Pheromones for shorter guys

[alanrudy]

Hello,
I've read a couple different posts that have suggested more none for short people. I know so much is

based on the person, product, etc. but is there a general rule that shorter people should use more none? I'm 5'7"

(barely, lol), 25 y/o. If you're near my height please let me know if you agree/disagree and what you find

effective. Have a great day.

[Australias Hitch]

Mate im 5'10 and I use

Chikara (two sprays).

Just go after shorter chicks dude,

[belgareth]

I'm 5' 8". Height makes

little difference unless you are so big as to be intimidating. Get the free samples and try it out to see what works

for you personally.

[alanrudy]

5'10" is way different from

barely 5'7" lol. Bel, so your saying that in general, there isn't a specific mone shorter people should use more

of?

[Gegogi]

Sheesh, I'm the same height as

Belgareth! At 5' 8" I've never considered myself short but I mainly live among other Asians. LOL Asian women often

consider me tall! Like Belgareth said, you just have to experiment to find the best combo for your persona and body

chemistry. SOE is a good place to start for most guys.

[DrSmellThis]

a314, which is mainly -rone,

might help enhance one's "stature."

[belgareth]

I don't consider myself short

either. Never really even thought about it or worried if a woman was taller than me. It's never affected me in any

way that I've noticed so I don't worry about it. It could be that my tastes run to small petite women though.



In another thread somebody commented that studies show women prefer men taller than them. Other studies show that

taller men are thought to be more successful. Those are generalizations. My younger brother looks enough like me

that friends have mistaken us for one another in the past, until we stand up. He's about 6' 1". Over the years

I've had more and better looking lovers and am more successful in business. That's because of attitudes, we see

and respond to the world differently. Even as children the differences in how the world responded to our attitudes

was obvious and only became more pronounced over the years. There are a lot of fun stories about that.

In other

words, height may be a small part of the whole thing, same with mones or your haircut or your clothes. The whole

package is what's going to make you a winner, don't focus on height as a big issue.

[Mick]

I don't consider

myself short either. Never really even thought about it or worried if a woman was taller than me. It's never

affected me in any way that I've noticed so I don't worry about it. It could be that my tastes run to small petite

women though.

In another thread somebody commented that studies show women prefer men taller than

them. Other studies show that taller men are thought to be more successful. Those are generalizations. My

younger brother looks enough like me that friends have mistaken us for one another in the past, until we stand up.

He's about 6' 1". Over the years I've had more and better looking lovers and am more successful in business.

That's because of attitudes, we see and respond to the world differently. Even as children the differences in how

the world responded to our attitudes was obvious and only became more pronounced over the years. There are a lot of

fun stories about that.

In other words, height may be a small part of the whole thing, same with mones or your

haircut or your clothes. The whole package is what's going to make you a winner, don't focus on height as a big

issue.

i'm 5'2 1/2 & still waiting on that 1 woman I can meet eye to eye with only problem is the

circus hasnt been my way in a long while

[belgareth]

i'm 5'2 1/2 &

still waiting on that 1 woman I can meet eye to eye with only problem is the circus hasnt been my way in a long

while

My wife claims she's 5' tall but I think she's exagerating by about half an inch. Her

younger sister, a lovely young woman, is just a hair shorter. I think average for women is about 5' 5". As you go

either direction from that they get fewer and further between. That doesn't mean they aren't out there, you just

have to look for them.

[a.k.a.]

i'm 5'2 1/2

That makes you 1/2 inch taller than Prince. And he used to make girls cream their panties just by

looking in their general vicinity.

[alanrudy]

Hey Everyone, thanks for

responses.
Bel,

I don't think there is a particular mone for shorter people.

Yeah, that's

what I'm figuring out, just wanted to see what info I could get from the aspect of height. Thanks.

Honestly, I

can't argue with a lot of what you said but still feel I have my points. That's a good attitude to have for

business.
But, as for the walking or driving example,

To use your example, I'd probably walk because

it's a nice day and I enjoy the feeling of the breeze in my face.

So would I. It's also of the best

exercises you can do. But you proved my point because.....you drive, I drive, almost everyone drives 5 miles to work

and PASS on walking. That's the point I was trying to make. It's a way to save time and increase chances. I find

it hard to believe that you or other people try to talk/date to every girl you may be interested in and I think you

and most people try to talk to/date girls who we have increased chances with (height one of the factors).
Tim,
You

do have an excellent point. And it's one of the problems with some of thse studies, but the studies do provide good

information and I think that even when confidence and secure is controlled for in these studies, the results are the

same.

All this being said. You guys did help me keep into perspective the importance of attitude and other

factors. I have a feeling that no matter how important people say attitude is, it's probably 10 times as important

as that.

[MOBLEYC57]

That makes you 1/2

inch taller than Prince. And he used to make girls cream their panties just by looking in their general

vicinity.

Money and fame has always made panties damp!

[Mick]

Money and fame has

always made panties damp!

I dont have either maybe the priesthood?

[Holmes]

Money and fame

has always made panties damp!

So have talent, energy, and confidence.

[a.k.a.]

Hah! I’m also 5’8”. I think that’s

one reason I slip under women’s radar without pheromones.
Androstenone is surely the best way to get noticed,

but that’s not always a good thing. Especially if you wear too much and come off as intimidating. (Yes, even short

guys can appear intimidating.)
I agree with the above posts in the sense that standing out in a crowd isn’t

a necessary ingredient for improving relationships and social standing. When it comes to getting laid, I haven’t

found anything which works on as many women as SOE — and it has no None whatsoever.
But I do enjoy the attention

that None gives me. So I’d say just go with whatever suits your personality

[ant2000]

I'm 5'3" and i have dated many

women, as tall as 5'8". But i think a.k.a has a point though. Whenever i wear none i get very strong hits from

women (especially more mature women - over 25+) more than when not wearing it. You can definantly go overboard with

the none and intimidate taller women though if you wear too much of it.

[alanrudy]

Interesting stuff. It's also

pretty cool to read responses to my thread from people's whose profile I have read so many posts from. lol, I can

be a big dork sometimes.
Gegogi, yeah it's a cultural thing, based on you and who your trying to attract, I think

in US, average male height is 5'9" or 5'10".
I've had girls I've dated and even been kind of serious with for a

while that have told me that they don't like that I am short and it was kinda a big deal for them. But I'm 25 so

it may be that the girls were not mature enough to look beyond that. It is proven in studies that girls like guys

as tall as them or taller than them. Bel, it might have been one my recent posts that you read that in. I also

meant on average, but your post really makes me remember that other things are very important. Attitude plays such

a big role in so many areas of life.
I guess I pass by taller girls because they like their height or taller and

they pass on me. I guess I tend to do so for sake of saving time and increasing my chances. How many couples do

you see where the guy is shorter than the girl? I live in NYC and see a lot of people, today, I would say it was

about 1 out of 30 couples.
DrSmellThis and others, I'm a little unsure about A314, LeSillage seemed to be a promoter for AA314 and read a lot of info he/she wrote and a

lot of the pros here seem to use it but I noticed that he/she is banned. I guess I've read a couple people who

like it and have that "bond effect" but that may be something that LeSillage planted. Should I listen to banned users? Any other ideas? I'm getting the sense by the

varied answers that there isn't something that, in general, shorter people should wear. Thanks for your responses.

[belgareth]

Average height varies wherever

you go and in history. I think in the US it's about 5' 9".

You limit your chances when you pass up trying with

somebody for some arbitrary reason, not increase it. You just never know who will respond to you until you try. If

it doesn't work ou you just move on. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The most obvious couple in my experince was

my older sister and her husband. She's 5' 9" and blond, he was 5' 5" and Japanese. Did I mention that I'm the

shortest out of a large family? All my sisters were taller than me! I used to get hand me downs from my

younger brother. Forget height, it's only as important as you make it.

[SyraBrian]

Can't find them offhand, but I

do remember reading posts in which Chikara wearers claimed that wearing Chikara made women perceive them to be

taller than they actually were.

I'm 43 and only 5-8. In high school I was significantly taller than the

average female classmate. However, it does seem that younger women are significantly taller these days.

On

American Idol, the height of the young female singers seems to really annoy Ryan Seacrest!

[Gegogi]

i'm 5'2 1/2 & still

waiting on that 1 woman I can meet eye to eye with only problem is the circus hasnt been my way in a long

while

On Oahu it's challenging to find a woman over 5' 2". The Filipinas are often much shorter. 4'

10" is pretty standard n Waipahu. At 5' 8" I tower over about 75% of my students and can see across large crowds.

[DCW]

I didn't realise how short I was

until I moved TX.
Boy am I short 5 8'.


DCW

[Mtnjim]

However, it does

seem that younger women are significantly taller these days.

It's the hormones they put into food these

days. They make the steers grow faster and give girls boobs at 9.

[Gegogi]

...there are exceptions to

every rule. But how many couples do you see where the guy is shorter than the girl? I've not only experienced this,

it's proven in studies. You can see this for yourself if you don't believe this if you take notice and count on an

average day.

Here in Honolulu, I see couples all the time where the guy is shorter. There is a shortage

(sorry) of tall guys so women make-do.

[tim929]

As a short guy,I feel

particularly well suited to step up and comment on this.(Im 5'6")Short guys are just gonna have trouble with

women.In a world of taller men,us short guys just have to be better at playing the game than the rest.Over time,I

learned that much of the percieved disadvantage of being short can be overcome with personality,wit,charm and a good

dose of humor.Add alittle boldness and a willingness to fall on your face a few times and you should be able to cope

just fine.Yes,you have to work harder than other men...but that doesnt mean you cant be successful.



Statisticly,short guys have less success with women than tall guys...but is that a result of being short or a

result of how we see ourselves? I am largely of the oppinion that its all about self perception.If your confident

and secure and have a good grip on scocial interactions,you will be okay.But be careful not to

over-compensate.Napoleon did that and plunged Europe into war...Seriously.And in addition to having overcompensated

myself,I have seen other short guys do that and its realy pathetic...Being confident and secure is the key.

[belgareth]

Your right in a respect and do

have some good points. Since I'm married I'm not hitting on anybody but, when I was in that position, I didn't

select anybody to talk to. Instead, I talked to everybody and watched for signs of interest.

Perhaps the social

environment is different because I am working from a position as a professional and am never in bars or clubs. All

my interactions were either related to my work or my social activities outside of pick up spots. So, in a social

environment I walk instead of drive because it gives me more opportunities to see and interact with more people.

Then I smile, laugh and have fun with everybody. If I saw signs of interest I could pursue it if I decided too. It

changes the dynamics quite a lot.

[a.k.a.]

Sure. But he got rich and famous by

singing about sex and doing nasty things onstage.
I've read that his act was verry popular from the

outset.

Anyway. I think short guys can get away with being more sexual, because we're less threatening.

[Mick]

Sure. But he got rich

and famous by singing about sex and doing nasty things onstage.
I've read that his act was verry popular from the

outset.

Anyway. I think short guys can get away with being more sexual, because we're less

threatening.

True! I make a pass @ this one woman every chance I get the more I

do it the more she refuses but she seems to like my advances the funny thing is i've seen other guys do the same &

got a far more negative response

[alanrudy]

Perhaps the social

environment is different because I am working from a position as a professional and am never in bars or

clubs

Yes, I agree. We seem to have come to some kind of medium and I definitely benefitted from yours

and others' responses. Thank you.

There are advantages to being short.

Yes. And if

you have other small features (ears, fingers, etc), you can use the classic:
"God said I could only have one big

body part...".

Works best in situations where another guy is saying this and killing your game in

front of girls.

[blkgost]

and I've come to

realize that women like the taller/bigger men, mainly because they are seen as stronger and better protectors.

Therefore if a woman is short she will want a taller/bigger man since they provide a better security

blanket.

From a woman's/man's perspective smaller things really don't deserve much respect or time (think

children and small animals), so a shorter man is lost in the shuffle. I've learned to overcome this is to carry

the D.I.L.L.I.G.A.D (Does It Look Like I Give A Damn) attitude toward people and their egos, in men it gains

respect, in women I get the "I can't believe he has the audacity NOT to kiss my a*s" (which later leads to the

"He's intriguing, I wonder what he's all about"). Also having an air of confidence and the appearance of control

(self & situational). And -NONE

[MOBLEYC57]

and I've come to realize that women like the taller/bigger men, mainly because they are seen as

stronger and better protectors. Therefore if a woman is short she will want a taller/bigger man since they provide a

better security blanket.

From a woman's/man's perspective smaller things really don't deserve much respect or

time (think children and small animals), so a shorter man is lost in the shuffle. I've learned to overcome this is

to carry the D.I.L.L.I.G.A.D (Does It Look Like I Give A Damn) attitude toward people and their egos, in men it

gains respect, in women I get the "I can't believe he has the audacity NOT to kiss my a*s" (which later leads to

the "He's intriguing, I wonder what he's all about"). Also having an air of confidence and the appearance of

control (self & situational). And -NONE

Talking about a GHOST from the past!!! How's it hanging, BG?

Any new inventions, or have you been sticking with the old mones?

As for the what someone

vertically challenged can get away with and why ... I wouldn't know.