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    Hey

    guys. major newbie here.

    Here are my stats

    17 yrs old. Going to be 18 in april.
    5'8 Korean 165 lbs


    Athletic Body. (Although slightly soft now. Haven't worked out in a while, been planning to again)

    Fairly

    good looking. Style is like an athletic metrosexual type thing. DOn't know if that's possible. I adore sports.

    But when i dress, i dress in like hilfiger, armani, and name-brand companies. I don't dress like a hoodlum.

    Always do my hair.




    K. Well, i bought the beginner's pack and a bottle of C7. This is my 1 week

    diagnosis.

    1st Day- 3 sprays of C7. No response
    2nd day- 2 sprays C7. 2 sprays TE. No response
    3rd day- 2

    sprays TE, half gel pack of SOE. No response
    4th day- 1 spray Chikara, 2 spray TE, Perception. No response
    5th

    day- 1 pack of Perception, 1 spray of TE. no response
    6th day- 3 sprays of TE. No response
    7th day- 1/2 pack of

    Perception, 1.5 spray of C7. No response


    Alright, i tried a bunch of different combos. I take a shower

    everyday, so i know it can't be an OD problem from 'Mones buildup.

    I know people say that 'Mones aren't sex

    in a bottle, and i wasn't expecting sex in a bottle. But i was expecting something at least. I just went out and

    spent nearly a 100 on 'Mones, i want some response.
    I'm not a butt-ugly dude, either. I'm fairly good

    looking with good style. I am not too shy.


    By NO RESPONSE, i meant no more interacting than usual. i don't

    actually mean that girls went around ignoring me. Just that, the girls aren't acting any differnetly. And i read

    that FAQ on what a "hit" is. And no, i did not find any hits at all.


    Help???



    edit: Plus, Chikara

    smells like cat piss. Yuck, how do you guys wear it??

    I covered all my "Mones with my cologne. I alternate

    between Aqua di Gio, Dolce and gabbana, and Dreamer by Versace.

    But if i sniff a little close, i can still

    smell the cat piss-like stench of Chikara.

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    New forum posters seem to show up

    with the same problem time and time again: "I tried mixing ___ with ___ and ___" and saw no results." The problem

    is pheromone use is a very delicate process, and that arbitrarily trying mixes is probably the most inefficient

    route to go in the long run.

    Long story made short, the absolute best way to build good mixes for yourself, is

    to build a good understanding how each product works individually, and what your own pheromone signiature is like.

    That being said, the its best to try each product INDIVIDUALLY for awhile to get a good idea of what the product

    does for you, and then start mixing. Start with one spray of Chikara, and slowly move up until you find a sweet

    spot with it. Same with all the others. I'm not gonna lie, it can get pretty tedious, but until you gain that

    knowledge of how your body reacts to different mones, everything you throw on will be a shot in the dark

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    I don't know I think there

    is no way to have no response. I used to get hook ups and differnet vibes from people on APC. Just be more in tune

    and slow down everything you do.
    I was having nervous breakdowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebirthofham
    17 yrs

    old. Going to be 18 in april.
    5'8 Korean 165 lbs
    Athletic Body. (Although slightly soft now. Haven't worked

    out in a while, been planning to again)
    Where do you live? Whats the weather?
    Are Korean broads like

    Jap women when it comes to pheros and B.O.? Cold weather + clothing dosent help

    either.
    Quote Originally Posted by rebirthofham
    Alright, i tried a bunch of different combos. I take a shower everyday, so i know it

    can't be an OD problem from 'Mones buildup.
    Maybe thats the problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by rebirthofham
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    Plus, Chikara smells like cat piss. Yuck, how do you guys wear it??

    I covered all my "Mones with my cologne. I

    alternate between Aqua di Gio, Dolce and gabbana, and Dreamer by Versace.

    But if i sniff a little close, i can

    still smell the cat piss-like stench of Chikara.
    Maybe you stink way too much with all that on?
    Try

    ODing, try under dosing, try buildup. Push it till you get what you want...

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    Compared to most Black and White

    women, most Korean women are very senstive to BO and are extremely particular about personal hygiene. I'd say you

    should tread lightly on 'none products until you know them well.
    Are Korean broads like Jap women when it

    comes to pheros and B.O.?
    Incidentally, if you called a Japanese-American the J-word, at least in Hawaii,

    you'd probably offend them, maybe get punched out. Guk (Korean) and Chink (Chinese) are fightin' words as well.

    I'm a Korean living in a 50% Asian state (Hawaii).
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Question

    Calling someone who they are

    gets them offended?

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    "Jap" is considered a derogatory

    word to japanese people. Not so bad as using the "N" word, but its pretty high up there to them. I didn't know it

    myself until I made the mistake of calling a girl a jap back in high school.

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    Well actually in Toronto, JAP

    means Jewish American Princess. Its a term for spoiled suburb kids of jewish ancestry.
    As for calling a Japanese

    person a Jap? Dont they call Canadians, Canuc's? To each his own I guess, although this whole thing is kinda off

    topic already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo_91
    I don't

    know I think there is no way to have no response. I used to get hook ups and differnet vibes from people on APC.

    Just be more in tune and slow down everything you do.

    What do you mean slow everything

    down?? Can you explain?


    And what's up with all the korean woman questions and asian women questions. Never

    stated i was targeting korean or asian women.

    I live in NJ. at the moment is pretty cold. I read on a FAQ that

    if u wear a lot of clothes, its better to spray on top of clothes, so that's what i did.

    And please lets keep

    this discussion on topic??? I mean, its interesting and all knowing whether or not japanese women get offended

    being called JAP, but still, that doesn't help a lot. hehe.

    And These past 4 days i've taken Sigma's advice

    and tried finding that "sweet spot" with chikara. Since he said test each pheromone individually. So i started off

    with a spray of chikara. Nothing happened. I then applied two. nothing. Three. nothing. Applied a hint of a

    spray on the fourth day, nothing happened again.

    So does this mean that Chikara isn't for me?? Since i've

    tried from using 3 sprays, to about half a spray and nothing happened.

    On a side note, SOE smells freaking good

    man. When combined with Dolce and Gabbana, dude, it smells freaking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebirthofham
    Hey

    guys. major newbie here.

    Here are my stats

    17 yrs old. Going to be 18 in april.
    5'8 Korean 165 lbs


    Athletic Body. (Although slightly soft now. Haven't worked out in a while, been planning to again)
    K. Well, i

    bought the beginner's pack and a bottle of C7. This is my 1 week diagnosis.

    1st Day- 3 sprays of C7. No

    response
    2nd day- 2 sprays C7. 2 sprays TE. No response
    3rd day- 2 sprays TE, half gel pack of SOE. No

    response
    4th day- 1 spray Chikara, 2 spray TE, Perception. No response
    5th day- 1 pack of Perception, 1 spray of

    TE. no response
    6th day- 3 sprays of TE. No response
    7th day- 1/2 pack of Perception, 1.5 spray of C7. No

    response

    .
    What the!!!???



    Did this

    newbie get all that info on mixes from here ... Newbies

    please Click Here! + Best Threads
    ?

    You've conquered the whole mone world in 7 days.

    Oh my! And you've gotten no responses.
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    What the!!!???



    Did this

    newbie get all that info on mixes from here ... Newbies

    please Click Here! + Best Threads
    ?

    You've conquered the whole mone world in 7 days.

    Oh my! And you've gotten no responses.



    ......................uh.....

    ha-ha???

    Was that supposed to be sarcasm? Funny....

    Considering the links on that thread don't even

    work.....what exactly are you trying to say? Attempting sarcasm online isn't too effective so lets save that for

    live conversations.

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    Relax he was just trying to

    help. Its just that people who don't have much experiance with mones often have trouble getting started because

    there are so many things that can affect the reactions you get. The first time i wore te my girlfriend was convinced

    there was somebody else in the house instead of accepting that it was me who was the source. In other cases ive

    witnessed my friends who are with their girlfriends getting the hits instead of me because they assume they are the

    source. It would also help if you told us where you applied the pheromones since 1 spray of te might not do any good

    if it was covered up by clothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebirthofham
    ......................uh..... ha-ha???

    Was that supposed to be sarcasm? Funny....



    Considering the links on that thread don't even work.....what exactly are you trying to say? Attempting sarcasm

    online isn't too effective so lets save that for live conversations.
    All Mobely was trying to point out

    is that you haven't really done anything yet to get reactions from mones. You have no idea what you are doing other

    than just pouring some magic liquid on and expecting women to pop out of the wood work. It isn't going to happen.



    My suggestion is you start over. Test one product at a time in a methodical manner until you learn what does work

    for you. The way you are going about it you may or may not ever find a mix that works for you.

    Another

    suggestion is to lighten up your tone on the forum. You'll get far better results by asking politely than the

    current attitude.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth
    All Mobely

    was trying to point out is that you haven't really done anything yet to get reactions from mones. You have no idea

    what you are doing other than just pouring some magic liquid on and expecting women to pop out of the wood work. It

    isn't going to happen.

    My suggestion is you start over. Test one product at a time in a methodical manner until

    you learn what does work for you. The way you are going about it you may or may not ever find a mix that works for

    you.

    Another suggestion is to lighten up your tone on the forum. You'll get far better results by asking

    politely than the current attitude.


    Last time i checked, my tone was pretty polite in my first and

    second post. Also, if you read my second post, it does state what i did after taking Sigma's suggestion. I did

    start over and tested one product in a methodical manner. And no, i did not expect to pour on some "magic liquid"

    and expect woman to pop onto me. My tone only got testy in my 3rd post when he gave me a broken link with a

    sarcastic message. If you read my first post, it clearly states that i did not expect "sex in a bottle". I just

    expected some type of reaction at all that was different from the norm.

    So, I don't really get what you're

    post was trying to tell me. I'm not trying to be snotty or anything right now, but i'm just asking you to clarify

    what you're trying to tell me. You said that I have no idea what i'm doing, and i'm expecting woman to pop out

    of the wood work. If you read my posts, you would realize that isn't the case.

    Than you state that I should

    start over. My second post clearly states that i did start over after taking advice from one of your forum members

    who helped a newbie out without attitude.

    Thirdly, you said to lighten up. Dude, i was acting pretty chill up

    until the point where Mobley decided to come in and left a sarcastic message with no helpful links, advice, or

    experiences. And all i said was, haha?? Leave your sarcasm to others who appreciate it. That's all i said.



    So......what exactly do you want me to do??

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    I'm not going to re-write it

    again since I and others have done it numerous times. A little study of the forum will locate samples of methods to

    use. Had you studied the forum you'd possibly have run across the reason those links are broken, why they haven't

    been fixed and suggestions on search methods using the titles from those links.

    You are trying to mix and have

    no idea what any single product does for you in particular. Look at the list of product combos you posted. Go back

    and check the ingredients list in the reference library. In several cases you are applying one pheromone on top of

    exactly the same pheromone. Why are you doing that? Is there a reason? Do you know what your optimum level is for

    any single pheromone?

    According to your post, you applied various combos for one day at a time and list no

    results. How can you expect results that way? Start with a product, any product. Approach it methodcally and

    determine if it works for you and how much it takes to get an effect.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebirthofham
    Thirdly, you said to lighten up. Dude, i was acting pretty chill up until the point where

    Mobley decided to come in and left a sarcastic message with no helpful links, advice, or experiences. And all i said

    was, haha?? Leave your sarcasm to others who appreciate it. That's all i said.
    Geez! I'm always

    starting something! <mobley>

    Rebirth, like me and so many others that come here, you obviously haven't

    read too many threads, and if you did, you never cross the many of threads that said what Bel always say to those in

    such a hurry to conquer the world that they continue to ask the same questions millions have asked ending with "I

    got no response." I found out, and so will you, if you hang around long enough that for some it takes time and game.

    Some have gone on without any reactions, and even some of those have come back.

    You're just gonna have to grit

    your teeth and try everything you've already tried in weekly sessions vice day sessions. Sorry you didn't get my

    true meaning, which was SLOW DOWN LITTLE FELLA. If you're entitled, tomorrow will come for you, and you will have

    another opportunity to try on your new toys/stuff.

    No sarcasm intended.

    Good luck ... mones or no

    mones.

    P.S. IF your attitude sucks, so will you with mones.
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Important point of note: You

    need to use each iteration of your dosage for a product in several situations that allow for reactions.

    What

    some newbies tend to do is try each dosage out for just one day. In that day they might have been in proximity with

    maybe 3 women who they really wanted to see reactions from, but didn't. This then leads to the belief that the

    product or dose didn't work, which is typical of the erroneous logic that people who have just started out have.



    p.s I have placed the currently accurate version of the links underneath the broken ones in the Newbie Thread.
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    CptKipling has probably the

    most knowledge of mones on the board, so I would advise making friends, not foes, with him.

    Anyway, do this

    first. Take some SOE, and spray/slide some gel on each inside forearm, an 8 inch strip on each arm. SOE is a great

    convo opener and using it alone, you will see that girls will open up the convo with you. Remember, it can take

    10-15 mins for the mones to work, but in my experience it has been 5 mins. You need a situation where you can sit

    next to the girl, class is best.

    Common openers I've gotten are "So, is this your first class" and then I get

    the "I'm checkin you out look" kinda deal from them.

    Let's see how "pretty chill" you are with this one.

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    Thanks M4H, but there are

    plenty of knowledgeable people on the forum. This thread is a fine example of the good spirit that should be shown

    to newbies, but it is also typical of what can happen with communication in written form over the internet - i.e.

    misunderstandings. (seriously Rebirth, everyone wishes you success).

    I appreciate the compliment though
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