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    I am in love with an older man, who is just turned 50.I have heard that men's

    testosterone counts really fall after 45, so I am hoping the couplins will work. I am in my 40's and have tried

    mones ,excite wipes (nothing happened), the beginners kit, (good results) Scent of Erros (good), but the biggest

    result was from the Scent of Erros gel pack uni sex. I am not sure what makes it different than the regular SOE,

    but his eyes got so darkened and he just stared into mine for a long time, kinda like there was a curse on him! LOL

    But I didn't see where you can order it unisex.

    Wellso I just ordered some PCC and Alter Ego. Any ideas

    on how to start with these new mones? I know he is attracted to me, but he is trying to control himself. Well I

    want to knock him over the edge! Any help would be great! Thanks!

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    Not always. I'm going to turn

    50 in a few months and there's no noticable lessening of my levels. Gegogi is a little older and he seems to be

    doing fine. In both cases we keep ourselves in good shape and that probably has a lot to do with it.

    One thing

    about older males is they are les likely to accept somebody that doesn't offer more than physical stimulation. I

    want and need a woman who is going to stimulate me mentally as well as physically.

    That said, my wife likes to

    have fun and we spend a lot of our time laughing. She also wears lavendar a lot. I love it on her. To my knowledge

    she does not wear mones even though she is a forum member.

    If Naughtiegirl is around or the Countess, they could

    both help you. Naughtie is your age so probably has a lot of good advice.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    Not always. I'm

    going to turn 50 in a few months and there's no noticable lessening of my levels. Gegogi is a little older and he

    seems to be doing fine. In both cases we keep ourselves in good shape and that probably has a lot to do with it.

    I have to agree with the kids here. I'm even older and I think the point to be taken is the "keeping in

    shape". That has a lot to do with it (and other parts of life as well).

    I also agree that we "older" guys need

    more than ~mones and "looks" My girlfriend has "lucky genes" and can pass for her late 30's or early 40's, she

    gets "hit on" regularly by guys in their late 20"s and 30's. She's 63 (her mom is 90 and could pass for early

    60's) But, and here is a big but, no pun intended, if she wasn't smart, fun, and adventuresom, I would have not

    gotten into the relationship in the first place. So, you'll have a lot to focus on. Good luck, and there are lots

    of people here with some good advice on using ~mones and relationships in general.

    By the way,
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    Hey thanks guys! I know for

    for sure that he has declining testosterone, and I heard that couplins can raise the levels up, so that is what I am

    trying to do. He is in very good physical shape too.

    I have the other qualities that you have mentioned, I

    just want to drive him crazy with desire! LOL I am attractive, I just want to give him a little push!

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygirl
    Hey thanks guys! I

    know for for sure that he has declining testosterone, and I heard that couplins can raise the levels up, so that is

    what I am trying to do. He is in very good physical shape too.
    Also, vigerous excercise will raise "T"

    levels. Perhaps you can get a "more bang for the buck" by putting some cops on his upper lip, right under his nose,

    when he hits the gym for some weight training. Then you'll have the cops + the exercise working. Then be prepared

    for some "action" when he is finished at the gym. Be dressed (or undressed) "sexy" when he gets back from the

    gym.
    Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
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    Oops, sorry Mtnjim. I'd

    completely forgot about our resident senoir citizen.

    You are right about the key, though. A man or woman

    who cannot be fun and interesting is not going to get far once your past the pick up bar age. And as you get older,

    looks matter less than the quality of the person. Though looks can never be completely discounted.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Question

    Can anyone answer how to try

    out the mones for the best results?

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    I'll see if I can get Naughtie

    girl to stop by. She'll be one of your best resources. But in general, I'd give you the same basic advice I give

    all the new male users. Start small with a single product, wear it around him for a few days to see if he reacts. If

    not, increase the amount yoou wear for a few days. Keeep doing that until he reacts. Then go on to the next product

    and do the same thing. Once you've established reasonable dose levels you can try mixing. But remeber that the

    combo is going to be more powerful than any single product.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    I can recommend any of the

    fine flower essential oils, especially rose and jasmine, (or neroli) depending on your taste and chemistry.

    Natural amber is an earthy alternative, and a touch of vetiver is even earthier. In my experience, lavender is OK

    once somebody is psychologically turned on, as it can enhance erections and parasympathetic NS response; but

    isn't as reliable as fine flowers to get them interested. Avoid heavy, synthetic perfumes.

    To that you might

    add copulins, -nol, and a tiny dab of Edge/w spread around (and well covered). Which products you get these things

    from is your choice.

    If you want to knock him over the edge, present well with a mildly sexy edge; but without

    trying too hard; and stimulate him in some other way he can be stimulated, such as through an intellectual or

    artistic interest. (But obviously, don't make the mistake of assuming debates and arguments are intellectually

    stimulating in a good way for romance).

    Keep it fun and relaxed and don't pressure an older man into sex

    (performance anxiety kills libido every time). Avoid discussing relationship expectations that might short

    circuit his relaxation. If you are accepting of him it will help.

    There are so many other things I could say,

    but it's hard to know which you'd need to hear. If you told us more about you both, and the situation, we could

    help more.

    Best of luck to you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by happygirl
    Can anyone

    answer how to try out the mones for the best results?
    Hi happygirl - Nice to meet you!

    Sorry

    it took me so long, I've been pretty busy.

    On a side-note... maybe we could bat our lashes at DST and have him

    come up with a nice EO based mix for us? Hmmm? (Darn no good lash-batting emoticon!).

    So he already works out,

    right?

    My most favorite strategy is:
    - Work out myself, it does something to me as well.
    - I like Primal

    Instinct, it seems to put him in a good and talkative mood. I have never OD'ed on it either.
    - Then, definitely

    take advantage of the mood. Laughing a lot and ... well... teasing helps too

    As far as the copulins are

    concerned... the EW is extremely difficult to work with due to the ungodly smell of it. PCC smells ok but didn't

    seem to work for me.
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    Naughtie, I'd be happy to

    help if you specifiy your request more explicitly in the "perfuming basics" thread. Bumping will provide a service

    to those ladies who haven't seen it and keep it all in one place. I'd love to see folks get more interested in

    essential oils again around here, of course.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Default Older guys like myself need multiple channels of stimulation

    Wouldn't suggest that my experience is typical of the average older guy... I still

    "think young" in parts of my brain... the good old hormone ouput has decreased to the point that sexual urges and

    passionate romance are best left to the kids as the prime movers in inititiating a relationship or even a

    quick hook up for that matter.

    Women formerly complained about my superficiality... how could you be driven

    by sex like that, don't you see all the other aspects of women ???, chauvanist pig you.

    Now I've got the

    money to spend,.. the world weary, world wise knowledge of how to spend it well, the social skills I never imagined

    when as a callow youth, and some wild life experiences that a lot guys haven't had, (and they've had some I'll

    never know about, too)... and I love women....

    But, cha know what ? Most dates (Seinfeld was right when he

    called them job interviews) I go on, which isn't too often given my general attitude towards dating and ritualistic

    copulation... is.... this is so stereotyped , so predictable... ya know what I mean... just like those

    classes aspiring screenwriters go to where they learn "the secrets they don't want you to know" about how to write

    a screenplay... and you hear about the antagonist versus the protagonist, identity versus essence, the function of

    the nemesis, the seven essential qualities of the hero, structure versus anti-structure.... and what happens as a

    result of this education ? Hundreds of movies are ground out (thousands if you include indie films) that are mostly

    predictable, formulaic, structurally interchangable crap .... but profitable crap for those who play the

    game well...

    Same goes for 98% of the dating-mating-rating game... oooohhh he was a 7.5 trying to pass

    himself off as a 8.2 and she was lowballing so as not to get him on the wrong frequency, but nobody bought that

    mousy 6.8 schtick of hers...

    And, I'm there in my banquette twirling a novel concoction like a bloody mary

    made with shoyu sauce and nibbling on an oat bran breadstick feeling like a casting director thinking to himself can

    I please, pretty please see one totally unscripted, original, live wire of a self determined individual with a

    healthy balance of social grace and outrageousness ??? Does she think I don't know the intentions and questions

    lurking behind every turn of her innocent conversation ? Does she think I'm not fully aware of what she's getting

    at ? I haven't heard all of this 1000 times before ?

    Then magic strikes, true lightening... someone appears

    who radiates the unpredictable... she tells me things I neither know nor knew I didn't know... she has a wealth of

    life experience that she's gone out and earned... and she doesn't use guys with the damsel in distress act or show

    a little leg when she has no intention of following through on it... now this is more than interesting, this is

    compelling
    . I'm mentally leaning in to the conversation, I want to know more... really ? You are capable of

    taking full responsibility for you own existence ? And you still manage to have an excellent sense of humor ? You

    aren't blaming your ex-husband for the way your life turned out ? And you are continuously honing your

    life skills ?.... Yeah baby... now that's sexy You want to put on your pheromones now ? Be my guest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfs_up
    Same goes for 98%

    of the dating-mating-rating game... oooohhh he was a 7.5 trying to pass himself off as a 8.2 and she was lowballing

    so as not to get him on the wrong frequency, but nobody bought that mousy 6.8 schtick of

    hers...


    It's terrible. (Why am I laughing?)
    If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen

    Holmes' Theme Song

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    Hi Happy and Welcome to the

    forum. I would suggest copulins also. My favorite is Essence of Woman. I just bought a new bottle. I've been

    experimenting with 4 drops of EW in a 3 oz bottle of cucumber melon essential oil. It has been working really well

    for me and my husband. I've used this as a standalone and he's responded very aggessively in bed.

    We're both

    39 and he's aware that I wear mones. The EW has also worked really well on men that I work with who are 45 to 60

    years of age. I think that age group has responded well to the copulins. If you really want to get him interested

    how about 4 frops of EW and 4 of PCC.
    Countesszero

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    Hi. I have never gotten results

    with PCC....however, I've always had very good results with EW. When I first started using it, I was with a man

    who was more or less impotent....we were almost at the end of our ropes when I found -mones. Unbeknownst to him, I

    made a strong EW mix and wore it one night when we went out. It drove him totally crazy. Worked better than

    viagra!! And, btw, he was almost 50. I posted about an experience with some older gentlemen recently, also.....it

    seemed to have much the same effect on them.

    There are a couple of things to note, however, if you want to

    try the EW....don't use an alcohol based fragrance with it....it seems to intensify that "vinegar" smell. Florals

    don't work well with my body chemistry, so I use musk, vanilla, and/or amber. I like to blend all three of those,

    actually. I mix mine so strong that, in the bottle, and right after you apply it, you can still kind of smell the

    EW. After you wear it for about 5 minutes, however, the EW smell fades into a sort of fruity smell.

    Just

    experiment and have some fun with it.....and you may want to throw in some PI/w. I wouldn't suggest SOE gelpacks,

    however. They are really good for meeting new people, but everytime I have used it with someone I knew, they just

    became very happy and relaxed and fell asleep (I think it's the -rone that does that).

    Hope this helps!!

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    Hello...I don't post often, but

    thought I'd jump in. I've been using AE/w and PCC for about year now with good results. I usually use three drops

    ( sometimes four drops) of AE split between my neck, behind my ears and at my wrists. I noticed a huge

    difference when I added PCC. I usually use alot though (like four or five or more dubs of it) before I see a

    difference. I've also tried SOE/scented, but that doesn't seem to do too much for me... People are more friendly

    and that's about it. I'm a bit scared of EW, although I would like to try it sometime....it sounds like it's

    effects are...um...fun...

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    BTW,

    Try feeding him some

    Biotest Tribex or Nytrex Vitrex and you'll see some excellent libido enhancement within a couple weeks or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygirl
    Hi!

    I am in love with an older man, who is just turned 50.I have heard that men's

    testosterone counts really fall after 45, so I am hoping the couplins will work. I am in my 40's and have tried

    mones ,excite wipes (nothing happened), the beginners kit, (good results) Scent of Erros (good), but the biggest

    result was from the Scent of Erros gel pack uni sex. I am not sure what makes it different than the regular SOE, but

    his eyes got so darkened and he just stared into mine for a long time, kinda like there was a curse on him! LOL

    But I didn't see where you can order it unisex.

    Wellso I just ordered some PCC and Alter Ego. Any ideas

    on how to start with these new mones? I know he is attracted to me, but he is trying to control himself. Well I want

    to knock him over the edge! Any help would be great! Thanks!
    There is some risk but not much if

    you touch him on the shoulder a lot.Go to place with few men and more woman find out where his eyes gravitate to as

    he scopes other women and dress to accenutate that part .Is he a boobman , footman , buttman, legman ?Find out and

    dress accordingly. If you were dressing for me (which you arent) you would wear open toed strappy 2to3inch heals(aka

    bikini's for the feet) a nice pedicure a skirt that while not minny would show some leg and you would dangle your

    shoe's on and off.

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    If he has hit andropause and

    his free testosterone levels have dropped below 300, then not much is going to work well. You can't force him to

    go to the doctor, get it tested, and then use a supplement.
    However, if you can somehow get that information to

    him on a friendly basis (like when he shows some symptom of andropause you could mention it casually) and he decides

    to follow up on it a huge difference could result.

    I went from feeling normal to night sweats, fuzzy thinking,

    low drive, weak arousal, and constant mild formless anxiety over the course of about 9 months. After the problem

    was detected and I went on supplements, I went back to feeling like I was 30 again within 24 hours of starting

    supplementation. My teste level was subnormal just barely. This is something that requires a medical doctor tho.

    And it requires insurance or a tolerance for shots.

    Many men do not drop to subnormal levels but over 50% do

    eventually. From *my* perspective, I was wondering what the hell was wrong with me that my arousal dropped off so

    quickly (like in the space of 3 months it went from more than daily to weekly).

    But it was an annual complete

    physical that caught it.

    Good luck on catching your man!

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    Default Happygirl what kind of man is he ?

    visualy what does he ogle at when he doesnt notice you looking ?

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