ohh another one? dang.....
why are all these new mones comeing in when i don't have a job! haha. dose anyone know what oxytocin is "suppose"
to do?
This
one is for men or women.
http://www.love-scent.com/product_in...roducts_id/108
I got the
1/4 oz bottles to make it easier to give it a try; no idea if it works or not. Oxytocin definitely has an effect
when inhaled; hard to say if they put enough in to work as a cologne.
Let us know what you think.
B
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
ohh another one? dang.....
why are all these new mones comeing in when i don't have a job! haha. dose anyone know what oxytocin is "suppose"
to do?
Facilitate bonding and trust.
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
My understanding was that oxytocin
was only stable in solution for a short period before breaking down. Has the manufacturer found a way to stableize
it for longer periods??
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
What's the concentration of this
product?
I second that.Originally Posted by Mtnjim
Could we have a little bit more
specifics on this .mone or whatever it is? manufacturer? etc...
Check out their home page at
verolabs.com.
There is lots of info on oxytocin on the web, but they don't tell you how much is in the
product.
B
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
Fair Trade crafts from Peru
Well depending on some unknown
stability process, we might have 7 days.
From:
American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology. 186(3):496-498,
March 2002.
Gard, John W. RPh; Alexander, James M. MD; Bawdon, Roger E. PhD; Albrecht, Jon T.
RPh
"Abstract:
OBJECTIVE: The purpose of this study was to determine the stability of oxytocin in
lactated Ringer's solution and lactated Ringer's-dextrose 5% solution over a 24-hour period at 25[degrees]C and
over a 7-day period at 5[degrees]C.
STUDY DESIGN: Twenty units (2.1 [mu]g equal 1 unit) of oxytocin were injected
into 1000 mL of lactated Ringer's solution and lactated Ringer's-dextrose 5% solution. Samples for the analysis
were drawn at specified times after storage at 5[degrees]C and 25[degrees]C. These samples were stored at
-70[degrees]C for later analysis. Statistical analysis was done with 1-way analysis of variance and Tukey-Kramer
multiple comparisons.
RESULTS: Twenty units of oxytocin in 1000 mL of lactated Ringer's solution and lactated
Ringer's-dextrose 5% solution was found to be stable for 7 days at 5[degrees]C and for 24 hours at
25[degrees]C."
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
Worthy thread on the subject
matter at
hand.
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?
t=14370
And according to the study above, wouldnt the stuff last a full day at room temperature? From my
experiments the stuff seemed to dissapear quick. But it wasnt Liquid Trust so who knows.
This stuff sounds great but
I didn't like what they had to say about pheromones. They said that pheromones release oxytocin in the opposite
person and that's what makes pheromones what they are. I'm not saying that's not true but they're kinda
discouraging pheromone use. But hey, I'm willing to try it when I get some doe. And some more SOE. hehe
"Freedom to change seems to come after acceptance of ourselves." -BT pg. 56
From what I read last time
the participants effected by oxytocin in the study received a nasal spray. I would rather not spray something up a
targets nose.
24 year old, good looking, white guy SOE+NPA works like a charm
Chikara no results nice scent
Pherlure cant wear it; strong scent headache
AA314 good stuff
NPA girls get frisky, stinks
A7 almost as good as NPA
SOE legit
why not?Originally Posted by luxveritas
It's the ultimate turn on walking up to a chick and saying
"excuse me while i spray you up the nose , by the way you may find this turns me into Brad Pitt for the rest of the
evening"
I find beer works for me....
early 40's white male or or
If this product works the way
they claim -- which, frankly, seems a little doubtful -- wouldn't it have more of an effect on you (since you'd be
breathing more of it) than the person you're with? It might make you feel good, but it also might give you
inappropriate feelings of trust and affection toward everyone you meet... which could result in some pretty bad
decisions.
Anyway, that's the great thing about these forums -- I'll look forward to hearing the reactions of
those of you who decide to try it out.
i did some reasearch on oxytocin, and i read alot of reduce social anxiaty. i think thatsIf this product works
the way they claim -- which, frankly, seems a little doubtful -- wouldn't it have more of an effect on you (since
you'd be breathing more of it) than the person you're with? It might make you feel good, but it also might give
you inappropriate feelings of trust and affection toward everyone you meet... which could result in some pretty bad
decisions.
whats going on while you are breathing it in. cause i trust people more that you are not afride to interact with
stranger. or thats the conclution i am getting at.
but man as soon as i get some money, man im going to update
my mone collection.... and i can't wait!!
If you snort cocaine it has
an effect. If you smell cocaine I doubt much happens. It seemed to be a study about nasally delivered hormones. You
could probably snort testosterone and have results too.
24 year old, good looking, white guy SOE+NPA works like a charm
Chikara no results nice scent
Pherlure cant wear it; strong scent headache
AA314 good stuff
NPA girls get frisky, stinks
A7 almost as good as NPA
SOE legit
m-jim, im not understanding this completely, but if thisOriginally Posted by Mtnjim
product will dissipate and disapear on the time frame you mentioned and at the temperatures you state with the
study, then I find it will only last on the body for a very very short time, the human body is approximatly 37
degrees C constant, even on the skin. If this is true about this product then even if it were freezed, then applied
to the skin, it wouldnt last very long. 7 days? more like 7 minutes.
the link that Bruce provided shows a
very sleek website dedicated to this product, hope the product lives up to the testimonials on that site, I
personally will wait for more feedback from the forum....
IOriginally Posted by bronzie
posted that abstract because I was wondering about the solution's stability in the bottle, and the time
between manufacture and use. Even if manufactured as advertised, would it still be anything useful by the time we
got it? That was what I was questioning, not the time after application. Their site claims a 2-4 hour life span.
I'm so used to Bruce having high quality products here, this is the first one I've ever questioned.
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
hmmmm 2-4 hrs? hmmmmmm
after reading all your guy's posts and my research, i think i will actually give this product a try.
well
first of all its only like 20 bucks. and with that short hr span for the effectiveness and considering what oxytocin
dose, i think thats all the time you need. all you have to do is when you think you need some or the time is right
just spray it and tada.... cause you don't really want that on you all the time, just like someone said, you migh
make some bad decision while on it, if you are affected by it all the time......
Its actually 29 bucks, but I see your point, it wont exactly break the bank and worth aOriginally Posted by slickracer
try.
However, what some of the forum members have been suggesting is not that its not a good product, it may
well be very good, we are just questioning the product on the grounds that it is not a pheromone, and some forum
members have posted legitimate studies with good intention, that question its life span and its stability, therefore
in essence questioning the product and its longevity on human skin.
I thought it was
fairly cheap to buy oxycotin from veterinarian suppliers. I didn't know about the stability issues, and the only
thing that ever stopped me from trying it was that, a priori, I expected skin application to be an ineffective
delivery system, and that it would affect me more than the target.
The only thing I know about
oxytocin is that it causes "let down" in breast feeding women. For instance, a baby crying, or the sound of a
breast pump will cause the release of oxytocin, which in turn causes the breasts to immediately leak or squirt milk,
despite lack of pressure on the breasts.
You probably don't want to know why I know so much about breast
feeding. No, I don't have kids.
"You probably don't
want to know why I know so much about breast feeding. No, I don't have kids."
Of course we want to
know!!!!
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
so i take it no one has
actually tried this product?
can we get a little feedback from those who have? thanks!
don't be scared, click it
They don't call it the
"cuddle drug" for nothing...
This is the 'opposite' of a pheromone. Whereas pheromones are used prior to
mating to promote sexual attraction, oxytocin is used after mating to promote bonding with a person. Oxytocin is
why couples spoon, women (and men) want to cuddle after sex, and men roll over and fall asleep after climax.
The
rest of this message is conjecture and based on the assumption that artificial oxytocin placed on the body could
produce the same effect as the natural form after climax:
I would doubt the longevity of this product as well,
as oxytocin is meant to produce a temporary state (whether it be lactating or cuddling after sex). Pheromones, on
the other hand, need to last longer so you have time to interact with many potential mates before you find the one
that suits you best.
If you were thinking of its optimal use, it would be great to have if you wanted to promote
relaxation and intimacy with a loved one, since it gives you the post-sex cuddling session without the sex (but what
man would want that?). As for using it on someone you aren't intimate with, it would most likely make them more
intimate with you as well, meaning touching or bonding. That said, I'm curious of its effect on the same sex.
I could actually see this being beneficial if you want to get someone to drop their guard and open up to you, as
it states, which may be great for introverts (who like to bypass brutal small talk and get to other topics) or
people who like to accelerate new friendships.
For personal use, it might make a great item for people who need
to relax or get some good, loving feelings going through their bodies...I could see the potential downer, though, if
you used it and didn't have an outlet for your affections.
Just a warning for the men out there - I wouldn't
recommend using this for sexual purposes. Like I said, it's purpose is for after sex in humans. Who knows, though
- if you get the oxytocin without the sex, maybe it will cause the cuddly feelings that produce the intimacy needed
to have loving sex.
The skepticism is warranted - if it makes you feel cuddly, how does that help you with other
people? It might make you more trusting and them not so much, so that could create an imbalance.
A combination
of this and NLP techniques may be a great way to develop instant rapport with someone, but that would be an ideal
result.
Ok, That very informed
specualtion is great. I can't imagine that this stuff is highly effective, but may provide some sort of edge in
this regard. There just has not been many people posting their actual experience so its difficult to know what this
stuff does. I just ordered some. It will arrive sometime next week and we shall see what it does in the real
world. I'll post my experience in a few weeks.
Best wishes...
I just ordered some a
1/4 oz bottle of liquid trust from love-scent. I hope it comes before the weekend after next because I really am
looking forward to trying it out at the club I go to every weekend. I've gotten amazing results with the A314 and
Primal Instinct as far as the sexual response is concerned, but if the trust inducing properties of oxytocin are
half as good as the liquid trust site says it is, I'll be in for a lot more action than I'm already getting, which
is a heck of a lot as it is.
If I'm happy with the results, I'll probably buy a years supply from
verolabs.
http://www.verolabs.com/product.php?...868.248.253.87
I think it would be more
appropriate if you bought your year's or whatever supply from Bruce. I'm going to order some today but won't be
able to test till next week as I'm headed to Florida for the weekend.
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
They need to convince me that
they have stablised it's quick breakdown before I buy
Originally Posted by jago25_99
In other words you don't
TRUST them?
DCW
I'd sure love to hear all the details on that mix, if it is in a mix (application,Originally Posted by palatinecreator
application points, your age, ages of those it affected, did you mix them or apply them on different areas, cover
scent ... all of'it!)?
Thanks!
Back to the regular scheduled program ... yeah, I'd like to be
trusted!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
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