
Everybody of course is different.
Pherofragrance is developed by Dr. George Dodd who also developed Excite Wipes
which are of course, sold here (it's exactly the same thing in a liquid format in fact) and since I live fairly
near Mellon in Fife, where it's produced, it's a hop, skip and jump to get more.
I wondered if Bruce realised
it's the same thing exactly as Excite Wipes, but in liquid form? I am sure it would fly out of here if he stocked
it.
I love this site. I have avidly studied the posts here of people like Dolly and The Countess, and follow
their advice closely. The Countess's Witches Brew is now a staple for me, and like Dolly, I mix EW up STRONG (see
above), and get very good results.
This still isn't answering the mystery of the change in the way this batch
smells though...anyone..?
Ail :-)
Eight Words The Wiccan Rede Fulfill: 'An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will )O(
the classic vinegar smell... as the fatty acids the compose body secretions become heavier, first they
smell somewhat buttery (butyric and isobutyric acids) then they become outright musky-cheesy smelling... Isobutyric
acid is present in vomit too, which helps give it its' enchanting aroma...
My inclination is that younger
women tend to produce lighter fatty acids and as they get older the heavier fatty acids may predominate...
propionic, butyric, and their esters... a good copulin formula ought to include butyl esters in low concentration as
they add a light fruity note that you will identify in fresh young pussies.
OTOH pentanoic (a.k.a. valeric)
acid is decidedly raunchy and should be used sparingly as a "grace note"... too much pentanoic acid can be a major
turn off...
However, if you skip the sharp, nasty, repellant pentanoic acid and go one carbon higher to
hexanoic acid it can add a good rich organic pussy funk to the situation...
In conclusion, an ideal copulin
formula would be 3, 4, and 6 carbon (ethyl, butyl, hexyl)... 2 carbon is too sharp, 5 and 7 carbon to
stanky/rancid... and a sprinkling of various esters thereof for deliciousness..
Some of the higher ketones
perhaps, like methyl hexyl ketone described as "At 10.00 ppm. Dairy, waxy, cheese, woody, mushroom and
yeast"...
The early copulins were either too sharp/acid or toooo pungent/rancid... even the PCC formula went
form light and nice in one batch to hellaciously funky in another...
Details, gentlemen, details matter !!
Thanks surf. I had suspected as
much because I've used a small amount of copulins even though I'm a guy. Years ago one bottle I had worked great
in a formula of -non and a bit of -nol. This was many years ago before all the new pheromones were out. In any case,
after that bottle, none of the subsequent stuff worked nearly as well. I found that PCC did nearly nothing...and I
couldn't figure out why. Hopefully the new EW batch will be effective even if it doesn't smell all that good and
can't be covered well. At least the good thing about humans is that they can adapt to nearly anything if thier
first few experiences are great.
I used copulins with my bisexual
girlfriend a couple of years ago, as she approached me, she started to wave the air from her face,- like what
stinks. I used PIW. I really cant say if they work in general with me, because after that incident, I threw the
bottle in my cupboard and never used them again with her or another girl, I have a full bottle. She responded to
Xcite wipes and PIm like a charm, every single meeting, she would compliment that I smelt so good.
Crystal, you live in the Scottish Highlands?Originally Posted by CrystalMoon
Sounds crisp! As a clanswoman you should know your choice in scents, its your right by birth!
Next time your
near Dr.Dodds wildeness, ask that Merlin of the scent world if he could teach you a few tricks and brews. Maybe he
can make you into the next Morgana of the scent scene.
I personally love his products and not only
pherofragrance.
Thanks CrystalMoon, I too am still using my Witches Brew and am stillOriginally Posted by CrystalMoon
getting great results. I purchased a new bottle of EW but mine smells the same as the old one.
Countesszero
should you haunt the fragrance and flavoring industry catalogs... you will find many good
candidates for nuances and grace notes that offer something closer to the full HDTV Hi-Rez sensorium of echt
copulin... these first generation copulin products are overly simplistic IMHO to be convincing to the reptile
brain... maybe a touch of Acetyl Methyl Carbinol or some Butyl Butyryl Lactate, a touch of Difurfuryl Sulfide, a
pinch of Diacetyl, 2 Methyl Butyric Acid,1 Octen-3-Ol, and 4,5 Dimethyl Thiazole ... a couple of other
this'n'that... look, a good perfume chemist could tune this juice to a "T"... they know how to do it, they just
have to be super sneaky when they're incorporating it into a mainstream fragrance.. you could even add in some
"spermous" 1-pyrroline or earthy 2-pentadecalactone.. I'd betcha there's some real good hints hidden in them
lactones...4-hexylbutan-4-olide ? Etc.... please, guys, as close to the real thing as you can get it !
FWIW, the old EW seemed to age
with time, and mellow. So I'd wonder whether that had anything to do with the smell difference.
To my nose the
original batch had a bit too much butyric acid (the parmesan cheese smell). But a product like that is tremendously
hard to balance. And still, I still found the mix very useful as a fixative and animal note, as well as a
pheromone/aphrodisiac.
I don't know what the relation between EW and the "original Astrid Jutte recipe" is (not
that that would have to be the end all be all set of ratios/chemicals), and would be curious to find out. I do know
EW has an indole, which was not in the Jutte recipe -- but I was in favor of including that "ass note".
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
when you've
experienced connoisseur grade aroma, the grand cru of aphrodisiac scents, the entire brain turns on in a
way that it never does, or only partially does with copulin additives as they are now formulated ... for
much the same reason that synthetic fragrances that contain a couple of the major isomers of whatever never come
close to believability... like everybody uses Iso Butyl Quinoline to make those woody man fragrances, and there the
funky Tetrahydro Para Methyl Quinoline and three or four others used in commercial perfumery, Methyl, Propyl, maybe
5 ? Good fixatives too... Imagine having access to 10-12 variations on the theme, how complex and alluring it would
be in contrast to being hit over the olfactory bulb with "chypre"...ugh!
Real snatch, glorious and fresh and
biologic.... is filled with a symphony of oozing notes ! Seaweed, fruity esters, leather, butter, cheeses,
estrogens...the bouquet of wine pales by comparison... everything from the daintiest mountain heather, to teeming
fisheries, to dank caves filled with aging cheeses....much more than a handful of fatty acids !
couldn't believe me buggered eyes ! Have a go at this one
matey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/4761989.stm
NiceOriginally Posted by surfs_up
description! You're sounding a bit like Luca Turin! Once you get the basic chemicals down, you can add other
things to get it closer. Every woman smells different. My ex girlfriend smelled like jasmine there, which was nice
and classic. Open up a fresh batch of cumin seed sometime and smell it. You may be suprised.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Well, I just got a new batch of 2 bottles....haven't tried toOriginally Posted by CrystalMoon
use and cover yet, but mine smells stronger than usual. I went to the Post Office, and as soon as I opened my PO
Box, you could smell it. I walked into the main area to get some stamps, and the lady behind the counter
said....."Good, I'm glad you picked up your mail....whatever is in that package really smells". I thought that the
bottle had leaked or something, but when I opened it, I found them intact. But, it seemed that the scent had just
permeated the whole package.
I ordered a bottle of EW after
iscovering how effective it was on me when a friend of mine ordered some. She gave me one drop, and that one drop
had me going crazy for days after the bottle broke. I couldn't believe it, my sex drive literally doubled. Of
course that cheese note was horrible at first, and almost embarassing, too. But I ordered a bottle for myself as
soon as I saw it was back in stock.
When I tore open the package, I smelled what smelled like a fruity sweetish
and only very faintly cheesy smell. (I'm no perfumer, guys, so bear with me.) I wondered what the problem was,
also thinking the bottle had becomeopened in transit, but it was sealed.
Then I saw the newlabel and bottle and
that it was clear. I remember the old one being whitish. I got mad that they changed the formula, because I knew
the old one worked. I took a whiffof the newoneand was amazed at how much different - and more pleasant - it smells
to me. It's very fruity and sweet to my nose, if a bit too much.
So now I'mwondering if it's the same
concentrationas the old formula, and I put 1/3rdof a drop on the backof my hand and rubbed the backof my other hand
in. Whoa! Talk about your blooming! I had to run for the shower, and even after showering, I could still tell the
difference between where I had applied it and the soap smell.
I then made myself a 300:1 dilution, and it smells
a lot like like grape koolade to me. Which is a lot more like what natural copulins smell like to me than the old
formula. My roommate says it smells like rotting melon, and my assistant says it smells terrible - but it's having
the same effect as the old formula on me, that's for sure. A few whiffs of this new stuff and I was going crazy.
Maybe I should dilute it to 400:1. I'mplanning to use it as a hint in mypheromone mix.
By the way, please
forgive my spacebar. It sucks.
I've only ever had 7.5ml
bottles labelled in dark blue and with a dropper lid, but these ones definitely do not smell the same as any of the
others I bought - I still had a little of my last order and have tested them side by side, and there is a fair
difference.
On Saturday night I finally managed to cover the EW scent using my Boudoir perfume, and I achieved
that by waiting a full 30 minutes before I sprayed my perfume, over my EW mix. Normally, I just follow Dolly's
advice, and wait five minutes, then spray.
I will just need to play around tweaking this lot, I guess. That's
always fun!
Ail :-)
Eight Words The Wiccan Rede Fulfill: 'An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will )O(
Ahhh... those would be fatty acid esters which give fruits theirI took a whiffof the
newoneand was amazed at how much different - and more pleasant - it smells to me. It's very fruity and sweet to my
nose, if a bit too much.
flavor and aromae... also vastly more stable than raw fatty acids which are actually corrosive acids when
concentrated... hence their long term instability... and their chemical interactions with other things... the ripe
Durian fruit, when obtained locally in southeast Asia, is about as sensuously obscene as an edible plant can be ...
and there have been may reports that consuming pineapple will improve the intimate flavors of both men and women,
while eating aged cheeses will have the opposite effect. Pineapple is loaded with longer chain esters...
The
modern perfumer has a multitude of choices to select from, scents which are fungal, earthy, meaty, seaweedy,
indolic, clammish, leathery ... some genius out there is destined to formulate a juice of such compelling
verisimultude that it will be featured in every gentleman's publication on the planet, and no doubt some mention
will be made in the discreet sections of the ladies magazines as well...
"Scientists Have Finally.....!!!"
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