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    Hi, it's

    me again!


    In the case of the big confusion of all these secret ingredients, I figured it'd be

    just as good or even better to actually combine the two instead of trying to see which one's the better. A little

    more of everything, I think it sounds like a really good idea.

    So I have to turn to yall for help on this one.

    How do you mix these 50/50? I use a standard dropper for the NPA and the big question is how many sprays of Impi do

    I have to add for every drop of NPA?

    Many many thanks yall!





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    If

    it was me, I'd just unscrew the top from the Impi bottle and taking another dropper to avoid cross contamination,

    draw the Impi out into the dropper and put it into a mixing bottle with an equal amount of NPA drops.

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    I persume you're trying to

    create Power Impi? The bottle itself is pretty cool. ~25ml w sprayhead is ideal for mixes.

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    Sounds like a great idea

    Intn.PB! I'll definately use this method to mix, but still the question remains on how to get the ratios 50/50.

    One drop of Impi sure won't equal the amount of -none with one drop of NPA.

    Icehawk, I didn't consider

    the Impi-bottle to be able to open so it's a good suggestion for a mixing purpose. However mixing none with other

    stuff than more none will make the whole mix go bad after a while. Maybe I'll use the bottle for some other

    purpose, so thx for the tip!

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    Gfunk,

    Mixing the

    secret ingredients of Impi with the secret ingredients of NPA will not produce a new synergism of secret

    ingredients. This is because Impi contains everything that NPA does, but in different ratioes, plus a couple more

    ingredients that NPA does not. NPA, TE, and Impi are all made by LaCroy




    NPA = .480 mg/ml total mones
    =.240

    mg/ml eNone + .240 mg/ml UI (Unspecified Ingredient)




    If the concentration of eNone and UI in Impi are equal, as they are in both NPA,

    and TE, then my guess is the second version of

    Impi = .292 mg/ml total

    mones

    = .083 mg/ml eNone + .083 mg/ml UI + .042 mg/ml “ETS-11” + .083

    mg/ml AHA (African Herbal Aphrodisiac)




    Combining one ml of NPA with one ml of Impi would yield two ml of mix each

    having =

    .162 mg/ml eNone + .162 mg/ml UI + .021 mg/ml “ETS-11” + .042 mg/ml

    AHA


    Putting these formulae together in rows

    reveals that the mix would be somewhere between the two. That is the mix would lose some of the complexity of Impi,

    and gain some of the starkness of NPA

    NPA = .480 total = .240 eNone + .240

    UI

    Mix = .386 total = .162 eNone + .162 UI + .021 “ETS-11” + .042

    AHA

    Impi = .292 total = .083 eNone + .083 UI + .042 “ETS-11” + .083

    AHA


    This is not to say that the mix would be

    a bad idea, but I would rather use two sprays of Impi and get a lot more of the extra “ETS-11” and AHA that are in

    Impi.


    I personally like mixing scented SoE

    and Impi to get a synergism of mones going. The SoE adds some Rone, and lots of Nol that aren’t in LaCroy products,

    as well as helping with the smell of Impi.


    I

    put this on before heading over to the gym for a good workout. I apply the SoE around the mouth, and extra under the

    nose, then spray the Impi onto my mouth and nose right over the SoE.




    It has definitely gotten the attention of one of the female instructors there,

    and the chattiness from the SoE hasn’t hurt a bit with any of the other people working out.

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    Wow Shenandoa!



    Thank you so much for this very informative reply to my question. I wasn't aware that Impi contained

    the same UI as NPA, so this clears up things quite well for me.

    What seems to have been a really successful combo

    for me is three drops of NPA, and what I'd be most interested in is to maintain that amount of none and then also

    get the ETS. Another thing is that I reckon the Impi AHA would eliminate the piss smell, yet if I wear it with drops

    rather than spray I can better control the undesired scent of Impi by covering with A314 and Pheros, oud or

    cologne.

    So with this in mind what would you reckon to be the equal amount of drops with Impi to three drops of

    NPA? I figure that a mix of 6 drops of Impi + 5 drops of NPA would serve this purpose the most exactly. Or

    relatively 12/11 drops even more precise.

    Heck if I knew the amount of drops of Impi that would equal three drops

    of NPA I might just skip the NPA alltogether and try Impi instead.

    Many thanks for you reply!


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    My experience with IMPI is

    reactions are akin to an ultra mellow TE or NPA. I find it takes a hoe lotta IMPI to match the reactions I get with

    a modest dose of NPA.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Gegogi,

    Agree. My guess

    as to the contents of Impi shows that NPA has three times as much eNone, and UI as Impi.

    Gfunk,

    Agree. If

    you want the ETS-11, along with the eNone, and original UI, I'd use straight Impi, but as noted above it will take

    more Impi.

    My guess that the eNone, and UI are equal in Impi is just that = a guess. However, it seems pretty

    reasonable given that both TE, and NPA have equal concentrations of eNone, and UI, however NPA is 4.8 times as

    concentrated as TE.

    I figure a good starting place for mixes would be with twice as much Impi as NPA, in any of

    your standard formulae, and then adjusting up, or down from there.

    Even though my guess would indicate using

    three times as much Impi, I like to start things with a margin of safety.

    I once tried two drops of A314, two

    dabs of WAGG, and three sprays of Impi with good results.

    Good luck with your trials

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    Gfunk,

    Sorry for not

    answering your question directly in the earlier post. I typed it in a hurry before getting out of the office into

    the field.

    9 drops of Impi will have just slightly more eNone & UI as 3 drops of NPA (about 4% more).

    8

    drops of Impi will have somewhat less eNone & UI as 3 drops of NPA (about 8% less).

    So it looks like there is

    plenty of room for experimentation. I'd suggest trying anywhere from 6 to 12 drops of Impi.

    It coccurs to me

    that you could try for a week using 3 drops NPA, and follow that week with 9 drops of Impi, (unless that seems to

    OD). That should sort out any benefit from the ETS-11 & AHA. then start up or down from there with drops of Impi.



    I'd love to here of your results. Please keep us posted.

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    Nice going Shenandoa, so if

    I would mix it instead of wearing just 9 drops of Impi the calculation would look something like this:

    9 drops

    Impi closely measuring 3 drops of NPA resulting in a double dose, and therefore divided by 2 to get a mix with the

    same -none ratio means 6 drops total of the mixed solution. If right it'd be a good starting point.

    Mind

    you, I'm not taking margins of safety because I play it unsafe Besides if it's too much I'll just find

    a nearby sink and wash some off.

    Gegogi, did you wear Impi with this none ratio in mind? Or did

    you actually use much lower -none concentration with it than you usually achieve when wearing NPA? If you did it

    would be a good thing to try to match it to be able to compare the two products and their effects. Maybe the

    mellowness you mention was only due to less amount of -none?


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    I wasn't attempting to

    measurebate, match or compare. I merely used a bottle of original IMPI and found reactions similar to a low dose of

    NPA or TE. Personally I wouldn't buy IMPI again as it costs more than TE and isn't nearly as effective. Plus it

    kinda stinks like a new age hippie store. SOE/TE or SOE/NPA is a better combo for me.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Gfunk, I was

    wondering how your mix was turning out for you,


    Gegogi, your comment on

    cost got me to calculating.


    We know that one bottle of NPA has 2.4 total

    mg of eNone + Unspecified Ingredient (UI), and sells for $29.95


    My

    guesstimate is that one bottle of Impi has about 4 mg total eNone + UI in it




    So 2.4 is to 4.0 as $29.95 is to “x” OR 2.4 x = $119.80, and x =

    $49.92


    That means at standard prices LaCroy and Love Scent are “selling”

    both the ETS-11, and African Herbal Aphrodisiac (AHA) for an additional 3 cents.




    But it gets better. Right now Impi is $39.95 per bottle, which is a 20% discount without any

    coupons.


    Way to go Bruce!!!



    Gfunk, My recommendation is to forget about the mixes.



    Any mix dilutes the effects of the ETS-11 & AHA.



    Just use 3 times as much Impi as you would NPA. That would be the best way to get a handle on

    what the effects are that the ETS-11, and AHA add to NPA for you.


    Just be

    ready to wash, and back off to a lesser amount.


    As I like to play it a

    little safer, I’ve started using Impi as though it were a somewhat stronger version of TE for my applications. I

    haven’t built up enough data to verify this, or not


    As what you are really

    buying is the pheromones, and not the volume of liquid, while Impi is on “Special”, it is actually cheaper than NPA

    for the same amount of eNone.


    And if you don’t mind smelling like a hippy,

    you can save the price of a cover scent.

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    Thanks for your nice reply's and

    interest Shen!

    I did a small mix of three 1 drop NPA/3 drop Impi ratio, and tried it on four seperate occasions.



    My conclusion was that it was a total miss. All the great responses I get from the NPA in the supposedly same

    -none amount was drastically decreased. I guess I'll try wearing 3 times as much Impi instead at some point since I

    now have the bottle, but I vote for a new name for Impi: WIMPY!!!

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    Gfunk,

    Maybe, and maybe not.



    Some people OD on two sprays of TE.

    If my

    calculations are correct, one spray of Impi has the same total eNone, and Unspecified Ingredient amount as one and

    two-thirds sprays of TE. Which means some people might OD on one spray of Impi.




    Then there is the ETS-11, and African Herbal Aphrodisiac on top of that. If AHA is counted as a

    pheromone, then the total mone content of Impi #2 is 2.9 times as much as TE.




    While that is not as concentrated as NPA, being a different mixture, it might have a

    synergistic effect that has more total impact – maybe.


    I owe the Impi Beta

    Test thread, and Bruce some feed back that just might indicate that one spray of Impi#1 is an OD level for at least

    one of the young women in my office, at least in some points of her cycle.




    Anyway, I’ve had some interesting observations from one spray of Impi#1, and now one spray of

    Impi#2 by them selves, which belong over in that other thread.


    Maybe for

    some people Impi should be cut to half strength with some ethyl alcohol before being sprayed

    on.


    Anyway, when you get around to straight Impi, I’d like to hear your

    results.

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    I can wear lots of NPA and TE and

    get great results. Six drops of NPA and women tremble and fall in my lap. 10-20 drops and they beg to bare my

    children. However FunkMaster is correct as IMPI is WIMPY. No matter how little or much I wore it didn't do jack. It

    merely made me smell like a dad burn new age hippie.

    For me, adding NPA helped but I figure why polish a

    turd...
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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